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Bonhomme Richard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 03:05 PM
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What the people of Egypt are doing now is exactly what we should..
be doing to Wall Street and the money brokers. The fact is that they are literally robbing the treasury as we speak. They would shit their pants and be screaming "Let's talk about it" just as Gibbs is saying about Egypt. These people love their power just up to the point that they really don't have any. That is if the people;e get fed up.
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Zephie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 03:07 PM
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1. I'll admit it
Edited on Fri Jan-28-11 03:08 PM by Zephie
I truly believe that Americans have forgotten about the impact of protests like this. I'm hoping that we'll start to remember what it is to stand up to injustice. We've been so vetted that we've forgotten what it's like to NOT do what we're told for once and decide for ourselves.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 03:12 PM
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3. Problem is that people who protest get punished afterwards.
Look at the Kent State incident. They said that people who graduated from Kent State had trouble finding work for a while. This even applied to people who weren't part of the protest.

So, my point, make it a peaceful demonstration and use it to bring attention to the problem.
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Zephie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 03:19 PM
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7. I completely agree that peaceful demonstration is always, undoubtedly the best choice
Edited on Fri Jan-28-11 03:21 PM by Zephie
and will always be the best choice. However there comes a point where when you've been ignored, marginalized, and made to endure asinine conditions (the food prices in Egypt were outrageous and they're getting pretty insane here too), that taking more brutal action may be appropriate. Now is not the time for America, and hopefully that time will not come for a good long while. I am still holding out for a democratic solution, however I won't be surprised if it happens here too if things don't change, and if it does, I'll be with them in the streets, because things will be too bad not to be. At that point employment is trivial.
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bif Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 03:08 PM
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2. Americans would rather watch American Idol
and Dancing With The Stars than actually do anything. Look at how many people didn't vote in the last election. We've become pretty pathetic.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 03:14 PM
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4. Hey. I'm with you. If you're not ready to die for a cause, you don't deserve to live.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 03:21 PM
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8. ugh. that's a "live free or die" dictum-
I won't judge who deserves to live. that way lies madness and blood.
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 03:57 PM
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16. Thanks Patrick Henry. nt
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Shandris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 04:20 PM
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18. The object isn't to die for your cause.
It's to make the other poor bastard die for his.

Patton, I believe?
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Bonhomme Richard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 03:16 PM
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5. I think, unfortunately, that we are all so financially tied up in their greedy disasterous...
system that they would be screaming that we are cutting our own throats. Tied up through jobs, savings, investments, retirement, mortgages, etc... and a lot of people would buy that argument.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 03:16 PM
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6. it's really not the same thing plus we have elections
and many people actually voted for people who want less regulation and think Obama is a communist.

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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 03:23 PM
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9. They have elections...

and theirs effect about as much real change as ours do.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 03:33 PM
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11. their elections are really not as free as they are here
i know you will try to say otherwise but it really is not the same thing.

plus you CAN criticize how elections or other things are done in America without thinking it's the same in egypt .
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 03:43 PM
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12. And what good does that criticism do?

It's all in the doing, not the saying.

When it gets to the point that the ruling class feels threatened by criticism be assured that these rights ain't worth spit.

How can I? By looking at net effect and paying no attention to the blather.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 03:53 PM
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14. nobody is stopping you from campaigning and getting other people
to support changes in the election system.
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 03:56 PM
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15. I think people are getting sick of incremental non-change. Just a hunch. nt
nt
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 04:12 PM
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17. The electoral system is a Potemkin Village

It is effectively controlled by the ruling class.
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jannyk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 03:51 PM
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13. Oooh, snap! First thing I thought too. nt
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riverwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 03:24 PM
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10. watch, learn and be humbled
We might wear a politically provocative T-shirt to a rally, or carry a protest sign for a few hours, then go home and watch "Jersey Shore" and order a pizza, then envision ourselves as "radicals". No one I know is moved or angry enough to be willing to demonstrate for 4 days, be bludgeoned and beaten, and then literally tear apart an armored vehicle with their bare hands (as they did this morning in Suez).
We are good at talking the talk. Other nations are now showing us the walk.
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 05:37 PM
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20. teevee and internet
if they ever get taken away, watch the reaction then! i'm dead serious.
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Bonhomme Richard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 05:34 PM
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19. This doesn't have anything to do with elections.
I'm convinced that they are already bought and sold. The money brokers need to feel the threat directly. Forgive the term but, at the end of the day they are pussies that have gotten away with bullying. Look at that corporate raider that wants his donation back from UCONN because he didn't have a say in the football coach selection. They really believe they make the rules and they will as long as we let them.
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