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WillParkinson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-11 08:02 PM
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AFA: Native Americans Are Morally Disqualified To Own Land Because They Have Rejected Jeebus
American Family Association: Native Americans Are Morally Disqualified To Own Land Because They Have Rejected Jeebus

According to the American Family Association, Native Americans are "morally disqualified from sovereign control of American soil" because they rejected early efforts to impose Christianity upon them. Bryan Fischer explains:

The native American tribes ultimately resisted the appeal of Christian Europeans to leave behind their superstition and occult practices for the light of Christianity and civilization. They in the end resisted every attempt to “Christianize the Savages of the Wilderness,” to use George Washington’s phrase. They rejected Washington’s direct counsel to the Delaware chiefs in 1779, “You do well to wish to learn our arts and ways of life, and above all, the religion of Jesus Christ.” Thomas Jefferson three times signed legislation appropriating federal tax dollars for the evangelizing of the Native American tribes. It all came to nought, as one tribe after another rejected the offer of spiritual light and advanced civilization. God warned the ancient nation of Israel not to lapse into the abominable practices of the native peoples “lest the land vomit you out...as it vomited out the nation that was before you” (Lev. 18:28). Time eventually ran out for the Canaanites, because they filled up the full measure of their iniquity. Time ran out for the native American tribes for the same reason.

According to Fischer, even 21st century Native Americans have no moral right to what little land they still have: "Many of the tribal reservations today remain mired in poverty and alcoholism because many native Americans continue to cling to the darkness of indigenous superstition instead of coming into the light of Christianity and assimilating into Christian culture."

http://joemygod.blogspot.com/2011/02/american-family-association-native.html
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-11 08:05 PM
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1. You mean, like priests raping little boys?
That "Christian" culture?!?
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chemenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 07:56 AM
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26. The American Family Association is not affiliated with the Catholic Church
so, as a fallen-away Catholic, please refrain from the one-size-fits-all "priests raping little boys" reference. It is "Catholic-specific." .

The American Family Association is one of those ultra-repressive ultra-Fundie Conservative Christian (likely Southern Baptist) Religious Organizations that want to impose their monstrous religiousity on to all of American society by their political activism.

And they are only demonstrating how pathetically ludicrous they are ... a culture that has revered Mother Earth and lived in harmony with the land for generations has no moral claims to the land because they have not embraced JEEZUS and yet the KKKristians, because they have accepted JEEZUS do have a moral claim to the land and they rape, pillage, plunder then walk away leaving destruction and desolation (think mountaintop removal mining techniques).

What a bunch of fucking assholes.
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 05:21 PM
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31. You'd be surprised...
A lot of Protestant clergy have been accused of going after young kids, too. I say "priest," but you can easily extrapolate that to any paid minister or cleric within the Christian faith.
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 06:36 PM
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32. Exactly! It's not just the Catholics.
Google "Baptists" and "sex abuse." You may be surprised at the scope of the scandal -- and the cover-up, including allegations that that certain pastors of "super-churches" covered up scandals in their own congregations.

Or maybe you won't be surprised.

Bake
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-11 08:05 PM
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2. What century is this again?
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-11 08:07 PM
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3. "Family"
'Nuff said.
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OmahaBlueDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-11 08:08 PM
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4. That news will come as a Helluva shock to Red Cloud School Alumni
Note: The Red Cloud School is a Catholic High School on the Pine Ridge Rez

http://www.redcloudschool.org/
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Kennah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-11 08:08 PM
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5. What if they embrace Aqua Buddha?
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-11 11:00 PM
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23. They cannot have title to land
Only water.
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StarsInHerHair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-11 08:10 PM
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6. AFA is garbage & should be viewed as an illegitimate cult
nt
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NotThisTime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-11 08:31 PM
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16. +1000
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-11 08:57 PM
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22. agreed. and its Jesus. Jesus would be with the Indians. These people
are evil and don't have a damned clue. don't blame jesus for this.
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RegieRocker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-11 08:11 PM
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7. It's their land you fucking thief!
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MattBaggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 03:24 PM
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29. Nope it seems that if your neighbor rejects your fables
you now have the right to kill them and take their property. Looks like I'm gettin me an in ground.
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-11 08:11 PM
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8. Why would you blame them?
Only those given to Jesus by the father can come to him (where collector doctrine is from)

It is not their fault. To blame them does not make sense.

