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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-10 02:43 PM
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Resist.
Since the resistance by these groups is not part of the narrative by corporate media to protect the power of the wealthy aristocracy, we do not hear about it. But the growing popular resistance is happening all around us.



Chris Hedges writes, in "Bitter Memories of War on the Way to Jail":



WASHINGTON, DC - DECEMBER 16: A Vietnam veteran is dragged away while being arrested during an anti-war protest in front of the White House December 16, 2010 in Washington, DC. The protest was organized by the group Veterans for Peace in opposition to the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. (Getty Images)


WASHINGTON, DC - DECEMBER 16: A Vietnam veteran is dragged away while being arrested during an anti-war protest in front of the White House December 16, 2010 in Washington, DC. The protest was organized by the group Veterans for Peace in opposition to the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. (Getty Images)



WASHINGTON, DC - DECEMBER 16: Zach Choate, an Army veteran from the war in Iraq, participates in an anti-war protest in front of the White House December 16, 2010 in Washington, DC. The protest was organized by the group Veterans for Peace in opposition to the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. (Getty Images)


WASHINGTON, DC - DECEMBER 16: In a heavy snowfall, Secret Service members use a saw to cut handcuffs off of a protester who had chained himself to the fence on the north side of the White House December 16, 2010 in Washington, DC. The protest was organized by the group Veterans for Peace in opposition to the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. (Getty Images)



Chris Hedges:


December 20, 2010


The speeches were over. There was a mournful harmonica rendition of taps. The 500 protesters in Lafayette Park in front of the White House fell silent. One hundred and thirty-one men and women, many of them military veterans wearing old fatigues, formed a single, silent line. Under a heavy snowfall and to the slow beat of a drum, they walked to the White House fence. They stood there until they were arrested.

.....

We reached the fence. The real prisoners, the ones who blindly serve systems of power and force, are the mandarins inside the White House, the Congress and the Pentagon. The masters of war are slaves to the idols of empire, power and greed, to the idols of careers, to the dead language of interests, national security, politics and propaganda. They kill and do not know what killing is. In the rise to power, they became smaller. Power consumes them. Once power is obtained they become its pawn. Like Shakespeare’s Richard III, politicians such as Barack Obama fall prey to the forces they thought they had harnessed. The capacity to love, to cherish and protect life, may not always triumph, but it saves us. It keeps us human. It offers the only chance to escape from the contagion of war. Perhaps it is the only antidote. There are times when remaining human is the only victory possible.

The necrophilia of war is hidden under platitudes about honor, duty or comradeship. It waits especially in moments when we seem to have little to live for and no hope, or in moments when the intoxication of war is at its pitch to be unleashed. When we spend long enough in war, it comes to us as a kind of release, a fatal and seductive embrace that can consummate the long flirtation with our own destruction. In the Arab-Israeli 1973 war, almost a third of all Israeli casualties were due to psychiatric causes—and the war lasted only a few days. A World War II study determined that, after 60 days of continuous combat, 98 percent of all surviving soldiers will have become psychiatric casualties. A common trait among the 2 percent who were able to endure sustained combat was a predisposition toward “aggressive psychopathic personalities.” In short, if you spend enough time in combat you go insane or you were insane to begin with. War starts out as the annihilation of the other. War ends, if we do not free ourselves from its grasp, in self-annihilation.

Those around me at the protest, at once haunted and maimed by war, had freed themselves of war’s contagion. They bore its scars. They were plagued by its demons. These crippling forces will always haunt them. But they had returned home. They had returned to life. They had asked for atonement. In Lafayette Park they found grace. They had recovered within themselves the capacity for reverence. They no longer sought to become gods, to wield the power of the divine, the power to take life. And it is out of this new acknowledgement of weakness, remorse for their complicity in evil and an acceptance of human imperfection that they had found wisdom. Listen to them, if you can hear them. They are our prophets.

The tears and grief, the halting asides, the catch in the throat, the sudden breaking off of a sentence, is the only language that describes war. This faltering language of pain and atonement, even shame, was carried like great, heavy boulders by these veterans as they tromped slowly through the snow from Lafayette Park to the White House fence. It was carried by them as they were handcuffed, dragged through the snow, photographed for arrest, and frog-marched into police vans. It was carried into the frigid holding cells of a Washington jail. If it was understood by the masters of war who build the big guns, who build the death planes, who build all the bombs and who hide behind walls and desks, this language would expose their masks and chasten their hollow, empty souls. This language, bereft of words, places its faith in physical acts of nonviolent resistance, in powerlessness and compassion, in truth. It believes that one day it will bring down the house of war.




The veterans are resisting.

The prisoners are resisting.

The doctors are resisting.

The teachers are resisting.

The labor unions are resisting.




All of these groups are resisting the theft of our country by the wealthy conservative aristocracy. Soon, the individual work by all of these groups and others will coalesce into one unstoppable force to end wars, to restore justice, human rights, civil rights, equality and the rule of law.

When that day arrives, because their weapons will be stripped bare, the ruthless and greedy aristocracy will be soundly defeated.




