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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-11 09:06 AM
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Know what, President Obama ain't turning Left, we've been hung out to dry
Edited on Tue Feb-15-11 09:06 AM by DainBramaged
fact are facts. He has drunk the Puke Kool Aid and he is doing their bidding. I hate writing this, but there better be an alternative down the road instead of the Corporatist disguised as a Democrat.


Time to start drinking heavily.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-11 09:08 AM
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1. Nothing will change until we demand it
Opposition to Obama will be crushed. We are quickly running out of options.
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LiberalAndProud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-11 09:11 AM
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2. Interchangeable parts.
Replace one politician with another, the machine grinds on.

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Badfish Donating Member (543 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-11 09:15 AM
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8. Oh please
McCain is the same as Obama.

Stop already
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LiberalAndProud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-11 09:47 AM
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22. Obama's speeches are more lyrical than McCain's would be.
Pardon me if a subscribe to the invisible hand theory. The same money buys the election, whether it's a (D) or an (R) who wins. Money is power in this world, and in our country, money is speech as well. This is a rich man's world. The wealthy select the music and we all dance to it.

Don't get me wrong, I'll vote for the (D) every time, but I've stopped believing it matters much beyond cosmetics. The big things don't change. The wars wage on. People still die for lack of medical care. Higher education still remains beyond the financial grasp of my grandchildren. Our Constitution still has not been restored.

The big things don't change.

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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-11 10:57 AM
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67. As it concerns money and foreign policy, they are-- yes.
Edited on Tue Feb-15-11 10:58 AM by Marr
What's so hard to understand? The differences between the parties are relatively subtle and superficial. When it comes to economic policy, the two parties have become practically indistinguishable.
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phleshdef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-11 09:11 AM
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3. How do you explain the items in his budget that end oil subsidies and restore the tax increase...
...for the wealthy? How do you explain the parts that fund 6 years of dramatic infrastructure improvement, much aimed at high speed rail development.

Does the left now base all of its principles on stimulus level heating assistance, paltry raises in pell grant assistance and community block funding?
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-11 09:11 AM
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5. (sigh) wallpaper
Edited on Tue Feb-15-11 10:04 AM by DainBramaged
On edit


I will BET a year from now, those will have been dropped, but the cuts to the social safety net will remain in place.


You have got to be kidding to think that the Oil industry will not remain status quo.


http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/omb/budge...
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-11 09:13 AM
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Badfish Donating Member (543 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-11 09:25 AM
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15. Oh , I get it.
You have outrage about something that could happen in the future.

Oil subsidies were ended and it upsets you cause they could be reversed someday ?

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enlightenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-11 09:23 AM
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14. I would think that the 'left' would be a little more concerned about
principles that directly impact people. It is concerning that you so cavalierly dismiss heating assistance for the poor, grant assistance to students in need (it might be paltry to you, but ask a student trying to finish their schooling whilst working two jobs - that summer grant was not paltry to them), and the very funding that Mr. 'Community Organizer' no doubt took advantage of in his efforts to improve lives.

So what's going to happen with that budget when it hits Congress? The parts you think are fabulous will be cut or so slashed in scope that they become meaningless and the parts you think are 'paltry' will pass through without a blink. That's not fortune-telling, just looking at what happens to budgets, historically.

The 'left' recognizes that - just like they recognize that 'compromise' only works when both sides agree to it.
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phleshdef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-11 09:28 AM
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18. Heating assistance is being proposed at pre-stimulus levels. I understand the outrage over it.
Edited on Tue Feb-15-11 09:30 AM by phleshdef
But I don't approve of the way many are mischaracterizing it. I can live with a lot of those other cuts though. We have a bad hole to pay our way out of. We need to raise taxes. We need to cut defense. We also need to redirect some domestic spending as well. If he managed to get the money for national high speed rail by cutting commmunity block funding and freezing pale grants, its completely worth it.

My point is, people around here are purposefully ignoring items in the proposal that they damn well should be supporting.
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-11 09:59 AM
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Pre-stimulus levels are NOT enough...why can you apologists not get that?
MORE people need it now, not less. Fuck the rationalization, people are going to freeze unless they get this help THAT is the bottom line, and yet the uber-wealthy got their tax breaks extended...

You can try and spin that anyway you want, the bottom line, people in need are not going to the help they need to stay warm.

The quickest way to 'pay our way out of the hole' is to tax the shit out of the millionaires, but no-one in D.C. has the stones to actually do that, so they go after the folks that DON'T have a voice, the poor.

My point is, people around here are purposefully ignoring the fact that a Democrat is proposing LESS help to the needy.

