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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-11 01:50 PM
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Jane Mayer: Mubarak's New VP Suleiman Coordinated CIA Torture/Rendition Program
Edited on Sat Jan-29-11 02:13 PM by Hissyspit
WikiLeaks and The Law @WLLegal
In "The Dark Side," Jane Mayer wrote that Omar Suleiman, #Egypt 's new VP, coordinated the CIA rendition/torture program http://bit.ly/hVZhST
13 mins ago from web

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Dennis Donovan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-11 01:51 PM
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1. Recommended! Meet the new boss...
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-11 01:52 PM
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2. When you need to send the best
:facepalm:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-11 01:53 PM
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3. And, there it is. n/t
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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-11 02:00 PM
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4. Aren't we glad we're shipping "Democracy" to people
So, in a few years, will everyone be on the same page, and torture for fun and profit will just be another hazard for the normal civilian?
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-11 02:02 PM
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5. It's ironic that people fear "radical islamists" when our own CIA connected
people have already shown themselves to a more present danger.

Here's an article from Jeff Cohen someone just sent me.

January 29, 2011

Fear Extreme Islamists in the Arab World? Blame Washington.

By Jeff Cohen

In the last year of his life, Martin Luther King Jr. questioned U.S. military interventions against progressive movements in the Third World by invoking a JFK quote: "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."

Were he alive to have witnessed the last three decades of U.S. foreign policy, King might update that quote by noting: "Those who make secular revolution impossible will make extreme Islamist revolution inevitable."

For decades beginning during the Cold War, U.S. policy in the Islamic world has been aimed at suppressing secular reformist and leftist movements. Beginning with the CIA-engineered coup against a secular democratic reform government in Iran in 1953 (it was about oil), Washington has propped up dictators, coaching these regimes in the black arts of torture and mayhem against secular liberals and the left.

In these dictatorships, often the only places where people had freedom to meet and organize were mosques -- and out of these mosques sometimes grew extreme Islamist movements. The Shah's torture state in Iran was brilliant at cleansing and murdering the left -" a process that helped the rise of the Khomeini movement and ultimately Iran's Islamic Republic.

More:

http://www.opednews.com/articles/Fear-Extreme-Islamists...

Author's Bio: Jeff Cohen is the founding director of the Park Center for Independent Media at Ithaca College. He founded the media watch group FAIR in 1986.

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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-11 02:11 PM
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9. The CIA and Pentagon are the best helpers that Al Queda ever had and still have.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-11 02:12 PM
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10. Yup. And after them, the neo cons. n/t
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-11 02:19 PM
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11. The neo-libs aren't slouches at screwing the people either.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-11 05:13 PM
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20. Actually they are the BEST...because the other groups are more widely known
for what they've done in the past. The "Neo-Libs" are just feeling their Oats..Bulking Up and it's harder for folks to get a clear picture that they are just the same old cloaked in different garments.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-11 02:34 PM
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14. Just said that to a good friend
They make me ill.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-11 02:03 PM
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6. how do the Egyptians feel about this piece of shit?
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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-11 02:04 PM
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7.  Michael Moore:C'mon U.S. networks--who of u will b 1st 2 say it:
http://twitter.com/#!/MMFlint
C'mon U.S. networks--who of u will b 1st 2 say it: "New Egyptian VP ran our secret rendition program in #Egypt." I will send prize 2 1st!
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-11 02:09 PM
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8. NATCH!
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-11 02:26 PM
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12. Where is his Medal of Freedom?



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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-11 02:33 PM
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13. Someone should tell Obama
and the rest of them.
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arthritisR_US Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-11 02:38 PM
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15. something tells me they already knew. n/t
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 03:40 AM
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26. I amused at how so many assume Obama is an "innocent". nt
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-11 02:42 PM
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16. Oh, what a good choice.
:sarcasm:
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-11 03:35 PM
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17. once again reality reads like an Onion article
jeez, I don't know how the Onion can stay in business.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-11 03:39 PM
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18. No way..... the CIA and torture?
The CIA and conspiracies..

God give me and my village some LSD
and make jump out of 13th floor......some may understand that reference.


I need to ask a Kennedy or someone from the John Foster Dulles family
or go to the 'Freedom' of information Act where

They will put it off or redact everything.

Thank you WikiLeaks.

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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-11 03:54 PM
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19. Figures......thanks for the update....
:-(
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-11 05:23 PM
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21. Yep
K&R

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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-11 10:49 PM
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22. jeremyscahill jeremy scahill RT @thenation "This is not Mubaraks #Egypt anymore, & it will never b
jeremyscahill jeremy scahill
RT @thenation "This is not Mubaraks #Egypt anymore, & it will never be again:" http://bit.ly/dSwVbM
45 seconds ago Favorite Retweet Reply
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 12:46 AM
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23. Jane Mayer in The New Yorker today: "Who Is Omar Suleiman?"
Edited on Sun Jan-30-11 12:56 AM by Hissyspit
http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/newsdesk/2011/01/...

JANUARY 29, 2011
WHO IS OMAR SULEIMAN?
Posted by Jane Mayer

- snip -

As I described in my book The Dark Side, since 1993 Suleiman has headed the feared Egyptian general intelligence service. In that capacity, he was the C.I.A.s point man in Egypt for renditionsthe covert program in which the C.I.A. snatched terror suspects from around the world and returned them to Egypt and elsewhere for interrogation, often under brutal circumstances.

As laid out in greater detail by Stephen Grey, in his book Ghost Plane, beginning in the nineteen-nineties, Suleiman negotiated directly with top Agency officials. Every rendition was greenlighted at the highest levels of both the U.S. and Egyptian intelligence agencies. Edward S. Walker, Jr., a former U.S. Ambassador to Egypt, described Suleiman as very bright, very realistic, adding that he was cognizant that there was a downside to some of the negative things that the Egyptians engaged in, of torture and so on. But he was not squeamish, by the way.

Technically, U.S. law required the C.I.A. to seek assurances from Egypt that rendered suspects wouldnt face torture. But under Suleimans reign at the intelligence service, such assurances were considered close to worthless. As Michael Scheuer, a former C.I.A. officer who helped set up the practice of rendition, later testified before Congress, even if such assurances were written in indelible ink, they werent worth a bucket of warm spit.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 03:10 AM
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24. Morning in Cairo Kick nt
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 03:31 AM
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25. A RepubliStooge (R) -- sure strategery for FAIL
The putrid torture-embracing Family Value hate-and-fear 'ethics' of Republiconism polluting the international scene...
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 07:10 AM
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27. Kick nt
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deminks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 09:28 AM
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28. Kick!
:kick:
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 09:56 AM
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29. Well worth reading.
Blowback. That's what happens when the CIA is run by Crusaders.
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 10:01 AM
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30. K & R
:kick:
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