Some final thoughts from Chris Hedges in "No Act of Rebellion Is Wasted":


.....

We, like those who opposed the long night of communism, no longer have any mechanisms within the formal structures of power that will protect or advance our rights. We too have undergone a coup d’état carried out not by the stone-faced leaders of a monolithic Communist Party, but by the corporate state.

.....

We may feel, in the face of the ruthless corporate destruction of our nation, our culture, and our ecosystem, powerless and weak. But we are not. We have a power that terrifies the corporate state. Any act of rebellion, no matter how few people show up or how heavily it is censored by a media that caters to the needs and profits of corporations, chips away at corporate power. Any act of rebellion keeps alive the embers for larger movements that follow us. It passes on another narrative. It will, as the rot of the state consumes itself, attract wider and wider numbers. Perhaps this will not happen in our lifetimes. But if we persist, we will keep this possibility alive. If we do not, it will die.

All energy directed toward reforming political and state structures is useless. All efforts to push through a “progressive” agenda within the corridors of power are naïve. Trust in the reformation of our corporate state reflects a failure to recognize that those who govern, including Barack Obama, are as deaf to public demands and suffering as those in the old Communist regimes. We cannot rely on any systems of power, including the pillars of the liberal establishment—the press, liberal religious institutions, universities, labor, culture and the Democratic Party. They have been weakened to the point of anemia or work directly for the corporations that dominate our existence. We can rely now on only ourselves, on each other.

.....

(RE December 16, 2010 anti-war protest at the White House) Join dozens of military veterans, myself, Daniel Ellsberg, Medea Benjamin, Ray McGovern, Dr. Margaret Flowers and many others who will make visible a hope the corporate state does not want you to see, hear or participate in. Don’t be discouraged if it is not a large crowd. Don’t let your friends or colleagues talk you into believing it is useless. Don’t be seduced by the sophisticated public relations campaigns disseminated by the mass media, the state or the Democratic Party. Don’t, if you decide to carry out civil disobedience, be cowed by the police. Hope and justice live when people, even in tiny numbers, stand up and fight for them.

.....




RESIST.






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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-10 03:59 PM
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1. fnaknr.
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-10 03:59 PM
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2. fnaknr.
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jotsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-10 04:12 PM
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3. Recommended.
Went looking for a video post by E. Ferrari I think, showed protests all over the world. Hopefully he sees this and has better luck tracking it down.

The same day as the White House event, 35 in California were arrested at Chase bank.

Daniel Ellsberg was on the news everywhere as the Wikileaks cables started breaking. How does a credible MSM have his expert opinion on one week and ignore him being arrested the next? Elites seem off their game. One can only hope.

Thanks for posting seafan.
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 06:59 AM
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29. Just FYO
E. Ferrari is a she.
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jotsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 11:01 AM
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48. Oops.
Please extend my apologies for not being more attentive to profile info. :blush:
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-10 02:37 PM
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55. I'm sure it's not a thing. She's an enlightened soul,
and she would likely not be fazed by it. I just thought I'd let you know.
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 08:58 AM
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37. Also: UAW Joins Clergy And Farm Worker Activists Picketing 100 Chase Bank Branches
December 10, 2010


Thanks for the reminder about the California protest at Chase, jotsy.


Resistance is breaking out everywhere.


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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-10 04:21 PM
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4. Always... KnR n/t
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-10 04:25 PM
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5. K&R
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-10 04:26 PM
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6. K&R
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-10 04:27 PM
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7. Thanks to the Vets -- thanks to Chris Hedges -- K/R
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-10 04:29 PM
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8. We do not consent to imperialism. nt
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felix_numinous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-10 04:56 PM
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9. K&R!!
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-10 05:05 PM
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10. Kicked and recommended.
Thanks for the thread, seafan.
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 09:02 AM
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38. You're welcome, Uncle Joe. We're all going to nail these ba$%*#$. n/t
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-10 05:18 PM
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11. Like OUR Constitution states-All power to the people--K&Resist n/t
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Capitalocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-10 07:45 PM
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12. My Facebook profile pic:


The image is from a science fiction graphic novel from Argentina in which an alien invasion is an allegory for neocolonialism. The author was murdered in the military dictatorship, but you still find this image as graffiti in Buenos Aires with the word RESISTE.
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bengalherder Donating Member (718 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 02:26 AM
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27. Has this graphic novel ever been translated?
I would love to read it.
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Capitalocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 02:43 AM
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28. El Eternauta
I'm not seeing it online but I've seen an English version at a bookstore here in Buenos Aires, so I know it exists.
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druidity33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 07:27 AM
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32. It looks pretty rare...
From this website:
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ElEternauta



"There are translations to French and Italian, Italy being a country where El Eternauta hit it bigtime and a major reason for the sequel being made. Besides Argentina, the last original edition is available in Spain too. Word Of God says that an English edition was printed somewhen in Britain, probably in the seventies, but if so, it is so rare it has become almost an Urban Legend."


I can't find any other reference to it being printed in English...

which is a bummer.

