People of the world are sick of being pushed around & it's catching on here.

[KillCapitalism]

Protests all across the Middle East are spreading and intensifying which hopefully is showing our government that the US cannot rule the world by proxy through puppet dictators.

Recently teachers and state employees are standing up for themselves against the tea party governor there. Let's hope this all spreads like wildfire & we see mass protests on Wall Street and job marches in Washington DC. We can fight back against capitalism and the powers that be collectively.

[Earth_First]

1. Careful...

This is not a popular viewpoint with about 1/3 of the most vocal DU'ers...

[alfredo]

3. Fuck em

[Sonoman]

6. Yep. Just write them off, right now.

People that are to chicken-shit to take to the streets.

Fuck 'em, indeed.

Sonoman

[KillCapitalism]

10. I think that poster was referring to the DUers who side with tea partiers.

Not the people out protesting.

I'm sure there are a few on DU that would like to just see those greedy teachers and state workers go home, but not many.

[SDuderstadt]

13. I doubt that...

very much, dude.

[RegieRocker]

28. Here here

[SammyWinstonJack]

9. +10000!

:thumbsup:

[Lucian]

41. 1/3 is smaller than 2/3, right?

I also say fuck them.

[alfredo]

2. Why is it class warfare only when we fight back?

http://www.commondreams.org/view/2011/02/13-2


Resist!!

[SDuderstadt]

4. "Fight back against capitalism"

and replace it with what? Do you realize the largest employer in our country, small and medium size businesses, are an example of capitalism?

Wouldn't it make more sense to re-establish the ideals of democratic capitalism?

[KillCapitalism]

8. Fight back against this sick form of capitalism we have.

The form of capitalism we have now has morphed into a capitalist plutocracy where we are all slaves to the elite.

I'd like to see it replaced with a Scandinavian style of social democracy.

[Name removed]

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[Kennah]

20. I tend to prefer ...

... democratic socialism with a much more regulated free market economy.

I suspect we're just dickering over whether we go out for drinks after work on Wednesday or Thursday.

[readmoreoften]

31. It's something that people in a poli-sci department made up because it sounds good.

But its completely divorced from history and the actual mechanisms of capitalism. It's just a meaningless, feel-good term.

[SDuderstadt]

37. Thanks for the silly surface...

critique, dude.

[readmoreoften]

39. It's not a concept worth giving any more time to "dude".

[SDuderstadt]

47. Because you automatically reject...

anything that has the word "capitalism" in it.

[StarburstClock]

14. Yes as capitalism is only as good as its regulation

Without laws and regulation countries end up corrupt and engage in organized crimes, torture, spying on citizens, massive propaganda, false inflation, rigged elections, widespread cronyism, cover-ups and a sense of learned helplessness, as if nothing can be done about it.

Hmnnnn.....

[SDuderstadt]

16. Democratic capitalism is...

regulated capitalism. You might what to read up on it.

Google "democratic capitalism" + "Charles Kelly" or "Ray Carey".

[StarburstClock]

19. Thanks, will do.

After briefly looking 1 site over, it looks like a lot of things I'm already aware of and agree with.

[SDuderstadt]

22. You're welcome...

which site did you check out?

[StarburstClock]

23. kellysite. It's spot on regarding the effects of propaganda and pay-offs.

In fact, I didn't find a single thing there that I disagree with.

[BOG PERSON]

25. ugh

why don't you just post a link to what you want people to read instead of telling them to wade through the shit of google. come on, man.

[readmoreoften]

32. And how exactly is capital going to be regulated? Who is going to do the regulation?

The politicians that need the funding for re-election? Government agencies funded by the politicians who are funded by capitalists? How can capitalism be regulated when it uses mathematical tools to intentionally shield its behavior from regulation? Don't tell me what you "believe" and think is right, tell me exactly how such a thing could ever possibly exist.

(This is not even remoting considering the argument that all capital originates in the gap between pay and price, and is thus inherently anti-democratic.)

[SDuderstadt]

35. Look up...

"genetic fallacy".

Silly post.

[readmoreoften]

42. There is no genetic fallacy in my post. Check out "ad hominem" while you're at it.

Obviously you can't back up your mind-numbingly empty political concepts with an actual argument for them. So instead you call me "silly".

[SDuderstadt]

46. I said your POST...

was silly.

Nice strawman, dude.

[socialist_n_TN]

26. You just described the pure form of capitalism.........

What we've had as "regulated" capitalism is a bastardized version that was ONLY put into place because the PTB in the 30s were shitting thier step ins about a socialist USA. They "regulated" it until the workforce calmed down and the older workers died off. The younger ones in the 80s (my generation sorry to say) were ripe for Reagan to get the ball rolling by convincing them that "EVERYBODY can get rich!" KNOWING that that was bullshit. Everything since Reagan has led up to what we have now. The pure version of capitalism.

