I can't say what I'm thinking about Obama.

[cali]

Slashing LIHEAP (Low Income heating Assistance Program) by BILLIONS. That's his idea of budget cut. Making poor people suffer and likely die.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/20...

[chimpymustgo]

1. Every day, a new disgust.

[emilyg]

47. Correct - goes on and on.

[earth mom]

126. It's almost like Chimpy never left.

[arctos49]

143. Obama

That is why many people are calling this Bush's third term. We have come a very long way from that campaign rhetoric of 2008.

[totodeinhere]

245. Yes, and shrub is laughing his ass off. n/t

[Justpat]

255. it really is.

The daily feelings of disgust and outrage are the same for me as when Chimpy was in WH.

[Hannah Bell]

2. kr

[aquart]

3. Just when winters are getting worse. Great plan.

Anything but tax the rich.

[Cetacea]

16. Let's not forget heat stroke

There are millions of senior citizens living in Florida where the heat index is typically well over 115 F for five months. Heat related deaths are under reported. I should add that most of the seniors in southern Florida are democrats...

[bobbolink]

209. Thank you! Most people don't think of that.

Like not thinking of people being hungry, except at holiday time.

Just doesn't enter the brain.

[femrap]

262. Heat does kill more

people than cold. But damn...heating costs more than A/C. A LOT MORE.

I read that elderly in Britain were riding around in buses all day so to save on heat.

I'd prefer my taxes go to paying heating bills than for tanks headed to Afghanistan.

Next is SS...just wait.

[obxhead]

78. Or building a few less bombs, or closing a couple of useless bases. nt

[Knight Hawk]

159. 25% of the oil.......................

used by the our country is consumed by the military.Fifty five years after the end of the Korean war we have 40,000 troops in Korea.Why?

[Mimosa]

221. Interesting.

Why did this country export all our 'making things' jobs? Was it so that in the absence of 'the draft' the military would still have plenty of troops?

[Cali_Democrat]

4. At least we still have the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan

Poor people are benefiting tremendously from those wars.

Poor people also got their tax cuts for the wealthy which will trickle down to them in short order.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

8. the Afghans never did anything to us

[rhett o rick]

12. Since when was that a criteria? nm

[Rosa Luxemburg]

28. LOL!

[rhett o rick]

290. Correction, should have said criterion. Thanks to an alert reader. nm

[Rosa Luxemburg]

5. maybe slashing the banks would be more useful

[chimpymustgo]

9. But the bankers must make billions! And we must send billions to dictators! We must pay for WARS!

I am just beyond disgusted with Obama. I am hating.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

29. He should be careful on this

[rhett o rick]

The banksters own Washington the DC not the state. nm

[Hannah Bell]

27. they own the state too.

[rhett o rick]

42. Good point. nm

[villager]

6. Well, I guess that's "change." Of a sort.

n/t

[Lorien]

89. I think that the "change" was "You would never expect a DEMOCRAT to screw

you over like this!"

[villager]

125. or you "hoped" one wouldn't!

False hope, evidently.

[johnnie]

7. "The individual discussed the budget proposal on condition of anonymity"

Ummmm-k. Is this like Obama will never repeal DADT and the numerous other things reported on DU?

[rhett o rick]

15. No it's more like Obama will never give us the public option. nm

[countmyvote4real]

242. Obama didn't repeal DADT, Congress did that. n/t

[TheCowsCameHome]

10. The right will love him for it.

Me, not so much........

[quakerboy]

96. Thats the sad part

If this does happen, they will not love him for it. They will proclaim him the new socialist Hitler every bit as loudly as ever.

[mmonk]

136. +1

He is a rejected conservative. They are about taking him down.

[nxylas]

137. Exactly

It's like some form of abused spouse syndrome.

[City Lights]

165. The right will never love him.

Ever.

[CrossChris]

177. I don't think they will. I think they will spin it as Obama being Socialist somehow

That's the frustrating thing---even when he totally accommodates them, they play the victims.

[Erose999]

183. He has one attribute that will ensure that the Right will never accept him.

I'll give you 3 guesses what it is.

[somone]

11. Killing the poor is a Republican tradition

[cali]

14. too bad President Obama is taking up the mantle with such zeal.

[rhett o rick]

19. Killing the poor is an oligarch's tradition. Oligarch's dont have a specific party affiliation. nm

[whathehell]

243. They used to...

Just sayin..

[rhett o rick]

265. Well they dont now. Money and greed control the country. nm

[whathehell]

268. Yes, Sir!...

Whatever you say, Sir!!

You can cut the officiousness, bro..I don't think you'll find many here who disagree

[rhett o rick]

274. Officiousness, oh my god not that. Sorry, I get wound up sometimes. nm

[whathehell]

275. That is correct...n/t.

[rhett o rick]

278. lol, touch-a. nm

[whathehell]

283. lol, touch-a. nm.

your ass.

[Beacool]

248. Obama's admiration of Regan is well known.

He is just following in his hero's footsteps.

[RandomThoughts]

13. What do you expect.

If they can't handle correcting the beer and travel money due to me, why would reports in the news about some action, true or not, be able to handle a condition.

[eleny]

17. It's to be without conscience to treat children and the elderly like this

[chimpymustgo]

25. You are so sadly correct, eleny. It's heartbreaking that he has conscience or courage.

[MissDeeds]

50. Exactly

To treat the most vulnerable and defenseless in our society in such a manner is disgusting. No one who would do this deserves to call himself a Democrat.

[chimpymustgo]

63. That should be NEITHER conscience NOR courage. Posted and ran to a meeting.

[eleny]

81. +1

[Lorien]

85. I can't remember who it was, but one of his aides or advisors said that Obama

was the least "sentimental" person they had ever known. Somehow I think "least sentimental" is only the tip of the iceberg.

[chimpymustgo]

153. He's a cold, calculating SOB. There's just no other way to view him.

[DrDan]

18. +100

[madokie]

20. Anonymous and washington post does not a story make

So I'll pass on this outrage

[cali]

22. It's hardly just the WaPo.

It's being reported everywhere. As far as I can see, there's been no denial from the WH. I hope you will be outraged if this is the plan.

[madokie]

35. The key word there is IF

[cali]

37. no, it's really not. I hardly think John Kerry would-

be asking the admin not to do this, if this was merely speculative.

