Are you sick of highly paid teachers?

[oberliner]

The following was forwarded to me via email:

Teachers' hefty salaries are driving up taxes, and they only work 9 or 10 months a year! It's time we put things in perspective and pay them for what they do - babysit!

We can get that for less than minimum wage.

That's right. Let's give them $3.00 an hour and only the hours they worked; not any of that silly planning time, or any time they spend before or after school. That would be $19.50 a day (7:45 to 3:00 PM with 45 min. off for lunch and plan-- that equals 6 1/2 hours).

Each parent should pay $19.50 a day for these teachers to baby-sit their children. Now how many students do they teach in a day...maybe 30? So that's $19.50 x 30 = $585.00 a day.

However, remember they only work 180 days a year!!! I am not going to pay them for any vacations.

LET'S SEE....

That's $585 X 180 = $105,300 per year...

[truebrit71]

1. That is such a fucking stupid e-mail. They get paid by the hour AND by the kid..??.

..even their outrage has the math wrong...maybe they should have paid more attention in math class..

[Warren Stupidity]

2. wooosh!

[1monster]

6. Well, if teachers were paid by the hour and by the kid, I'd demand more for some of the

kids than others.

In my experience, if you remove two to four students from a terribly behaved class, the class becomes managable and even willing to be taught and to learn...

[truebrit71]

7. Hells bells if teachers got paid by the hour AND by the kid I'd become a teacher...

...in a heartbeat..

[jeff47]

36. The point was to compare it to daycare

Where they are paid by the kid.

[oberliner]

37. Thanks for posting that

I am surprised by the confusion.

[Mr Generic Other]

3. that would be $3.00 an hour per student.

i have 152 of them. that would be $456. dollars per day with no providing of lessons. just babysitting.
ed. by the way, that is more than i actually make trying to teach them something.

[EFerrari]

10. I think that's the idea.

Damn, I should have gone into babysitting!

lol

[LuckyLib]

13. It would actually be $3 x 6.5 (hours) x 152 students = $2964.

[Mr Generic Other]

25. i like your total,

except that i have 152 spread over five teaching hours.
each student in my room for 55 minutes.
but i am not a math teacher so i could be mis-calculating the total.

[Mr Generic Other]

26. and, i don't think that $3.00 is the going rate

for babysitting anymore. at least not in my neck of the woods.
i haven't had to hire one for years but i remember paying more than $3.00 an hour 20 years ago.

[hughee99]

4. If I ever meet one, I'll let you know. n/t

[lonestarnot]

5. Woohoo!

[oberliner]

11. That is kind of the point of the post

I thought it was quite clever.

[hughee99]

20. Yes, I got it.

and it was quite clever. :)

[ZombieHorde]

8. Awesome sucker punch. I didn't see it coming, but I should have. nt

[Populist_Prole]

9. I'm sick of overpaid yuppie assholes that create nothing but RW forwards

Highly paid paper pushing pinstriped pinhead = That's the "American Way"

Anyone that actually performs a function, paid more than minimum wage = Drain on the Economy

That's the way these Limbotics see the world.

[oberliner]

12. RW forwards? Are you kiding? Did you read the post?

It is from a very left wing teacher - do you not get the argument?

[Populist_Prole]

19. Sure. I'm referring to the originators RW forwards, not you.

Give me credit for not shooting the messenger. :hide:

I get these all the time, whether about teachers, auto-workers, public work employees.

Here's one from the archives: http://www.thereformedbroker.com/2010/04/30/a-disgusting-little-email-making-the-rounds-on-wall-street/

[Obamanaut]

14. It's hardly been mentioned at all, except for these earlier threads ->

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=439&topic_id=481475

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=439&topic_id=478426

[oberliner]

15. Good stuff!

Thanks for the links!

[Starry Messenger]

16. I hope it gets posted every 30 minutes.

:thumbsup:

[Obamanaut]

17. Why not simply kick one of them from time to time. nt

[oberliner]

18. People get intimidated by messages with lots of replies

A fresh message and some new responses!

[Obamanaut]

21. If true, how do they get so many replies? nt

[Kennah]

22. Some of us are into S&M

[Starry Messenger]

27. You mean like this?

[yourout]

23. Don't know........never seen one.

The next time I see and overpaid teacher will be the first.

[oberliner]

28. That is the point of the post

Do people read past the title?

[IndyPragmatist]

32. There are some out there, trust me....

My mother retired a few years ago and she was making 68,000/year. She would openly admit that she didn't deserve it. She remembered that she started off making 20,000/year.

The big problem here is what often kills unions. They care too much about seniority. If they really cared about the welfare of the workers, they would level things off more. However, at least in Indiana, new teachers are paid next to nothing, while senior teachers are nearing upper class salaries.

Another big problem is administrator pay. My aunt recently passed from a battle with cancer, and she spent her entire life in education also. She started off making the low salary that is common with new teachers, but became an administrator (vice-principal) and retired making over 100,000.

There has always been a tension between administrators and teachers in Indiana because of the large pay difference. This is a direct result of the teachers unions going to far. They stopped caring about the group and started rewarding loyalty.

Don't get me wrong, teachers need a union. But it is an odd situation when teachers are battling the school board over salaries and benefits, but the school board has little leverage because they can only spend what the state allocates them. I would much rather see teachers unions have a larger presence in legislature, as opposed to a presence with the school board.

[YellowRubberDuckie]

24. A friend of mine posted this on facebook today...

Cracked me up. And it's true!

[joshcryer]

29. Deceptively beautiful! I hope this got (accidentially) forwarded to birthers everywhere.

I mean, they see the "teachers are babysitters" bit and just forward it.

(Of course they might as well read the whole thing and forward it anyway because it's over their heads.)

[BlueCollar]

30. I'll let you know when I meet one....

[Tabasco_Dave]

31. Yes i am!

They are such snobs, driving around in their Rolls Royce's and Mercedes, eating caviar and drinking champagne in the teachers lounge. It's disgusting.:sarcasm:

[peopleb4money]

33. Lets just start importing teachers from Indonesia, why don't we?

We could pay them in rice and give them a cozy living quarters with a dirt floor to sleep on. Wouldn't that just be terrific? They're trying to wreck the public education system They want to take us back the turn of the last century where all the poor kids, who's parent/parents couldn't afford to send them to a private school, had to work long hours in the factories to help pay rent. Now, if they actually knew their own agenda, that's what they'd be really saying. Since this retard doesn't understand basic math, though. that's a pretty sweet deal.

[oberliner]

34. A lot of people don't seem to get the point of this post

It is meant to suggest that teachers are underpaid for all the work they do.

[Starry Messenger]

35. Oh they know.

They just don't want to hear it.