I thought this was DEMOCRATIC Underground, not Obama-must-always-be-defended-Underground, because I didn't sign up for that shit...I call 'em as I see 'em, and when the guy in the WH, regardless of party, proposes shafting the poor and needy, I call them out on it.
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somone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-11 10:15 AM
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37. A Democrat must never propose less help to the poor AND more help to the rich
Edited on Tue Feb-15-11 10:38 AM by somone
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disillusioned73 Donating Member (963 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-11 11:01 AM
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70. That toon makes me wanna cry...
:banghead: I need to stop following politics once more.. for my own well being. I need to focus on my 2 year old son a lot more - but I can't, this Jeeny(sp) is outta the bottle(so to speak) and I can''t turn away... ugh
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-11 10:16 AM
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39. Don't know that you have any proof of that
Yeah the quickest way is to tax millionaires, but it has to pass Congress too.

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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-11 10:21 AM
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45. Any proof of what? That more people need LIHEAP now than before the Stim?
Let me know, I have back-up if you need it.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-11 10:26 AM
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52. And, do you agree we should sustain the military budget at oh, whatever the fuck it is?
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-11 10:26 AM
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53. Here ya go. Click on states and see the increases.
Just about every state has had a substantial increase in households who use LIHEAP since 2008. I know they're worthless poor people but try to pretend that they're human, treestar.
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AlabamaLibrul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-11 09:59 AM
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27. No, it would not be worth national high speed rail if you freeze/cut Pells, community block funding,
Edited on Tue Feb-15-11 10:00 AM by AlabamaLibrul
SocSec, LIHEAP, and so on. And of course national high speed rail assumes that Big Oil would allow it since they are still the ones who run the game.

Do I support national high speed rail? Absolutely. Is it "completely worth it" to stop helping huge swaths of the population to basically turn Amtrak into a functioning system in 2011 - decades after others have figured it out? Absolutely not.
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phleshdef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-11 11:15 AM
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72. I didn't say social security. Don't put words in my post!
And national high speed rail is a much bigger deal than what the proposals do with LIHEAP, community block funding, pale grants, etc.

For one, none of those 3 items are going away. All 3 are still being funded by this budget. Secondly, its just a budget. We do one every year. Its not cutting or freezing anything forever. National high speed rail on the other hand, once established and constructed, would be an investment in the nation that will reap rewards for decades to come.

I don't want any of those items cut or frozen. But I would accept that in lieue of something monumentally, positively huge for this country.
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suffragette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-11 11:47 AM
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80. Any particular reason you keep using "pale grants" rather than Pell Grants?
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-11 11:50 AM
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81. It's the critical thinking part......
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-11 10:13 AM
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33. Were you worried about the "bad hole" we were in when the Bush tax cuts were extended?
You know, back in December?
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-11 10:15 AM
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35. $850 billion dollars added to the deficit I think...
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phleshdef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-11 11:19 AM
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73. Yea, but I was more worried about a lack of unemployment extension and huge tax increases for...
...lower and middle income people in the middle of a shaky recovery. If unemployment was below 6-7%, then I could have lived with seeing those benefits lapse and those middle class taxes going up. But it wasn't, so a 2 year extension of all tax levels was worth it in that scenario.

You see, critical thinkers can be concerned about many things and also learn how to prioritize that concern.



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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-11 11:44 AM
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79. critical thinkers
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :spray: :spray: :spray: :spray:
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-11 09:39 AM
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19. He knows they will never get by a Republican Congress
He will sign whatever Republicans present to him...He still has the belief I have nowhere else to go..I will not vote for a Republican no matter how many Ds they have after their name.
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phleshdef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-11 09:42 AM
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20. Wow, but I thought "not having the votes" weren't a valid excuse for anything.
At least that seems to be the meme around here when it comes to things like single payer.
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AlabamaLibrul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-11 10:06 AM
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29. Not a valid excuse, per se, but I wonder if President Obama does recall
Edited on Tue Feb-15-11 10:07 AM by AlabamaLibrul
who *got the votes* for him in 2008. All I'm suggesting is that he should be trying to please those who actually voted for him - not the corporate persons "who" filled his pockets.
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-11 09:55 AM
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24. This is how to explain the end to oil subsidies and restoration of the
tax increase to the wealthy: WON'T HAPPEN! They're, loss leaders. UNLESS, it's an immediate end, I don't believe. They always put dates on this stuff, resurrect them later, and extend the dates....IF, it's done at all.

I explain the six years of funding for infrastructure improvement as enough time to get through another election cycle. Six Years? It will take two years to decide which construction companies get the contracts....always seems that way. I'd also like to see where these improvements will take place if passed. Is there a political agenda wrapped around this?

I KNOW we have to start somewhere but I am so jaded. Basing principles on 'assistance' to those in need seems more noble, at least, and an avenue to balance out the weight on the other end of the spectrum.