[CrispyQ]

30. John Kerry asks Obama to reconsider:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

Still want to pass?

[tekisui]

33. I hope by 'pass' you mean 'wait'. This isn't a made up story.

[DeSwiss]

71. Remember Sharon Sherrod?

And how they fell all over themselves trying to fire her before the news cycle ended for the day?

- Nuff said......

[sabrina 1]

200. How about John Kerry? He seems worried enough that this is true

that he has written a letter to Obama asking not to drop funding for LIHEAP.

[tpsbmam]

230. I don't know why I'm doing your work for you. Maybe it's just to show your post

for what it is.

Google search for Low Income Heating Assistance Program (with nothing added on)

Clicked on news link and here is what I got:

fficial&client=firefox-a#q=Low+Income+heating+Assistance+Program&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US fficial&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbo=u&tbs=nws:1&source=og&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wn&fp=a210cb19cd80217" target="_blank">http://www.google.com/search?q=Low+Income+heating+Assis...

Markey, Kerry urge against cuts to heating assistance program
‎
MetroWest Daily News - 1 hour ago
... on the president not to cut heating assistance for low-income families. ... to cut funding for the Low Income Heating and Energy Assistance Program ...

White House to Cut Heating Assistance for Low-Income Americans‎ - Slate Magazine (blog)

Obama reportedly seeks cuts in heating oil aid‎ - Boston Globe

Obama to Propose Cut to Heating Assistance‎ - Wall Street Journal

HeatingOil.com (blog) - Huffington Post
all 508 news articles »
MyFox Houston
►

Mich. could lose $75M in low-income heating aid
‎
Bloomberg - 1 day ago
... of $75 million in federal funds for low-income heating assistance this year. ... a reduction in the Low-Income Home Energy Assistance Program occurs. ...

So I clicked the 508 stories link and here are just the top few:

fficial&client=firefox-a&um=1&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&ncl=dO5msjMvYJBx40MhGgxWR1Lq-gDkM&ei=cTBUTYDmINK2tgeD6d3kCQ&sa=X&oi=news_result&ct=more-results&resnum=1&ved=0CCgQqgIwAA" target="_blank">http://news.google.com/news/more?q=Low+Income+heating+A...

White House to Cut Heating Assistance for Low-Income Americans
Slate Magazine (blog) - ‎4 hours ago‎
A heating assistance program for low-income Americans is targeted in Obama's upcoming budget plan, and Dems are already lashing out at the White House over ...
Obama to cut heating aid in half

The Australian - ‎5 hours ago‎
From: AP PRESIDENT Barack Obama wants to make a substantial cut to a home heating aid program for the poor. Sources familiar with his 2012 budget proposal ...
Obama reportedly seeks cuts in heating oil aid

Boston Globe - Michael J Bailey - ‎16 hours ago‎
By Michael J. Bailey, Globe staff President Obama is planning to request that funding for heating oil aid to the poor be cut in half in his upcoming budget ...

"Families across Massachusetts, and the country, depend on these monies to heat their homes and survive the season," Kerry wrote. "It is estimated that over 3 million families that qualify for heating assistance would not receive it if the funding levels are not maintained."
more by John Kerry - 16 hours ago - Boston Globe (1 occurrences)

AP source: Obama to propose cuts in heating aid
BusinessWeek - Darlene Superville - ‎17 hours ago‎
A person familiar with President Barack Obama's budget proposal says he wants to cut $2.5 billion from a program that provides home ...
Obama Said to Call for Cuts in Heating Oil Aid
Bloomberg - Nicholas Johnston - ‎17 hours ago‎
US President Barack Obama makes a speech at the US Chamber of Commerce in Washington. ...

Hmmmmm, you going to join in on the "outrage" now?

[madokie]

260. Don't be doing my work for me then

I still haven't heard it from the horses mouth so no amount of you or anyone else getting on my ass for what I said changes anything I said. so there

[Exultant Democracy]

21. Why not audit the military budget for contractor fraud, I guess the point isn't to save money.

This is a serious betray of the black community. For shame for shame.

[tavalon]

58. It's a betrayal of the poor communities, of which blacks comprise

way too high a percentage.

[Blue_In_AK]

100. Not only a betrayal of the black community

but also the Native Alaskans in the rural part of this state who each year are forced to pay $9 a gallon for diesel to heat their homes. In places where the temperatures stay well below zero. If this story is true, I think it's unconscionable.

[hfojvt]

23. you should be thankful

because if we hadn't elected Obama and 60 Democratic Senators then the Bush tax cuts wouldn't have been reveresed and the cuts would be even deeper.

[tavalon]

59. I'm guessing you forgot your sarcasm smiley

Because the tax cuts weren't reversed and austerity measures are progressing just as rapidly under this Third Way (DLC) administration.

[hfojvt]

80. I cannot believe that is true

after all, Obama promised hope and change. So he must be fighting for the working class and against the rich. http://journals.democraticunderground.com/hfojvt/138

[tavalon]

123. Yeah, I though so

I'm still going through the grief process myself.

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[rurallib]

31. marking to call the whitehouse tomorrow.

[cali]

32. thank you. I've already called my reps

I'll call the WH too.

[ohheckyeah]

34. What's the worst that could happen?

Poor people die and the government doesn't have to worry about medicaid for them.

Yes, that's sarcasm.

[BOG PERSON]

36. so let them die, and lower the surplus population!

[spanone]

38. i'll react when it's more than 'one individual' speaking anonymously

not doubting the op but this is the entire story....

WASHINGTON -- A person familiar with President Barack Obama's budget proposal says he wants to cut $2.5 billion from a program that provides home heating assistance to the poor, which would reduce it by half.

Under the proposal, the program known as LIHEAP (LIE'-heep) would drop from $5.1 billion to about $2.5 billion - the 2008 level.

The individual discussed the budget proposal on condition of anonymity because Obama's 2012 spending proposal has not been formally released. The White House plans to send the budget proposal to Congress on Monday.

The individual said energy prices have dropped since spring 2008, when Congress boosted the heating assistance funding to $5.1 billion.

The spending proposal was first reported Wednesday by National Journal.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/20...

