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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-11 12:31 AM
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NYC educator blog sounds off. A beautiful rant. NYC teachers and parents feel righteous anger.
Here is the video of the NYC school chancellor, Cathie Black, putting down a group of parents who wanted to keep their schools from being closed. It's an arrogant moment on her part.

Here is a link to the video. Her words are about 1 minute 40 seconds in.

Here are the words from the article:

Eventually, the crowd demanded that School Chancellor Cathie Black speak, and she did, for the first time all night.

"I cannot speak if you are shouting.... We have studied these very difficult proposals for the better part of two years. It has been an extremely difficult process," said Black.


In the video when she said that the crowd went Ohhhhhh, and she responded with the face you see in the picture and said a snide "ohhhhhh" back to them. Very childish of a CEO in charge of the schools of a big city. Petty, in fact.

The NYC Educator blog tells about this meeting. It is most descriptive.

The party's over.


A still from the video of Cathie Black speaking down to the crowd

The first speaker was an unforgettable Tony Avella, the NY State Senator elected with the UFT's help. Tony was the only Democrat in the state to beat a sitting Republican, and he asked why on earth a hearing over Jamaica High School's future would be in Brooklyn rather than Queens. Of course it was to keep the community out, as they're always raising nasty objections about their neighborhood being decimated---not to mention other things Cathie Black and Michael Bloomberg don't wish to be bothered with.

I've no doubt Cathie Black's snappy remarks about birth control or Nazis murdering children go over very well at ritzy cocktail parties. Doubtless she's shocked that public school parents, the ones who don't get invited to fetes in Park Avenue penthouses, don't seem to find them that funny. And the juvenile "Ooooohhhh" with which she greeted their concerns about the future of their children the other night did not go over that well either.

I walked out, along with most of the crowd, reluctant to watch the Mayor Bloomberg's odious and utterly undemocratic PEP do their rubber stamp thing. What on earth was NYC thinking when it determined the best thing for the future of its children was to turn it over to the richest man in New York City, so that he could do whatever the hell he felt like with them?


And the anger there was said to be very strong.

Here's the thing--I've never seen anger like this before, even at these meetings. It's palpable. Several speakers made references to Egypt, rising up against tyranny. Mayoral dictatorship is a bad policy and must end. And absolutely everyone at the meeting last night could see that New York City has had just about enough of it.


They voted to close 10 schools. It was a done deal, and the people felt those on the panel were only pretending to listen.

The New York Daily News wrote about this meeting. The reporter seemed alarmed as well.

Bloomberg talks down to parents, teachers and students fighting for lives of their schools

"This is not democracy, letting people yell and scream."

No, that was not Hosni Mubarak talking about the demonstrators in Egypt. That was Mike Bloomberg talking about the parents, teachers and students who turned raucous at two meetings preceding a rubberstamp vote to close 22 schools.

How does Bloomberg propose NOT to let them yell and scream in an actual democracy? Eject them? Lock them up? Bloomberg went so far as to say they had embarrassed their city, their state, even their nation.

He did not seem to consider that they were roused to fury by much the same feeling that rouses the protesters in Cairo. This is the sense that whatever you say in more reasonable tones will be ignored.


The NY Daily News spoke of one of the parents who pointed out that Cathie Black was on her blackberry, not even listening.

"Not one person on the panel was actually listening," said Charm Rhoomes, who was there Thursday night as the mother of a student at Jamaica High School and the president of its PTA. "Even Cathie Black. She was on her BlackBerry."

.."Had they bothered, the minions on the stage would have had no trouble hearing Rhoomes as she spoke with a Caribbean lilt of her son, who never misses school and gets good grades and was so thrilled when he was admitted to college-level math. He attended one class only to be told at the second that it had been dropped from the curriculum because the teacher had been cut. He would still love to have college math, but he does not want to lose the school where he has worked so hard. "He still loves the school," she said.


The parents cared enough to come and wait for hours to speak and to listen. They are fighting for their public schools and being ignored and treated badly.



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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-11 12:35 AM
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1. Black hasn't been there for two years
What a dishonest statement on her part.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-11 12:38 AM
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2. I thought the same thing. She just got there.
Using the "we" was a mistake on her part.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-11 02:07 AM
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3. An interesting comment on the plight of teachers now.
"If you work hard, play by the rules, you can rise as far as your talents take you until you cost too much, and then we'll fire you!"

-Leonie Haimson, parodying Mayor Bloomberg

http://nyceducator.com/2011/02/partys-over.html

That is just about right.
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-11 12:56 PM
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10. +100000
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erodriguez Donating Member (532 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-11 10:33 PM
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22. I just spent the evening with Leonie, Diane Ravitch and other parents and educators who are
pushing back.