I don't mean to be a wet blanket however, at this stage of the budget process, I don't give much credence to anything that is proposed. It's what shakes out in the end. Hopefully, I will be pleasantly surprised.

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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-11 10:15 AM
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38. "Loss leaders" is a great descritption. eom
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-11 10:46 AM
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63. Works for Walmart! nt
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-11 10:15 AM
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36. Yes it is all based on any item that can be found that will support
the pre-existing conclusion: we're all fucked, or some version of that.

When people want to be victims, they will be able to find a way in any federal budget.
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-11 10:23 AM
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48. That'll totally make the SS and Medicare cuts feel better. eom
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-11 10:37 AM
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61. He gone, too many facts.....
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grahamhgreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-11 10:43 AM
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62. Restore tax increases on the wealthy? He just cut them - by 858 billion! He's gong after Grandma
Now wants the money from grannies energy budget - just like the Enron guys.


"(CBS) When a forest fire shut down a major transmission line into California, cutting power supplies and raising prices, Enron energy traders celebrated, CBS News Correspondent Vince Gonzales reports.

"Burn, baby, burn. That's a beautiful thing," a trader sang about the massive fire.

Four years after California's disastrous experiment with energy deregulation, Enron energy traders can be heard on audiotapes obtained by CBS News gloating and praising each other as they helped bring on, and cash-in on, the Western power crisis.

"He just f---s California," says one Enron employee. "He steals money from California to the tune of about a million."

"Will you rephrase that?" asks a second employee.

"OK, he, um, he arbitrages the California market to the tune of a million bucks or two a day," replies the first.

The tapes, from Enron's West Coast trading desk, also confirm what CBS reported years ago: that in secret deals with power producers, traders deliberately drove up prices by ordering power plants shut down.

"If you took down the steamer, how long would it take to get it back up?" an Enron worker is heard saying.

"Oh, it's not something you want to just be turning on and off every hour. Let's put it that way," another says.

"Well, why don't you just go ahead and shut her down."

Officials with the Snohomish Public Utility District near Seattle received the tapes from the Justice Department.

"This is the evidence we've all been waiting for. This proves they manipulated the market," said Eric Christensen, a spokesman for the utility.

That utility, like many others, is trying to get its money back from Enron.

"They're f------g taking all the money back from you guys?" complains an Enron employee on the tapes. "All the money you guys stole from those poor grandmothers in California?"

"Yeah, grandma Millie, man"

"Yeah, now she wants her f------g money back for all the power you've charged right up, jammed right up her a------ for f------g $250 a megawatt hour.""

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rusty fender Donating Member (442 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-11 09:11 AM
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4. I have even worse news for you:
Obama is the "best" president that we'll ever have. He is the furthest "left" that could ever be produced by the Dem party. :banghead:
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jaxx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-11 09:12 AM
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6. What bunk.
And so early in the day.

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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-11 09:16 AM
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9. You opinion is not "facts"...nt
Sid
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-11 10:05 AM
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28.  And yours never is....
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-11 10:59 AM
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68. Right. And I don't present it as "facts are facts"...nt
Sid
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-11 11:28 AM
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76. meh meh and meh
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-11 09:18 AM
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10. We hear this same message everytime someone doesn't like everything
the President does.

Have a drink on me! :beer:
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-11 09:21 AM
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13. Uff da!
More pronouncements...
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sharp_stick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-11 09:28 AM
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16. If all you concentrate on is
stuff that may happen and worry endlessly about it you probably will end up with a serious substance abuse problem and should probably avoid anything to do with politics beyond your local PTA. Then again the PTA can be a little harsh at times, maybe just hide under the bed until spring.

Based on history the idea that you "hate writing this" is kind of humorous too.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-11 09:28 AM
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17. hmmmmm.....
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-11 09:44 AM
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21. What about the Gov't-sanctioned hit-job on Toyota to help GM?
That has to account for something. :shrug:
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-11 10:30 AM
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56. I have also wondered about that... nt
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-11 09:54 AM
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23. snark! It sorta depends on how frickin' far left you want him to go.
From my perspective, he waaaay left. From the perspective of the right, he is so far left that they can't even see him. From the point of view of most at DU, he won't be far enough to the left until he's gone beyond Dennis Kucinich.

meh.
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-11 09:59 AM
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26. I agree with your assessment. The question is, what could be
done about this? There is no way that Obama would voluntarily step down or that the Dems would
run someone else. That leaves the choices Obama or a Republican and with Obama functioning largely as a Republican, we aren't any better off with him than with a Republican.