[go west young man]

232. Dropped? I don't think so.

Here in Georgia they just went up by an additional 15% as of Jan. 2011.

[Tatiana]

39. Called my Senator's office this morning (Dick Durbin - IL).

Received a vague response when asked whether Senator Durbin supported slashing LIHEAP funding.

I swear, he's so far up this administration's butt, he's near blind. There are so many seniors that this will affect. Some seniors and poor who live in rural areas also receive weatherization assistance through sister programs.

We can bail out the banks, we can give the already wealthy additional tax cuts, but we can't help the poorest among us keep warm during a particularly harsh winter season.

UGH.

[MzShellG]

40. Wow

And Ive been trying to find out how to help an elderly family member get access to that program. Has it been cut yet? Who do you contact?

[cali]

41. It depends where you are.

Here's the LIHEAP home page.

Good luck getting your family member help!

http://www.acf.hhs.gov/programs/ocs/liheap/

[MzShellG]

45. Thanks Cali

I appreciate the info.

[QC]

43. 'If they would rather die,' said Scrooge, 'they had better do it,

and decrease the surplus population."

[patrice]

44. Just speculating: If you wanted "faith-based" charities to step up, this would seem to be one area

in which you could trust them to do the right thing, because there would be no judgment calls as to how to deliver the care, like there would be with things like not-for-profit longterm-care-homes or other services for those who are at risk. With heat, it's either on or off. Not like the questions/judgment-calls that surround dementia care for the financially disadvantaged.

[grahamhgreen]

62. Trust the corporate churches? No thanks.

[patrice]

211. I don't. I was just guessing what the function of such a budget move might be.

I have true experience-based reasons not to trust churches, not the least of which is that they run the major metro-bedroom community/suburban city in which I live.

[WinkyDink]

166. I abominate your premise for its Dickensian nature.

[patrice]

212. Just trying to guess what might be up with such a move. Not sure I approve, But if we must endure

noblese oblige I'd faaaaaaar rather have them just PAYING to keep people appropriately warm or cool, instead of having them build some very expensive byzantine bullshit charitable bureaucracy with lots of extraneous jobs that decides if/when/how the poor receive medical care.

BTW, if we did the right kind of search on the DU, you might just find I was either the first, or a very early adopter, to use the terms ChurchCo & SaintCo.



on edit: spelling

[JuniperLea]

46. Is this really worth the outrage?

"A person familiar with President Barack Obama's budget proposal says he wants to cut $2.5 billion from a program that provides home heating assistance to the poor, which would reduce it by half."

That sounds to me like a mind reader with at least two degrees of separation from Obama.

I'm saving my anger for things that Obama actually does, or doesn't do.

That said, I send email to my local representatives all the time. I'll send one with two points. One being there ought to be a law that prohibits reporting as actual news ridiculousness such as two-generation mind reading information; two being I flat don't want ANY services cut for the poorest of us all.

[katnapped]

49. Yeah you're right

Better off to wait for it to happen then say "Oh well, best we could do...time to move on folks"

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[liberation]

73. Funny, technically you're claiming you can read Obama's mind better.

Yet extremely telling that the possibility of a lot of poor people facing hardship weathering extreme cold weather... does not seem to register in the concern-o-meter of the concern brigade. Wow, just wow.

[Forkboy]

79. And this sums up the problem best of all.

It's not just those against the poor, it's the ones who say they're for them but aren't there when it counts. I've watched this happen for 20+ years now (I know of those who have faced it longer). Juniper is a good person, and I don't want to disparage her at all, yet the poor still face this massive uphill climb because many of those on our side are busy defending the roadblocks, or trying to reframe the issue into a more palatable pill.

[BigBearJohn]

91. Precisely! (nice to have you back FB)

[Forkboy]

93. It'll take me more than a fall to get me to behave,

[DeSwiss]

77. Well I guess.....

Senator John Kerry will look silly for writing this letter today, asking Obama not to cut the program.

[Marr]

150. You're saving your outrage for things he actually does?

Does that mean you will be outraged if he does make these cuts? Or will you have some cute reason why it had to be done and it isn't Obama's fault?

[Knight Hawk]

163. The reason there is so much

outrage ,even though it might turn out to be false,is that so many people sense there is no real passion in Obama for the poor.Based on his previous behavior people feel this could be true.Obama is not black,culturally,emotionally or life experience wise.

[Dragonfli]

229. Nothing he does to screw the poor ever bothers you ; why should this?

I would love to bless you with the gift of sight. The sights seen by those that are could and hungry tonight.
Maybe then you would care more for people than one mans dreamy eyes.

I don't have any use for people with hearts as cold as yours and his.
So you shall now be the third on my list of ignored cold hearted hero bots.




Goodbye

[Catherina]

48. Terrible. Shameful. Outrageous and totally unacceptable. Rec'd n/t

[MissDeeds]

51. I agree, cali

K&R

[niyad]

53. k and r--and the hits just keep on coming.

sadly, nothing he does is surprising me. disgusting, disappointing, but not surprising.

[notadmblnd]

54. when do the rich get to suffer?

[lonestarnot]

57. When we demand to know how many houses they own.

[mike_c]

56. poor people can join the military and kill other poor people on command....

They don't need energy assistance to do that.

[Mimosa]

222. Only they have to be under age 42 to get those great jobs! n/t

[bigwillq]

60. K and R (nt)

[grahamhgreen]

61. Kick. Sick of it.

[kenny blankenship]

64. "Things We Did Instead Of Ending the Wars"

It's going to be a long and sordid list, and this entry gets a shit-colored star next to it.

[Mimosa]

226. ITA, Kenny.

Wars are expensive. Very expensive.

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[PufPuf23]

66. POTUS Obama has been a surprise for many of us that believed in "Change"

I worry that POTUS Obama has made cynics of many young and minority voters that helped put him in office and harmed the Democratic Party as evidenced by the midterms.

Fooled me to strong support and I've been a cynic about politicians since the 60s.

For me the honeymoon was over as soon as POTUS Obama started making appointments.

What a waste of politcal capital and momentum. Very sad.

[metapunditedgy]

203. Political capital wasted, yes. But the liberal VOTERS are still here. And we're angry.

And we've learned a thing or two the last few years.

