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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-03-11 11:42 AM Original message |
So, days after Obama sends special envoy Frank Wisner to Egypt, the beatings begin? |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-03-11 11:58 AM Response to Original message |
1. Mubarak is trying to reject the US's and the world's demand that he leave. |
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dennis4868 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-03-11 11:59 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. He agreed to step... |
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kenny blankenship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-03-11 12:01 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. Nobody expected him to run in September and he hadn't announced he was running previously |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-03-11 12:25 PM Response to Reply #7 |
13. True /nt |
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dennis4868 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-03-11 04:57 PM Response to Reply #7 |
38. The guy was going to be leader until he died... |
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Matariki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-03-11 08:16 PM Response to Reply #3 |
46. From an Egyptian blogger on him actually stepping down: |
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Brother Buzz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-03-11 12:03 PM Response to Reply #1 |
9. I don't disagree |
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dennis4868 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-03-11 11:58 AM Response to Original message |
2. Are you actually saying that Obama's |
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robdogbucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-03-11 12:00 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. Envoy? |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-03-11 12:01 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. I don't think so... |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-03-11 01:45 PM Response to Reply #2 |
16. No, just presenting the timeline, and a brief history of the envoy chosen. |
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snooper2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-03-11 02:11 PM Response to Reply #16 |
24. I think we should get some truthy on this |
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dennis4868 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-03-11 04:58 PM Response to Reply #24 |
39. Truth on Obama on DU? |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-03-11 12:00 PM Response to Original message |
4. Yes. Obama sent Wisner to Egypt to order the beatings to commence...nt |
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Ikonoklast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-03-11 12:24 PM Response to Reply #4 |
12. And some actually believe that. |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-03-11 04:52 PM Response to Reply #4 |
37. Why Wisner? Why not Jimmy Carter? |
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pearl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-03-11 12:01 PM Response to Original message |
8. Give me a fu**ing break. |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-03-11 12:09 PM Response to Original message |
10. I've been a pretty big critic of Obama but this accusation is too much. |
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justiceischeap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-03-11 12:12 PM Response to Original message |
11. I think there's 1 tie between Wisner and the Violence... |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-03-11 12:35 PM Response to Original message |
14. The weakness of the U.S response clearly emboldened Mubarak |
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JoePhilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-03-11 01:51 PM Response to Reply #14 |
19. And when he doesn't step down, we invade?? |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-03-11 04:42 PM Response to Reply #19 |
33. Obama can simply suggest Mubarak step down now |
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chimpymustgo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-03-11 01:51 PM Response to Reply #14 |
20. The question is - was it a deliberate move by Obama or a fuck-up. Methinks the former. |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-03-11 02:09 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. I share your uncertainty |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-03-11 04:46 PM Response to Reply #20 |
34. Good point. He met with the neo-cons, not Jimmy Carter. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-03-11 02:41 PM Response to Reply #14 |
29. Agree... Robert Fisk said Obama administration response "gutless" and "cowardly" --- |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-03-11 12:42 PM Response to Original message |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-03-11 01:46 PM Response to Original message |
17. of for fuck's sake. |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-03-11 01:51 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. Right |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-03-11 04:50 PM Response to Reply #17 |
36. no shit |
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JoePhilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-03-11 01:53 PM Response to Original message |
21. Yes, our envoy, channeled his father, and told Mubarak to send the thugs in. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-03-11 02:43 PM Response to Reply #21 |
30. As long as Obama doesn't withdraw $$$ then he is helping keep Mubarak propped up ... still -- !! |
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JoePhilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-03-11 07:12 PM Response to Reply #30 |
43. Do you think that our government would announce that ... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-04-11 01:47 AM Response to Reply #43 |
47. I think we shouldn't need a crystal ball -- we need transparency in government .... |
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Throd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-03-11 02:03 PM Response to Original message |
22. I bet he said "Give 'em a 1968 Chicago-style beatdown!" |
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harun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-03-11 02:13 PM Response to Original message |
25. Maybe Wikileaks will someday tell us the truth about this. Until then |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-03-11 02:35 PM Response to Original message |
26. Yet another example of why we NEED the 'unrec' feature. |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-03-11 05:25 PM Response to Reply #26 |
42. +1...nt |
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EnlightenedOne (452 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-03-11 02:38 PM Response to Original message |
27. Oh, the desperation is really pathetic |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-03-11 02:39 PM Response to Original message |
28. Thank you -- had just seen him name mentioned in Family of Secrets -- |
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bobthedrummer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-03-11 02:46 PM Response to Original message |
31. Let's be Frank about the Wisner family, they are loyal to TPTB, not US |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-03-11 04:27 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. Oops |
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Inuca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-03-11 04:50 PM Response to Original message |
35. This belongs on the Glen Beck show n/t |
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Cali_Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-03-11 05:10 PM Response to Original message |
40. I fail to see the connection. n/t |
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Marr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-03-11 05:13 PM Response to Original message |
41. This is the opposite of the Obama boosters who claimed Obama deserved the credit for the Egyptian |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-03-11 07:23 PM Response to Original message |
44. But, does he know where Mubarak's 40 billion US dollars are hidden? |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-03-11 07:41 PM Response to Original message |
45. The unrecs are sure out in numbers here |
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