Blinded by the Light by Manfred Mann's Earth Band
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eg8cDmi7-U8
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Scruffy1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-11 08:13 PM
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9. I'm going to burn some sage
To drive the evil spirits out and make a tobacco sacrifice to Wasicu Win, the best Christian I ever knew.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-11 08:15 PM
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10. I know a lot of Native Americans and most are Christians. Maybe they want
to try again? F*cking backwards racists at the AFA!
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-11 08:15 PM
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11. Only the Xtian superstitions are allowed
Will these morons STFU. :puke:
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-11 08:18 PM
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12. Arkana: AFA Morally Disqualified From Drawing Oxygen From Atmosphere Because They Are Massive Tools
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-11 08:20 PM
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13. wow, another new low
Of course, neither the historical ignorance nor the bigotry is particularly surprising coming from the AFA.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-11 08:24 PM
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14. Hundreds of years and this is all they can show for it.
Makes you want to weep at the ignorance.
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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-11 08:29 PM
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15. Can people please forward this to the Tribes all over the Country. I think they
Edited on Tue Feb-08-11 08:29 PM by glinda
should see this. Especially since it would help explain the assault on their lives and traditions in recent years.
I am going to forward this to a few.
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-11 08:32 PM
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17. Eat my shit !
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nebenaube Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-11 08:34 PM
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18. Fine, I'll just settle for scalps then... n/t
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-11 08:35 PM
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19. The AFA is repulsive.. hatred and bigotry writ large. . n/t
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ShadowLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-11 08:38 PM
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20. In other words, whoever wields the biggest sword is the most moral & has the truest god
In other words, their racism and historical argument is basically whoever has the most military strength is morally superior no matter how awful they behave, no matter how many people they murder in the name of their god(s).

In that case the AFA ought to get ready to become atheists in the next few decades at the rate that China's economic power is increasing, since economic power can easily cripple military power (China's government is anti-organized religion, hence why by the AFA's logic we should become atheists).
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-11 08:39 PM
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21. OMG
Why does that surprise me so much? I should expect it but it still just :wow: .
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-11 11:15 PM
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24. I guess I'm morally disqualified to own land according to the AFA.
Because I left behind superstition and occult practices, specifically the Christian superstition and occult practices, making me one of them dirty atheists.
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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 06:46 PM
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36. same here
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 04:33 AM
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25. Sure


You can ask the Tsalagi and the Haudenosaunee how well gettin' "Chrischyun-ized" worked out for them.

Do these goons even read history before they make it up?


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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 08:00 AM
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27. The AFA is morally disqualified to make pronouncements in Jesus's name.
Since if they really were Christians instead of hypocritical loudmouths, they would be practicing what they allegedly preach.
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 03:19 PM
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28. Agreed. Scum, every one of them.
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Duncan Grant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 04:40 PM
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30. Clearly, "selective morality" rots your brain.
I can't recall when I've read a more offensive (and depressing) screed. These family/traditional values types are a black hole on so many levels...
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piedmont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 06:39 PM
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33. Whatever helps them sleep at night, I guess.
:eyes:
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 06:43 PM
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34. Even before Bryan Fischer's name was mentioned, I knew that this was his handiwork
The man is psychotic.
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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 06:45 PM
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35. What a bunch of fucking fascists.
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ohheckyeah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 06:48 PM
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37. Here's a thought...
fuck Fischer and the AFA.
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Mopar151 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 06:51 PM
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38. I am of 2 minds here about AFA
If this is a new all-time low for these losers, it's f'n pitiful. If this is not a new low, it's goddam pathetic!
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 07:02 PM
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39. It just does not end with these crazed cultists
So tired of them all with the yepping. They need to find honest work.
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