[glinda]

67. Slap in the face since we just got the letter explaining the program.

[leftstreet]

68. K&R

[WCGreen]

69. It's just dispicable.....

I'm disgusted.

It will break the bank to keep the heat on for AMERICAN CITIZENS so that we can monger was in the middle east...

[deutsey]

70. I haven't been thinking about Obama (aside from disappointment) for a while n/t

[DeSwiss]

72. I started saying what I was thinking.....

...about Obama early-on around January 2009. Mostly I was ignored or held in contempt.


- Now, not so much.....

K&R

[Blue_In_AK]

102. I was saying what I was thinking during the primaries,

and I got scolded for it. I'm not disappointed in Obama because I didn't really expect much, but I do wish he'd prove me wrong once in a while.

[Imagevision]

74. Will MSM's keep a death count?

[Imagevision]

75. SS. disability will be next...

[flvegan]

76. I voted for Kucinich.

[Oilwellian]

82. And this comes out...

within a month after he voted to extend tax cuts for billionaires.

K&R

[nc4bo]

83. +1. nt

[ZombieHorde]

84. I guess we will see on Monday. nt

[Imagevision]

86. I hope there is an alternative to voting for Obama, now I see why they compare him to Bush he

does as he's told...

[Stoic]

87. It's just one sickening day after another with this Administration. n/t

[Odin2005]

88. Now it's Personal. My mom gets this!

[OnyxCollie]

90. Lilly Ledbetter!

[minavasht]

92. Well, global warming

will take care of the problem for a while.
Then we'll need LIACAP (Low Income AC Assistance Program).

[Poboy]

94. Neither can i. In fact, I was censored for saying I'd be censored if I actually DID say something,

lmao.

[RandomThoughts]

95. I can say good and bad things about anyone

I try not to say bad things about people, since that depends on believing the reporting being accurate. I support concepts and if they apply then support the person.

And I think President Obama has a good heart. I think either the reporting is wrong, or he is running the other direction, or someone else is running things.

Just to show I can say something bad about him, I thought his speech to the grade schoolers a year or two ago was a bit condescending, and I also did not like his instinctual bow to the Saudis.

However, I think he has a good heart, and is being limited by someone, or the news stories are not accurate. He has said many good things, and some bad, who hasn't.

I think he should press harder on the banks, and the Clinton group does not serve the country very good as advisers. To many bankers and financiers, they need to clean out that nest.


But mostly I think most of the posts here about what is going on as relayed by the news are not accurate.

I support concepts of less consolidations, and representative governance. Pretty simple from there.

I think he is a mostly good person and like him though, if he does opposite things, I disagree with him on those things.

[Old Codger]

97. WTF

Why not, we bailed out wall street and gave the rich a real break on taxes now we can finish f***ing the bottom 7/8's .Everyone knows what trickles down, it is brown and draws flies...

[Rex]

98. Same here....grumble grumble.

Shit, piss, fuck! Creating more homeless FAMILIES is morally wrong and must be prevented. Just when it is getting colder and colder. WTF are our leaders thinking!? ARE they thinking?

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[DeSwiss]

127. I believe it was Caesar.....

...who needed to beware the Ides of March.

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[DeSwiss]

246. I know. n/t

[Lugnut]

101. I've never said this before.

This is not the "change" I voted for.

[akbacchus_BC]

103. ok, since so much of you are disenchanted with President Obama, do

you have any idea how to make him see reason? Being a key board warrior never effected change. What are you planning to do to change the situation? Am curious!

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[RandomThoughts]

106. Could be.

But the disappointment at some times, and the attempts and sincere energy seems it is more about being in a tough situation.

Here is the problem, and one of the reasons I don't fight people.

It is possible he is a way lefty and is doing way left political stuff and we are not hearing about it.

It is possible he wants to do more lefty, but is trapped by various problems in the system and the fact that not everyone is on the same page.

It is possible he wants to do more lefty but is being maneuvered.

It is possible he is more lefty and is being pushed or threatened by the same made up news stuff seen in many places. If a Glenn Beck CGI can be hocking watches on a shopping network, what else could be happening.

He could be way right.

He could be trying to make the best out of a situation.

Here is the problem with fighting, you would have to blame someone without knowing the exact situation they are in, and without knowing the exact information of what is happening.

So I play music, and support basic concepts, if it applies, it applies. If it doesn't, or if they are in some situation tougher then the one you are in, don't worry about it, because they can only do what they are able to do.


So Clinton, Obama, Bush, I disagree with many things 'reported' that they support, and agree with many, and think some things really should occur, but also know the difficulties in many of those situations.

So people can only do what they can do.

Although whats up with the lack of correction on beer and travel money? that shows there are filters to blame somewhere, and filters are not the people on the news.

Blinded by the Light by Manfred Mann's Earth Band
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eg8cDmi7-U8


Although I still support people in the bars more then most people you see on TV, but know there are many mostly good people on tv also.

Here is the thing, there are very few people in the bars that would not correct the beer and travel money issue, but it seems that same correction is tougher for people that are in some of those traps. Or it is a filter problem.

I figure either they are not in control at all, or they are being phony.

[akbacchus_BC]

109. Random, I can understand where you are coming from but you are

blaming the wrong person for eight years of mismanagement. People expect President Obama to make changes in two years, that is not going to happen, 8 years of fuckery takes twice that long to correct the situation. Just my 2 cents but due to inflation, that is a dollar US!

We can crow until the cows come home, we have to accept that politicians are there for their own aggrandisement, once we vote them in, we are fucked. I really wish there were honest people who run for office, but that is wishful thinking!

[Mimosa]

223. So, why balance budget on the backs of poor people?

The super rich did not need tax cuts. And we don't need to spend money on endless wars, do we?

This is like Bush's third term.

[akbacchus_BC]

107. Sorry, I am not interested in bashing the president of the us with you!

[Forkboy]

108. All your bases are belong to us!

[akbacchus_BC]

110. which ones?

[Forkboy]

114. which ones have you got?

[akbacchus_BC]

117. Do not want to argue with you, always admired you. Let's agree to

disagree for now!

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

256. .

You're a dick.

[whathehell]

269. If you lived here you might be..

[Union Scribe]

285. Here. !!!!!!!

If you run out, you can use some of those.

