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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-11 05:39 PM
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Edited on Wed Feb-02-11 05:46 PM by kpete


(and i mean really, really, big,
peace to the world, kpete)

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The New York Times' incredibly courageous Nicholas Kristoff is bearing witness to what the Egyptian protesters already know and are telling the world, that the "pro-Mubarak" crowds attacking peaceful protesters are government-sponsored thugs. I am so goddamned proud to be his mere Facebook friend that my eyes are a bit moist right now.

I was in Tahrir today, and I must say that "clashes" is the wrong word for what happened. This was a violent government-sponsored crackdown using thugs.

Turning to Nick's blog he reports:

Today President Mubarak seems to have decided to crack down on the democracy movement, using not police or army troops but rather mobs of hoodlums and thugs. Ive been spending hours on Tahrir today, and it is absurd to think of this as simply "clashes" between two rival groups. The pro-democracy protesters are unarmed and have been peaceful at every step. But the pro-Mubarak thugs are arriving in buses and are armed and theyre using their weapons. In my area of Tahrir, the thugs were armed with machetes, straight razors, clubs and stones. And they all had the same chants, the same slogans and the same hostility to journalists. They clearly had been organized and briefed. So the idea that this is some spontaneous outpouring of pro-Mubarak supporters, both in Cairo and in Alexandria, who happen to end up clashing with other side that is preposterous.

http://warisacrime.org/content/urgent-breaking-kristoff...

http://kristof.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/02/02/the-view-fr...
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-11 05:41 PM
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1. That is quite a picture! nt
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-11 05:55 PM
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2. r
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ProdigalJunkMail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-11 05:57 PM
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3. Does anyone else notice that the majority of women in that pic
(and it is a very small number overall) are up against the police-line???

Interesting...

sP
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Arazi Donating Member (54 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-11 08:12 PM
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5. Your not supposed to point out that there's a small number of women in the pictures.
There's a group on DU who jump all over anyone who points this out.
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-11 06:35 PM
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4. If it was found that they were hired from outside of Egypt.
Then the Egyptian military would have a just action of protection of Egypt against outside incursion.
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-11 08:15 PM
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6. Wow - this looks like something out of The Empire Strikes Back.
:wow:
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-11 09:42 PM
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7. on the live footage, the police are not wearing uniforms. Who are the guys in black in this photo?
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canetoad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-11 09:45 PM
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8. Anyone wonder
How big the Egyptian protests would be if the women came to them too?

In all the protest pix I've seen in the past few days, there are no more than a handful of women.
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riderinthestorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-11 10:40 PM
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9. I got called a bigoted idiot for pointing this out.
I'm not sure what the agenda is, but there's a dearth of women in these photos. Granted, I don't have teevee so I rely on the internet but every unbiased photo I see shows hundreds of men to every woman in the crowd.

And now it appears the Egyptian government thugs are molesting women who are there! This means women are going to be even more marginalized imho. If they aren't a MAJOR presence here, they WILL be designated as second class citizens when the new government is formed.

I'm worried.
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