:(


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Capitalocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 12:58 PM
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53. I've seen English versions at a local bookstore
Edited on Tue Dec-21-10 01:10 PM by Capitalocracy
If anyone actually wants one, I can go see if they still have them or know where to get them.



Edit to add: Maybe I'm wrong, maybe it's just Mafalda they have in English. But I'd be willing to check if anyone's interested.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 08:56 AM
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36. Test footage surfaces for Argentine alien invasion epic EL ETERNAUTA
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 09:07 AM
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40. Very interesting. Wonder if it's available somewhere in English. n/t
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-10 08:18 PM
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13. k&r
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-10 08:34 PM
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14. K&R n/t
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-10 09:20 PM
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15. K & R!! RESIST!
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socialist_n_TN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-10 10:05 PM
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16. In all ways and at all times.........
RESIST!
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-10 10:07 PM
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17. Courageous Americans resisting the tyranny. Proud to RECOMMEND this one. nt
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-10 10:20 PM
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18. K&R
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-10 11:05 PM
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19. k & r
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-10 11:08 PM
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20. Enough of the abuse.
It's a ground swell. Participate and resist.

And excellent OP, seafan.
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 09:10 AM
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43. We have, indeed, had enough. Thanks, HCE SuiGeneris. n/t
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newtothegame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-10 11:11 PM
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21. Barack Obama is President. War is good. Long live war. nt
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 12:06 AM
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22. ''We can rely now on only ourselves, on each other.''
That is democracy, when We the People rule the government.
When government rules the People, it's not Democracy.
And it certainly isn't the United States of America.

Thank you for your outstanding posts, seafan. If the American people could read you in their newspapers and hear and see your reports on-air, We the People wouldn't be facing problems we can't solve.
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 09:14 AM
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44. We all must stand together, my friend. We are a force.
And, to one of DU's finest truth tellers, here's to you, Octafish.

We are all more enlightened because you are among us.


Peace, friend.




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snagglepuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 12:43 AM
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23. K & R.
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Tanelorn Donating Member (162 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 12:46 AM
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24. So we now know how to do it, let's just do it.. RESIST RESIST RESIST
I particularly like the the thread about Gov. Crist reversing
his support of an education bill in Florida. 

"Crist has been inundated with messages about the bill,
receiving more than 109,000. Though about 49,000 were still
unread, almost 58,000 of the messages that had been logged
were against the bill."

Get angry, get organised and get your pens writing.
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kath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 01:52 AM
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25. Vive la resistance!!
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bengalherder Donating Member (718 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 02:25 AM
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26. A couple of months ago
a friend gave me a carry bag with a patch on it that simply said "Resist".

I love it even more now.

Resist.
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secondwind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 07:03 AM
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30. K&R
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saras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 07:11 AM
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31. Resist, but...
Resist, by all means. But it might be smart to resist in ways that do more to interfere with their operations and less to subject one to the arbitrary cruelty of our police state.

Do everything you can legally do to ensure that the organizations involved do not profit. Cost them more, give them less. And if you want to cross that 'legal' line, well, people speed past me on the freeway all the time. That's their business, not mine. Just don't tell me.
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handmade34 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 07:56 AM
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33. rec
"""All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing"""

much appreciation to all those who act!
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democrank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 08:44 AM
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35. K & R
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 09:05 AM
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39. K and R
War is a racket....and the only ones winning are those selling weapons to both sides.
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Spacemom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 09:09 AM
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41. K n R
There are times when remaining human is the only victory possible.


How very powerful, and true.
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CanSocDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 09:10 AM
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42. Great OP...k&r!
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 09:45 AM
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45. The revolution will not be televised.
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FailureToCommunicate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 10:02 AM
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46. Resistance is futile...
You will be assimilated.

--The Oligarchy
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 10:19 AM
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47. K&R End the Wars NOW
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 11:06 AM
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49. Resist!
K&R
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Dogtown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 11:07 AM
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51. K&R n/t
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Poboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 11:08 AM
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52. recommended
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rudyb Donating Member (9 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 01:15 PM
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54. BASTA!
Last Saturday I was in downtown Santa Cruz. I passed a police car pulling into a parking lot and made eye contact with the officer. So I smiled and mouthed a hi!
He stared at me as thought I wasn't there so I waved at him to try to break his trance but no deal. I must have represented something other than a citizen to this robot. I went about my business and as the morning went on I found myself at a local Peets having a hot coffee thinking about the way this officer watched me, it made me feel that there has to be a change in the mainstream perspective of the rest of us as there are many colors in our citizenry. So I thought what can I do????? Well one action is not to remain silent I am not a suspect/enemy I'm an American! So I say BASTA!
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socialist_n_TN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 12:17 PM
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56. Kick. Cause this needs to STAY on the front page.............
nm
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somone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 12:18 PM
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57. Highly recommended
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socialist_n_TN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 10:41 PM
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58. Kick.
nm
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-10 07:22 PM
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59. Kick
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socialist_n_TN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-25-10 12:37 PM
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60. Every time I see this when I peruse DU's back pages....................
I'm going to kick it. It needs to stay on the front page.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-10 01:16 PM
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61. Back To The Top
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