[leftstreet]

112. If he can't see the reasoning behind heat / poor - he shouldn't be President

It's ridiculous to suggest it is our responsibility to make an elected official "see reason" here.

Good grief

[Ganja Ninja]

132. He doesn't need to see reason, you do.

If a Republican president were doing the same things you'd be up in arms.

And the last time I posted what I "intend to do about it" the mods deleted it.

[TorchTheWitch]

205. [phone]

[woo me with science]

105. Huge kick and recommend.

Heartsick and enraged. Again.

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[EOTE]

135. Respect has to be earned.

I think it's an imbecile who thinks respect is earned merely by holding a position. Once he starts respecting the people who got him elected, maybe that respect will be returned.

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[RandomThoughts]

116. He is not my president.

He is the president of the USA, and the system that was in place at the time of the election.

I am outside of that system until proper correction occurs.

I am due beer and travel money, and many experiences.

He is his own person, as all people should be.

[akbacchus_BC]

118. Shit, he is not your president but you here pom poming! Why?

[RandomThoughts]

120. I am discussing concepts.

I supported the many of the concepts he spoke about, some of the concepts of some in congress.

And I am not cheer leading, I am stating what should be. And explaining my view on that.



Posting here is basically only to remove a final avenue of options. You may not understand that if what should happen does not occur, then society does not exist anyways.

Proving that is as pivotal as anything else.

[JVS]

128. You're accusing another person of "pom poming"?

[QC]

145. The mind reels....

[whathehell]

270. He's not yours either,

why are you?

[ProSense]

115. A post like this is why it's important

to point to facts.

One thing that's occuring is that Stimulus programs are nearing the end of their funding. They end with little fanfare.

The stimulus led to increased funding for many programs, and it's unlikely that these will be continued.

[akbacchus_BC]

119. How is that helpful to the economy, just asking?

[Forkboy]

122. Being poor isn't helpful to the economy.

How do you plan on addressing the issue of poverty, and how it affects our economy?

Just asking?

[ProSense]

154. What exactly are you asking? n/t

[demwing]

144. So if allowing an increase in funding to expire isn't a "Funding Cut"

Then why is allowing a tax cut to expire considered a "Tax Increase"?

President Obama: "What that means is, if Congress doesn’t act by New Year’s Eve, middle-class families will see their taxes go up starting on New Year’s Day. But the last thing we should do is raise taxes on middle-class families."

http://www.accountingtoday.com/news/Obama-Tax-Cuts-Comp...

[ProSense]

157. "Then why is allowing a tax cut to expire considered a 'Tax Increase'?"

Are you seriously comparing the Stimulus to taxes?

The Stimulus was an $787 billion initiative paid out by the government over about 18 months. Did you anticipate that they'd do this every year in addition to the budget?

Taxes impact people's income. The taxes cuts allow them to retain more of their income instead of generating revenues for the governemnt.

Also, what exactly are you advocating: that the taxs cuts should have been allowed to expire? Wouldn't that have made things worse for struggling Americans?

[SwampG8r]

204. dude....

the stimulus came from taxes
seriously....you are defending the bush tax cuts?

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[Hello_Kitty]

225. Cutting LIHEAP assistance will make things worse for struggling Americans.

But hey, the ones making less than $20K a year can help pay for their heat out of their larger paychecks this year due to the payroll tax holiday...

Oh wait, their paychecks will be smaller.

Oh, and since the cuts to LIHEAP aren't really cuts but just an end to funding we can tell them they're just imagining that they're cold! Or that they should remember how much warmer they were back in 2009.

[demwing]

276. I'm not advocating anything other than a little truth in advertising

so - since you didn't answer the first time - I'll ask again:

If allowing an increase in funding to expire isn't a "Funding Cut," then why is allowing a tax cut to expire considered a "Tax Increase"?

[demwing]

287. waiting...

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[pecwae]

124. KNR.

I guess those poor folk just aren't doing their part...unless the part they're required to do includes freezing to death.

[JVS]

129. Dear poor people, I'm sorry I donated money to him. Next time I'll send it to you instead.

[Dragonfli]

231. I think we all should follow your example, he is dancing for the rich; they will pay his bills

All the money we raised for him should have gone to the poor to begin with, now that we know our donations to politicians end in the same policies that starve the poor, we are a little wiser and should know what to do next time.

Sadly, I no longer have money and will be homeless myself in may. Next winter I expect to be my worst since I was homeless at 16.

To think what I wasted on a man who hates me and all other poor and working class folks.
I could have saved that money to have a place a couple more months now, or I could have given it to the poor then, perhaps less would have starved to death.

what a waste
what a waste..

[virtus_contagiosa]

130. Ive stopped blaming Obama...

the American government as a whole is hopelessly corrupt, extremely ignorant and stunningly arrogant. With few exceptions really. Obama does not strike me as particularly smart and very few Washington creeps are. Our government is for sale to the highest bidder...it has nothing to do with leadership or intellect.

Obama is just playing the game. Unfortunately many of us bought the idea that he was not one of them including myself. 2 years later things are now crystal clear...our government is beyond repair and must be torn down.

[CrispyQ]

171. You nailed it.

It's a systemic problem, not a problem with just one elected official - or even 535 officials. We need to address three critical issues if we want our government back: 1) campaign finance reform, 2) electronic voting, 3) the media. Considering the number of non-voters, I don't think the political will is there.

We are fucked.

BTW, welcome to DU.

[crim son]

219. I will always blame the person who chooses to play the game

to the detriment of the American people. If individuals are not held responsible we will never see change; "the system" after all is comprised of individuals, all of whom have something to lose.

[politicasista]

251. Me blames Republicans n/t

[WVRICK13]

131. This Is Only One Service

Obama wants to cut for the poor. He also wants to cut Community Service Block Grants by 50%. The amount of his proposed cuts to programs that serve the poor are a small fraction of the revenue that was lost because he pushed the tax cuts for the wealthy under the guise of saving the cuts for the average citizen. How can a tax cut for everyone make up for pulling the only safety nets remaining out from under our weakest citizens? What worries me is what do I do in 2012? I cannot vote for a Republican, that is just plain stupid. But I cannot, with a clear conscience vote for Obama after this insanity. Then there is the fact that no vote is a Republican vote. I am so confused and hurt about Obamas' lack of humanity. I think Obama is a plant, e.g., someone put in a position by pretending to be someone else or a toxic weed. Neither one are good. I supported this man from day one and gave lots of money that I did not have to spare to support his campaign. I feel cheated and I have buyers remorse. I want Ms. Clinton, at least she is not mean spirited.