Remember "regulating" capitalism is like riding the tiger. It's hard to do for very long and you're always in danger of being eaten.

[Starry Messenger]

27. "shitting their step-ins"

:rofl: I'm laughing so hard I can't type. +1

[socialist_n_TN]

29. Well Starry, that WAS what they called them..........

:)

[SDuderstadt]

38. Blah, blah...

blah.

[socialist_n_TN]

43. Pithy, yet SO full of information..........

Do I really need that sarcasm thingy?

[SDuderstadt]

45. Just what your...

nonsense post deserved, dude.

[socialist_n_TN]

48. Of course, you would think so.........

You think that capitalism can be regulated. :rofl:

[leftstreet]

51. LOL

I had to Google that. Step ins. LOL

And +1 for your post

:thumbsup:

[sabrina 1]

18. Fight the current system of runaway Capitalism

The 'Freidman/Rand/Greenspan' greedy, selfish, non-caring brand which is what we have right now, but like all other 'isms' it got out of hand and may be about to be dealt with, as has happened in the past with the rest of the 'isms'.

How about we just have a fair system of doing business where people who work for a living are paid a livable wage and the owners of the businesses are rewarded proportionately for their investments of time, energy and money. But what we have now is a system where people do not count. People are a commodity to be exploited and if they can't find them here, they find them in slave labor factories overseas, while our government rewards them for doing so.

It doesn't need a label. 'Capitalism' or anything else. Just a fair system, where people count. Is that so hard to do in this country? apparently it is.

[SDuderstadt]

21. Check out "democratic capitalism"

You might like it

[readmoreoften]

33. That's not "runaway" capitalism. That's capitalism.

That's what it is and what it has always been from the time of the enclosure movements and the theft of communal property of the serfs until present day. The only reason why we had a decent standard of living in the mid-20th century is because we were competing with the theory of communism, and therefore had strong unions. The only reason why Europe has any regulation at all is that there was no red scare and less union busting.

[sabrina 1]

49. I agree with you. And I would love to see an end to this system

completely. The only people it benefits are the already wealthy and it seems to be a system set up to keep them wealthy and take as much from the working class as possible.

[AlabamaLibrul]

52. Pardon my English, but what the fuck is democratic capitalism?

To me, that sounds like a (very poorly-worded) synonym for anarcho-syndicalism. Because capitalism has never been, is not now, and will never be democratic.

[SDuderstadt]

55. You have got to be...

kidding.

http://www.kellysite.net/

http://www.democratic-capitalism.com/

Small and medium size businesses - the largest employer in this country - are an example of capitalism. The "all capitalism is evil" crowd is such a hoot.

[Newest Reality]

5. K&R

[butterfly77]

7. Kicked&Recommended...

[bigwillq]

11. K and R (nt)

[polichick]

15. "I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore"...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dib2-HBsF08

[fascisthunter]

17. Yes it is, and it's got some very nervous

[Kennah]

24. I only wish the American people were mad as hell, but ...

... I fear we are years away from any tangible outrage.

Please, please, please, my fellow Americans, prove me wrong.

[Countdown_3_2_1]

30. Agree. Not gonna happen here.

All the protests are for regime change.
Obama is in charge, People still like him. Sanity is in (more or less) good supply. People are free to protest and speak out without being arrested.

Sorry gang, I don't see it happening.
seriously, what is the motivation?

[KillCapitalism]

54. It's just different here than Egypt.

The big motivation there was to overthrow a puppet dictator. I don't think anyone is wanting to overthrow Obama, or the actual government. It's all angst against the system and the plutocracy.

This is just the beginning, if changes are not made to reverse the flow of all wealth to the rich, you'll see protests here become more frequent. It might not hit a boiling point until we hit 40% youth unemployment, or until people start having to live on less than $2 a day. Capitalism is just no longer sustainable, ask the poor how it's working out for them.

[applegrove]

34. Notice how when revolution broke out all throughout the Middle East and is now

all over the tv the GOP have gone absolutely nuts with "government get outta our lives" meme. It is in commercials on the tv, it is in criticisms of Michelle Obama and in every sentence uttered by the GOP. Perchance the GOP was worried the spirit of revolution against rich oppressors would infect the USA.

At first I thought the GOP was 'peaking early' since there is no election in the near future. Now I think they were afraid.

[BeFree]

36. Deeply Afraid

[Raksha]

40. Good! It's damn well about time they were afraid of US for a change!

[BeFree]

44. They know they are outnumbered.

As long as we don't cause any trouble, we ain't any trouble.

[AsahinaKimi]

50. Aya Aya Fighting!!

FAITO!!

[somone]

53. Recommended

[mimitabby]

56. yes yes yes

[Lorien]

57. We can't just "hope"; we have to step up and take action ourselves

organize.