Pawlenty: America was founded under God

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By Andy Birkey | 01.27.11 | 12:51 pm

In an interview released in Christianity Today Thursday, Tim Pawlenty asserted that the United States was “founded under God” and that the founding fathers put that into the nation’s founding documents. In the wide-ranging interview, Pawlenty talked about his faith, his reversal on cap and trade, and the possibility of running against Rep. Michele Bachmann for the 2012 Republican nomination for president.

“If I make a faith-related comment, I usually quote from the Bible, often from the Old Testament,” Pawlenty told Christianity Today. “I remind people that our country is founded under God, and the founders thought that was an important perspective. I watch my tone so I don’t get judgmental or angry about issues. I try to express myself in ways that are measured and appropriate and hopefully civil and positive. Lastly, I try not to say that God is on my side, but I strive to be on God’s side.”

Christianity Today’s Sarah Pulliam Bailey asked him, “Your book encourages Christians to be involved in public issues. At what point might Christians rely too much on political solutions to current problems?”

Pawlenty responded, “I started with the perspective of someone who says that faith is separate from public law and public service; it really isn’t. We have, as a country, a founding perspective that we’re founded under God; our founding documents reference and acknowledge God, and acknowledge that our rights and privileges come from our Creator.”

Despite that claim, the United States Constitution makes no reference to a creator or God. The Declaration of Independence merely refers to a creator and to “Nature’s God.”

[FreakinDJ]

1. Then explain the Pilgrims who came here to escape Religious Persecution

ya Jack Ass

[trotsky]

3. Well actually, the pilgrims came here because they couldn't force others...

to be as tight-assed as they were. So yeah, in a way they were "persecuted" in England by not being able to force everyone else to live by their rules.

[FBaggins]

4. Were you under the impression that "religious persecution"...

was non-religious being persecuted by those who were religious?

[KansDem]

2. This equine excrement is getting tiresome.

How they can lie and never be called on it is beyond me...:eyes:

[Mariana]

13. Lying for the Lord is acceptable, I guess. nt.

[hamsterjill]

5. Separation of Church and State

It's pretty clear to me. And I'm a Christian. But I don't have the right to force my beliefs on anyone else.

[Adsos Letter]

11. Amen, Sister! Same status and perspective here.

[FlyByNight]

6. Pawlenty = world-class panderer

Wow, another religious zealot who doesn't give a shit about the Constitution. How novel.

[TlalocW]

7. There's enough historical mish-mash as well as the general public's ignorance

To get by on claims like this. And for every true example we give such as Thomas Jefferson not believing in the divinity of Christ, they have an argument against it (usually based one false assumptions).

But when you have the first president of the United States declaring in a treaty with a foreign power (Treaty of Tripoli), that "As the government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian Religion..." you would think they would shut up for a while.

TlalocW

[YellowRubberDuckie]

8. The Founding Fathers would probably flip if they saw what people were doing to their country today.

Our Founding Fathers were deists, not Christians. There is a difference. They believed in enlightenment, education, technology and a Creator. They warned that taking the bible literally was dangerous and suspect. Jefferson even edited his own version of the New Testament, removing the supernatural parts, including the Virgin Birth and the Resurrection. They never wanted this to be a theocracy. They wanted a Democratic Republic with checks and balances to keep tyranny at bay.
If those morons would turn off the TV, actually pick up and read this bible they all worship, they'd realize it is a mess of a book, and that taking it literally is a really bad thing.
If those morons would pick up a book about actual American History, they would understand the real story.
If the Founding Fathers could see their beloved country now, while Benjamin Franklin would be distracted by all the technology, the rest of them would be pissed at what it had become.
Duckie

[spanone]

9. timmy's praying for a theocracy

[dmosh42]

10. These wackos make it up, as they go along! n/t

[RedCloud]

12. Only with Zeus's blessing!