[cali]

133. I understand. I'm wrestling with the same thing.

What do I do with my vote in 2012?

[Crop Circle]

138. I know...

Perhaps write in who you think should be president...

Or, as Wavy Gravy put it - NOBODY FOR PRESIDENT.

[Hubert Flottz]

134. Change You can count on...

He just wants to make the GOP happy.

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[cali]

140. no, the dem party isn't as right wing as the repub

party. sadly, it's not even close. and that's why many of us vote for the dems. Of course, I'm lucky, I live in Vermont- which by the way is a fuck of a lot more liberal than the vast majority of YOUR country. Speaking of which, dearie, YOU folks voted in Harper.

And Ron Paul is a racist fuckwad who loves the corporations.

[irislake]

149. Harper is scary but thankfully he does not represent

the majority of Canadians. We have three parties to the left of Harper and they divide up the vote.

Chomsky says that polls show that the great majority of Americans are also left of the presidents they vote in. He calls America a failed state because it does not represent the will of the people. Not by a long shot.

I know Ron Paul is a nut in some important ways but I agree with him about your insane foreign policy and about the Federal Reserve and Wall Street. How would Ron Paul as President be worse than Obama?

I know there are individual states in America that are politically very enlightened. Thank God for that! Likewise in Canada some of our provinces are way left of Harper.

Personally I feel sick about Harper.

[WildEyedLiberal]

156. Then maybe you should work on cleaning your own house

instead of "praying" for America to go down in flames. What a mean-spirited, ugly post.

[irislake]

259. But if you read enough about the terrible suffering caused by your foreign policy all over the world

-- truly heart-breaking stuff. Your government utterly destroyed an ancient and beautiful country. Madeline Albright actually said that the deaths of 500,000 Iraqi children was "worth it" for America's aims. That is just plain EVIL.

I can't begin to list all the horrific war crimes of the American government. Surely you have read Howard Zinn and John Perkins and Noam Chomsky. Who in their right mind would NOT wish the American Empire to go down? What do you need an Empire for? You can't afford your wars.

Economically, if your dollar collapses it will hurt us all. It is already hurting us all. The world wide hunger is a direct result of American economic policies.

Canada? Our history is slightly less unseemly than yours. We weren't as terrible to the Indians. I am ashamed of the present predicament of our First Nations People and there are too many poor. But we sheltered slaves that fled across the border to Canada and even chased slave owners right back over the border if they tried to recapture them. Our history is slightly less violent.

We refused to go into Iraq but alas we are in Afghanistan I think NATO is wrong.

What evil to bail out those bankers and cut off subsidies for the poor! I can tell you that an act like that would be out-and-out political suicide for our PM. He would do something like that if he could get away with it but believe me he could not. It would be front page news in every Canadian newspaper and he would be dead meat!

As far as being mean-spirited don't take it personally. There are lots of Americans who want the Empire to crash and burn. Symbolically. Lucky for you it won't be physical shock and awe or collateral death by drones seeking "terrorists". But I stick to my belief that the worst terrorists on this planet are the American government.

[inna]

279. Thank you for bringing a dose of (non-American-centrist) reality into this thread.

Much appreciated; in fact this is the most refreshing and unconventionally insightful post I've see seen here in a while.



Never underestimate the gullibility of the American people and the power of corporate propaganda; I don't think any another nation has been subjected to such extent (and sophistication) of brainwashing.

[laundry_queen]

280. +1

Evidence of American exceptionalism propaganda is evident even here at DU.

[Mosaic]

141. It would be nice

if President Obama was our Democratic Socialist Hero we so long want and we all need. The truth is stranger than fiction.

[MasonJar]

142. And in a winter of immense cold. But don't forget he wants to extend the

Patriot Act until 2013.

[Marr]

146. Gotta pay for those tax cuts for the wealthy.

[aquamarina]

147. I sent the White House and email about this today.

I let it rip - I am so disgusted by this latest sell-out. And I don't care if it's just a trial balloon the fact that it's even being considered makes me sick. One of the harshest winters on record and someone in the White House wants to turn the heat off. Unbelievable.

[CLANG]

151. But you got to admit he shoots a hell of a 3-pointer!

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[dcsmart]

152. stick the poor in workhouses...the heat is on there.

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[tweeternik]

160. This post and most of the comments here are pathetically sad .....

It's very easy to be critical .... actual governing is another issue. Do y'all think for an instant Obama doesn't share a heartfelt desire to aide the less fortunate in our society? Aren't you witnessing the unbelievably hostile political envirnoment that has to be navigated? Enjoy the keyboard warfare ... and at least TRY to walk for awhile in the President's shoes.

[woo me with science]

161. Obama is the victim here?

[ProSense]

172. President Obama isn't the victim. Still,

vile is vile.

This report was bound to generate outrage, but it's still an unconfirmed report. In some instances, the reaction has been ugly.

[woo me with science]

173. It's definitely vile to freeze old people to death. nt

[ProSense]

175. Well,

since that isn't happening, the hyperbole qualifies as ugly.

HHS releases $200 million in emergency funding to states for energy assistance

U.S. Department of Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius announced today the release of $200 million in emergency contingency funding to help eligible low-income homeowners and renters meet home energy costs. These Low-Income Home Energy Assistance Program (LIHEAP) contingency funds will provide states, territories, tribes and the District of Columbia with additional assistance to pay heating and other home energy costs.

“During the cold winter months, heating your home becomes more than a matter of comfort,” said Sebelius. “The release of these emergency funds will help low-income families and individuals afford the high energy costs rather than force them to make cutbacks on other essentials.”

LIHEAP helps eligible families pay for home heating, cooling and other energy costs, as well as helping to weatherize eligible families’ homes.

The $200 million in emergency contingency funds released today are in addition to the basic LIHEAP funding made available to states under the continuing resolutions since October 1 totaling $3.9 billion for Fiscal Year 2011.