I think we are just screwed.
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jtown1123 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-11 10:08 AM
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30. I agree with you. Now Obama's buddies are saying he wants to grand bargain
on Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid with the Republicans...we know how that will end for us peons.


http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezra-klein/2011/02/whi...

http://www.alternet.org/economy/149614/now_there\'s_eve...

http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2010/12/building...

This just in...

Mark Halperin, co-author of "Game Change," stated this morning on MSNBC's "Morning Joe" that President Obama "is not afraid to lose re-election over entitlement reform." He predicted, based on his pipeline to the WH, that the President will in fact tackle Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security as part of the so-called "grand bargain" that he apparently still wants to forge with Republicans. Joe Scarborough was clearly skeptical about Halperin's claim, saying that he sees no evidence of Obama's "leadership" on entitlement reform, which Scarborough defines as benefit reductions. But he also acknowledged that Halperin has much better WH sources. When pressed, Halperin said that he expects the WH to move on entitlements in March -- unless House Repubs, especially Paul Ryan, also "punt" (today's favorite sports metaphor on the budget) on entitlements.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-11 10:11 AM
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31. I said it yesterday, and it went unnoticed, he's working on his legacy
he doesn't give a rat's ass about the regular Joe's who put him in office.
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jtown1123 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-11 10:17 AM
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40. So he wants his legacy to be the man who single handedly stole $ from seniors? awesome
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-11 10:19 AM
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42. The great uniter.......
I'm tired of 8-level chess. I'm tired of his refusing to confront the attackers, I'm tired of the pacifist.

Sorry you aren't.
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jtown1123 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-11 10:20 AM
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43. Ughh I am tired too, trust me. It falls on deaf ears unfortunately
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-11 10:24 AM
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49. I am too...
..this cerebral bullshit is getting old..
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-11 10:29 AM
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54. Te Right-wing attack machine goes unanswered, and all he wants to do is compromise
was this some kind of fifth dimensional transplant?
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-11 10:30 AM
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55. Maybe he's hoping that the bullies will give up after they tire themselves out..
...from beating him so much?

I just don't get it.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-11 10:32 AM
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58. They've been bullies for two generations
listen to the speeches coming out of CPAC. And he does NOTHING to deflect or shut down their rhetoric.


It is hurting us as a party, and he just keeps on compromising hoping they will do the right thing.


They never will.

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somone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-11 10:12 AM
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32. His progressive lineage is solid
By their fruits ye shall know them







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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-11 10:14 AM
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34. :facepalm:
Not this shit again.

Were you not worse off during the Bush administration? Jesus on a trailer hitch!
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NorthCarolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-11 10:23 AM
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47. Actually,
under Bush my partner and I still had health insurance. Rate increases beyond our ability to continue to purchase coverage happened in December of 2010. Last I checked, Obama was in the WH then. I'm in no way suggesting that Bush was preferable, just stating a fact.
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Pisces Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-11 10:48 AM
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64. Maybe you can vote for Jeb.
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NorthCarolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-11 11:07 AM
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71. I kind of feel
like I already did in 2008 when I voted for Obama.
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-11 10:50 AM
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65. Uh, a lot of people are worse off now, treestar.
You must be very comfortable to be so oblivious.
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Pisces Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-11 10:22 AM
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46. Trying to sabotage the democratic party by suggesting we run another candidate is divisive.
I have alerted.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-11 10:24 AM
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50. Announcing you have alerted is a no no too!
can you explain why the military budget wasn't cut?
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Pisces Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-11 10:34 AM
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59. Didn't know you couldn't announce your alert. I have seen many posts doing the same.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-11 10:36 AM
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60. Rules page, thee for EVERYONE not just me
Do not say that you are hitting the alert link to report another member. You are permitted to tell someone that you are adding them to your ignore list, provided that you actually do so.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/forums/rules_detai...
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jtown1123 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-11 10:25 AM
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51. Not being a Democrat while saying you are is destructive, which is worse than divisive
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-11 10:31 AM
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57. Deleted sub-thread
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Autumn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-11 10:55 AM
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66. I wouldn't rec your post earlier, but then
I listened to Obama, that changed my mind. REC
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tallahasseedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-11 11:00 AM
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69. "Time to start drinking heavily"
This line is soooo played out.

Oh, and I'm sure you HATED writing this.
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-11 11:19 AM
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74. Yes, we was punked
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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-11 11:20 AM
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75. Yep. I wonder who he thinks will re-elect him next time around?
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somone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-11 11:42 AM
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77. The Citizens United crowd will fill stadiums for him
:sarcasm:
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Poboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-11 11:43 AM
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78. Enraged recommendation.
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-11 11:51 AM
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82. Next there will be some terror thingy to get attention...
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-11 11:59 AM
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83. Locking...
this thread has become nothing more than an arena to slug it out with other members, the object of rational discourse has been replaced with repeated attacks upon members and their points of view.
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