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Gemini Cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 01:25 PM
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Kent State Shootings: Does former informer hold the key to the May 4 mystery?
Kent State shootings: Does former informant hold the key to the May 4 mystery?

Published: Sunday, December 19, 2010, 6:01 AM
Updated: Sunday, December 19, 2010, 11:44 AM

By John Mangels, The Plain Dealer

KENT, Ohio — In the four decades since Ohio National Guardsmen fired on students and antiwar demonstrators at Kent State University, Terry Norman has remained a central but shadowy figure in the tragedy.
The 21-year-old law enforcement major and self-described "gung-ho" informant was the only civilian known to be carrying a gun -- illegally, though with the tacit consent of campus police -- when the volatile protest unfolded on May 4, 1970. Witnesses saw him with his pistol out around the time the Guardsmen fired.

Though Norman denied shooting his weapon, and was never charged in connection with the four dead and nine wounded at Kent State, many people suspected he somehow triggered the soldiers' deadly 13-second volley.

In October, a Plain Dealer-commissioned exam of a long-forgotten audiotape from the protest focused new attention on Norman. Enhancement of the recording revealed a violent altercation and four gunshots, 70 seconds before the Guard's fusillade. Forensic audio expert Stuart Allen said the shots are from a .38-caliber pistol, like the one police confiscated from Norman minutes after the Guard shootings.

The newspaper's subsequent review of hundreds of documents from the various investigations of Norman, including his own statements, and interviews with key figures, uncovered more surprising information:

• The Kent State police department's and FBI's initial assessment of Norman was badly flawed, with failures to test his pistol and clothing for evidence of firing, to interview witnesses who claimed Norman may have shot his gun and to pursue the question of whether it was reloaded before police verified its condition.

• The Kent State police detective who took possession of Norman's pistol, and whose investigation ruled out its having been fired, was directing Norman's work as an informant and later helped him get a job as a police officer.

Much more at link:

http://www.cleveland.com/science/index.ssf/2010/12/kent_state_shootings_does_form.html





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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 01:44 PM
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1. Yes. K&R
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 02:09 PM
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2. A provocateur?
I'm shocked. No I'm not.
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nannah Donating Member (690 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 02:43 PM
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3. my mother saw the first video of the event that day
she was home for lunch. she said the national guard fired directly at the students. she said she never saw that footage ever again, and she was looking for it because she was so shocked by what she saw. this makes some sense regarding why they fired directly at the students.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 02:45 PM
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4. A million and one "explanations" for the obvious
Edited on Sun Dec-19-10 02:45 PM by alcibiades_mystery
The lengths to which people bend over backwards to "explain" the Guardsmen's actions is pathetic. They fired because they hated the protestors. Period. The rest of it is nonsense and deflection.

There is no fucking mystery to solve.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 03:43 PM
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5. Most of the people in the Guard, especially those with ranks
E-5 & under, had joined the Guard to avoid Vietnam. Why should one automatically assume they hated the protestors? If someone was shooting a pistol from the crowd, it certainly helps explain why they so readily opened fire.

The real question is why the hell they were armed with live ammo.

I remember in Spring '69 on the Madison campus when I would sometimes go up to Guardsmen & talk to them. Sometimes 2 or 3 would be stationed out in front of a building. I asked them things like what kind of rounds they were carrying for their M-79 grenade launchers, etc. Of course they wouldn't tell me, but they weren't hostile.
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 04:06 PM
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6. They fired because those were their orders, in my opinion only.
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