“Low-income individuals and families are hit hard by energy costs,” said David A. Hansell, HHS acting assistant secretary for children and families. “We are releasing these emergency funds to states to help meet the critical needs of vulnerable children, seniors and families.”

For a complete listing of state allocations of funds released today go to: http://www.acf.hhs.gov/news/press/2011/fy11_liheap_fund... .

[woo me with science]

178. That link does not help the President.

Ignoring what the NYT has now confirmed, and pretending that actual human beings will not suffer if Obama gets what he wants here is simply underscoring the problem: It is a morally bankrupt position.

[ProSense]

181. More

"Ignoring what the NYT has now confirmed, and pretending that actual human beings will not suffer if Obama gets what he wants"

...hyperbole.

[woo me with science]

184. Hang in there, Prosense.

It's a shame the Post and the NYTimes keep publishing such inconvenient information.

[ProSense]

185. "It's a shame the Post and the NYTimes keep publishing such inconvenient information."

The only published document that will contain all the facts is the actual budget.

[woo me with science]

187. Yeah, what the President publicly asks for is totally irrelevant.

It's cute when he talks about taking heat from poor people.

[ProSense]

190. Did the President issue a statement?

His budget is totally relevant. It's due out on Monday.

[woo me with science]

191. He made a request, documented by major news organizations.

But that was a very CLEVER rhetorical trick you just did there!

I am sure it convinced many people!

[ProSense]

193. He made a request?

When?

[woo me with science]

196. Yup. That's the word coming from inside the administration,

and reported by multiple news sources. He is requesting a slash not only in heating assistance, but in block grants for impoverished communities.

We can only hope that enough OUTRAGE is generated by the news of this plan to stop it from appearing in the final budget. That he would request this in the first place is despicable.

Except you could be right, and they are making it all up!

[SwampG8r]

207. wow a whole 4 million a state what generosity

[ProSense]

210. " 4 million a state " Actually,

it's a little more complicated than that: NY got nearly $500 million.

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[ProSense]

179. You have no idea what he proposed

since the budget isn't out yet. It's one thing to be outraged by the report, but another thing entirely to claim that the proposal is a set in stone. Claiming that the President wants to make "poor people suffer and likely die" is hyperbole.

As for this: "If he felt that, he'd propose cuts that don't inordinately burden the most disadvantaged. He has NOT."

And you know this based on a couple of reports? The budget is a huge document filled with a lot of proposals, and if it's anything like his last budget proposals, it will be well-thought out.

The budget is due out Monday, and even then there will be months of debate. Everyone will weigh in, including Republicans.

[tweeternik]

182. Ahhh ...

the voice of reason! Thank you!

[woo me with science]

197. They made it all up!

He would NEVER do such a thing!

[tweeternik]

180. Well then here's something else to make you sick ...

you are incredibly short-sighted in your thinking. This is a long term "game". The utopian state we desire will not be achieved overnight. Patience .... don't pick up and run with very proposal you find objectional.

[cali]

186. lol. thanks for playing with your little straw man

my disappointment with this administration is cumulative. I don't think, I'm short sighted. I think you're blind.

[tweeternik]

194. Of course you do ....

so sorry. such a waste. but keep flaming! it suits you. And good luck with your next administation of choice. maybe you can elect someone more in line with your idealism. talk about "lol"!!!

[piratefish08]

188. let's hope his heartfelt warm wishes keep people from freezing to death this winter.

I bet those who gained from Wall Streets new record profits will be warm at night.

[City Lights]

162. Ditto. My pizza would be delivered.

And I'm not hungry at the moment.

[WinkyDink]

164. Well, the Re-Elect Promo should be interesting.

[piratefish08]

167. Bush Version 3.0

[Renew Deal]

169. That's about as idiotic as it gets.

[Renew Deal]

168. Obama is killing people

[Jefferson23]

174. If he really wants to do this there needs to be an explanation, morally as

well as fiscally this proposal is wrong. The contingency fund would allow him to help some people in a crisis
situation, true, but there is no reason to pull out the kind of money he is suggesting in the first place.

I want to know WHY the fuck he is even considering impacting this population, the entire premise of
placing such a primary focus on the debt is bullshit.

I reject this nonsense, Joseph Stiglitz and other respected economists have laid out the reasoning very
well against this for some time now.

I have no reason to trust Obama's actions if he in fact continues to pursue this horrific approach to governing,
when the hell is it going to stop?


The Dangers of Deficit Reduction
http://www2.gsb.columbia.edu/faculty/jstiglitz/download...

America's Socialism for the Rich
http://www2.gsb.columbia.edu/faculty/jstiglitz/download...

[woo me with science]

176. You are right. It is morally bankrupt. This is a MORAL issue. nt

[Autumn]

189. Let's all call the White House and all our reps. Just like we did

on single payer or public option, tax breaks for the rich, and ending the wars. That will work. Yeah that's the ticket. I am so sick of this shit.

[somone]

192. It's gone from disappointing to despicable

But one must always speak up. Silence is acquiescence.

[MsPithy]

195. But, but, but, you don't undersaaaaand!

Obama just didn't haaaaave the voooootes!!! Oh, wait.

[katnapped]

201. And the Republicans would've suggested WORSE!

So be glad that's all you lost!

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[Avant Guardian]

199. CBO says getting rid of Bush tax cuts would balance the budget

It's that simple. Obama only cares about placating republicans.

[Bunny]

202. If this is true, and it looks like it could be, then I don't know the words

that could accurately express my disgust with Obama. Those words probably don't exist in the English language.

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[cali]

215. Tell it to Senator Kerry. He's outraged.

[EFerrari]

228. I can't afford to rend my garments.

It's cold and there's no heat in this room.

lol

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[BetsysGhost]

213. wait until

they start attacking you with their deep state weapons and "observing" you through your TV.

Right laugh now folks, for soon you cry.

[patrice]

227. They already did. They already won. That's why EVERYONE is the way they are, so now the

question is what to do about it.

[Shagbark Hickory]

214. Was this Obamas idea or was it done by congress?

One must remember the potus really isn't as powerful a position as people think.
The balance of powers and corruption keeps the downward conservative trajectory of the nations policies more or less constant.

[patrice]

216. If we MUST endure "faith-based" initiatives, I'd rather they did this than be deciding the level of

medical care the poor receive.