We need to organize and fight.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-11 11:13 PM
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23. I envy you. What a treat that would be.
Getting teachers to really organize is hard because they get marked down on evaluations. That's a problem. Too many principals like to keep teachers scared of them.
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roxiejules Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 10:04 AM
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33. Great quote
...and so true.
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snot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-11 03:21 AM
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4. K&R'd
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-11 04:24 AM
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5. k&r
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-11 09:48 AM
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6. .....
Thank you. And a kick from me cause it just disappeared.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-11 12:51 PM
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7. Cathie Black's comment about birth control....not funny to the public school parents.
I think her attitude is showing.

http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/education/2011/01/14/2011-01-14_parents_not_laughing_at_schools_chancellor_cathie_blacks_birth_control_overcrowd.html

"Schools Chancellor Cathie Black joked that there's a simple solution to overcrowding in lower Manhattan - birth control.

"Could we just have some birth control for a while?" Black said Thursday night. "It would really help us."

Black earned chuckles for the joke at an overcrowding task force meeting, but downtown parents say the growing population of youngsters is no laughing matter.

"I always cringe when I hear that (joke)," said Public School 234 parent Tricia Joyce. "I understand the temptation to joke about it. But our situation isn't funny any more."

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/education/2011/01/14/2011-01-14_parents_not_laughing_at_schools_chancellor_cathie_blacks_birth_control_overcrowd.html#ixzz1DISDbMXW
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-11 12:56 PM
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9. What a bitch.
She needs to resign.
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-11 04:00 PM
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14. x a million
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smirkymonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-11 05:37 PM
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17. She and Bloomberg are two of the most arrogant jerks in NYC.
All I can think of is "Let them eat cake".
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-11 07:29 PM
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20. That is their attitude.
They look down condescendingly.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-11 04:14 PM
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15. Pity Bloomie went to such trouble to bend the rules to get her in there.
Looks like all that hard work's gonna go to waste by summer at the latest.
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-11 12:55 PM
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8. Wow, I have been to some very animated school board meetings over the years...
in my experience when you refuse to let the people vent or continuously vote against their wishes, you get your ass handed to you at the voting booth. If it's egregious enough you get sued.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-11 03:15 PM
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11. Those people know the decisions to close the schools have already been made.
And they know they were not given any input. That's the way our country is becoming now in most ways. The decisions are made in spite of what was said during campaigns.

We appear to have one party now...one big effing party.
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-11 03:50 PM
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13. Those are the worst kind...
a bit like our nearby city's meetings, where they do open mike just for show and their biz-buddies have already rec'd the no-bid contracts and everybody's pockets are full. That's a republican-controlled city (with the mayor who promised to run it like a business).
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-11 03:32 PM
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12. recommend
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perdita9 Donating Member (408 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-11 04:52 PM
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16. NYC voted for Bloomberg
And they're surprised he's turning the schools over to corporate interests? That's pretty naive on their parts.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-11 09:37 PM
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21. Well, remember Arne Duncan was pushing the mayoral control.
And a lot of people trusted him because Obama appointed him. He spent a lot of time there working to get that control for Bloomberg. It is one of Arne's main goals...mayoral control.

But you are right, I think the people should have known and were impressed with his wealth and celebrity.
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Reader Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-11 05:44 PM
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18. Jeebus, this is obscene.
The divide between rich and poor is so big that they don't even see us as people. We're just things to them.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-11 05:53 PM
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19. That seems to be true now.
It's really showing up in the field of education now.

Gonna get worse in Florida, too.

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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-11 11:21 PM
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24. K&R
WTF is going on in NYC?
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-11 12:29 AM
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25. is this the beginning of the end of privatization of public ed?
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-11 03:11 AM
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27. One can only hope. nt
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-11 12:28 PM
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29. maybe the teacher-bashing rings hollow with parents who meet actual teachers
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-11 03:11 PM
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30. First "Superman" flops at the academy awards and now this.
Is that a light I see at the end of this tunnel?
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-11 03:22 PM
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31. I hadn't thought of that Academy Award angle! Nice thought.
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teacher gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-11 02:41 AM
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26. Here's a little about Cathie Black's
Edited on Tue Feb-08-11 02:44 AM by teacher gal
"qualifications" to lead a million school children:

http://edn­otesonline­.blogspot.­com/2011/0­1/cathie-b­lack-soft-­core-porno­grapher.ht­ml

Now, do you think Bloomberg's selection of her for Chancellor was for the purpose of doing what is best for school children? Or was it a huge slap in the face to those parents and teachers who actually believe in public education?

The disrespect is profound.

Public education doesn't mean squat to Bloomberg OR Black except to exploit it and undermine it. They don't need it. They're wealthy and as far removed from the lives of ordinary people as they can be.

Editing to say:
Uh-oh, I think my links aren't working. I'll try this: http://www.schoolsmatter.info/2011/01/why-bloomberg-picked-cathy-black-larry.html

If that doesn't work, just Google Cathie Black and soft-core porn
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blackspade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-11 10:34 AM
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28. Gotta love the big business infiltration of our school systems,
And politics, and every other damn thing these days.
It's like the idea that business can fix everything is some faith based religion.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-11 10:29 PM
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32. And the profit figures in as well.
The corporate world has been getting their hands into the public schools for years, but now they are going at it full speed.
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 02:40 PM
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34. K&R thanks for posting!
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