[russspeakeasy]

218. Don't forgive, don't forget.

[patrice]

224. Oh, now THERE'S good advice, from the perfect, for the perfect.

Not.

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[kgnu_fan]

233. Opposite of what is happening in Egypt -- We need to stand up!

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[historylovr]

235. Rec'd. There really are no words . . .

Well, not polite ones, anyway.

[howaboutme]

236. Meanwhile Kucinich on CSPAN gets unrec'd

I'm not sure where we stand anymore. More importantly what do Democratic leaders believe is important

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

[Suji to Seoul]

239. Sanders/Kucinich 2012!

Dean/Sanders 2012!
Dean/Kucinich 2012!

[totodeinhere]

244. Be realistic. As much as I would love to see that, it won't happen in a million years.

We are stuck with either Obama or a tea bagger.

[demwing]

288. delete

[Suji to Seoul]

237. I can say it, but it would get my post deleted if I did.

I am loyal to ideology, not party and I am no longer believing a word this man says.

"Change we can believe in" turned into "Bend Over and See How It Feels. . .with Sandpaper!"

[truedelphi]

238. And where has the energy we all have at our fingertips originally come from?

It comes from the dead and dying in the "Gaslands" of much of the USA. People who took up the regional energy companies call to action, and signed some papers and then found derricks for natural gas on their property, along with at least 580 chemicals that are toxic, carcinogenic or neurological disturbing agents.

Our energy comes from the coal companies, that had their representatives go off to swindle the Appalachian land owners. The Appalachian families signed off on selling their mineral rights, way back in the late seventeen hundreds and early eighteen hundreds. For less than a keg of moon shine, Kentucky and Tennessee families gave up their rights in perpetuity in order to have a few dollars more. So now people who have watched the big mining firms blast a gazillion bucks of coal from their property - they can't drink the water and the crops they grow are tainted. The coal in those hills made everyone but those who actually should be the owners of the land rich.

This is a crying shame. One thinks of Jefferson, and his decree that:

"If the American people ever allow private banks
to control the issue of their money,
first by inflation and then by deflation,
the banks and corporations that will
grow up around them (around the banks),
will deprive the people of their property
until their children will wake up homeless
on the continent their fathers conquered."

And the Clinton/Bush/Obama Administrations have really bent over backwards to see to it that the corporations are allowed to fulfill Thomas Jefferson's prophesy.

[Tarc]

240. Ahh, cali

Do you wish now that you'd come over to the Hillary side back in the GD: Presidential forum heyday?

[patrice]

247. ? None of this changes what HC is/did. Even if it IS "gone" now, the DLC IS the DLC.

wow.

[eridani]

286. They're both pro-corporation

The only advantace I can see to Hillary from the current perspective is that at least she would have understood that the rightwing whackjobs would be actually after her.

[Marr]

291. Hillary is IN his fucking cabinet, for crying out loud.

And you think she'd be any different? There's a reason these two stooges were proclaimed "the viable candidates" on the Democratic side even before a single primary vote was held.

[bonnieS]

241. I am beyond angry

Do the rich not have enough? How can we get them more? Will killing some poor people help them out?

Interesting, the Repubs want all babies born , but are cutting care for mothers and babies out of their proposals for a budget, while Obama cuts heat. So the babies are born , the parents get to love them, then they die from no food or warmth. Goal achieved!

The cemetery owners and obstetricians must have larger lobbies than we knew.

We live in Scroogeworld.

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[delightfulstar]

250. Those nasty "Compassionate Conservatives"....

Making America suffer since God Knows When.

And Obama is lying in bed with them...I didn't know we were supposed to choose the lesser of the two Rethug sympathizers. I thought he had a (D) by his name, and that he wanted "change." "Fool me once, shame on you - fool me twice, shame on me," as they say. I don't plan to vote for him in the primaries next year...we need someone in the WH who actually gives a damn.

[newtothegame]

252. INTERGALACTIC CHESS. NT

[Marnie]

253. Kill a few aerabs. Kill a few poe fok. What's the diff

Spend a few trillion to kill a few aerabs.

Save a few million and kill a few poe fok to balance out.

What's the diff?

I mean, it's finding a middle ground, ain't it?

Does Obama realize that it can get minus 20-50 degrees in a lot of areas in this country?

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[sasha031]

257. life just feels like a continuation of the bush yrs

[BrklynLiberal]

267. THAT is the worst part of all of this.........

The incredible disappointment after such high expectations....

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[Fire Walk With Me]

261. Isn't this an example of something forced by Republicans?

To fight the Republican destruction of the country, perhaps this is a very loud warning and call to such disgust, to provoke unity AGAINST such Republican bullshit.

[libmom74]

263. not very "democratic" is it?

[Robeson]

271. Whether big D or small d, this country hasn't been democratic for quite some time.

[KatyBR]

264. READ CAREFULLY->THIS PROGRAM IS A SUBSIDY TO GAS INDUSTRY

>snip<Critics say that the program is poorly administered and that, contrary to intentions, it’s become a subsidy for energy companies, most of whom are prohibited by law from turning off services to delinquent bill-payers during weather emergencies. About 10 percent of LIHEAP funds are transferred to “weatherization” programs, according to a government study.

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266. What a revolting development this is......

[indepat]

273. The little people, including the poor, elderly, and frail, had just as well tighten their belts,

turn down the furnace, and learn to like cat-food in the aftermath of the tax cuts for the wealthy being made permanent for all practical purposes, because the defense/industrial complex, large corporations, including the banksters, and the wealthy must/will be taken care of at the expense of everything else if pubs are to have their way, as they have on almost every issue for more than ten year (and just look what has happened to the national debt in that ten years).

[StarsInHerHair]

281. if I did I'd get an instant tombstone, but I hope someone close to him says

it and it snaps him out of the GOPs hold.

[devilgrrl]

282. Some "Socialist" huh?

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

284. Error: you can only recommend threads which were started in the past 24 hours

[demwing]

289. Once, we had a slogan "The Audacity of Hope"...

but that was soon replaced by the Austerity of Nope.

When we cried out, we were told we had developed the Propensity of Mope!

Now I, for one, am at the end of my Linearity of Rope,

And in the end, sadly, I think understand the true Audacity of Hope.