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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 11:23 AM
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EVENTS IN EGYPT THREAD #2
Lets keep the info flowing.
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justiceischeap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 11:27 AM
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1. *BREAKING* Friends from within Egypt asking us to tell the world they are being shot with live
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 11:36 AM
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16.  the army or by security forces? App. there is a distinction
The army tends to be better thought of, according to Al Jazeera.


I am very sorry to hear that. :(
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justiceischeap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 11:37 AM
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19. The tweet wasn't specific. (eom)
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 11:48 AM
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38. Are they able to tell if the bullets aren't rubber?
(Never got shot with either.) That would mean this is moving into a much bloodier phase. Mubarak deciding to fight, like in Iran, rather than give up, as in Tunisia.

But I've heard so many conflicting reports this morning. What we don't seem to know is whether the army is united or divided. Or on which side they'll fall.

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justiceischeap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 11:58 AM
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See post #34
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 12:07 PM
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58. I suppose that some segments of the army might be doing
different things- hope your friends/ contacts are safe.
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 11:29 AM
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2. k&r for exposure. This is important. n/t
-Laelth
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 11:30 AM
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3. Keep this kicked !
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 11:30 AM
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4. Here's a live Twitter thing
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CLANG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 01:23 PM
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71. I translated something from arabic - ammunition - MADE IN USA
Edited on Fri Jan-28-11 01:25 PM by CLANG
Al-Jazeera correspondent: Bamtazahr said the island was found cartridges written on it: Made in the USA, in English and Arabic. Special model for Arabs.

http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitpic/photos/large/232088808....
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 11:30 AM
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5. Keep this kicked !
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 11:30 AM
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6. Al Jazeera reporting 80,000 in the streets of Port Said. nt
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justiceischeap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 11:31 AM
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7. Reports say Army and Police have begun backing down and not clashing w/ protesters
http://twitter.com/#!/ASLANmedia/status/310384704996065...

@ASLANmedia Reza Aslan
#EGYPT: Reports say Army and Police have begun backing down and not clashing w/ protesters #egypt #cairo #jan25
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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 11:31 AM
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8. k and r nt
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 11:31 AM
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9. Recommend!!! n/t
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 11:33 AM
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10. Protesters storming Ministry of Foreign Affairs.
Police backing down, police vehicles on fire
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 11:33 AM
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11. AP reporting that protesters have stormed Egypt's
Foreign Ministry building.
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 11:35 AM
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12. Number of protesters increasing as police retreat.
Headquarters of Egypt's ruling National Democratic Party is completely overwhelmed by fire.
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 11:58 AM
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47. "not a single fire truck has tried to put out the fire at the ruling party's headquarters"
according to al-jazeera ...
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 12:09 PM
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60. and apparently it is right next to a major museum :(
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 12:23 PM
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68. indeed :(
I think it's the Museum of Egyptian Antiquitites (Egyptian Museum): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egyptian_museum
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justiceischeap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 12:35 PM
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70.  Attempts have now begun 2 control fires near Egyptian national museum
http://twitter.com/#!/jmccarthy1/status/310573683724820...

#Aljazeera reporter in #Cairo: Attempts have now begun 2 control fires near Egyptian national museum #Egypt
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 11:35 AM
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13. Riot police been pulled back for now. n/t
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 11:35 AM
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14. Previous thread ( since 3 this am,, lots of good info)
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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 11:36 AM
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15. live English feed from Al-Jazeera
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 11:37 AM
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17. From tweeter


@eacusa
EACUSAمصريون للتغيير
#JAN25 #EGYPT MORE THAN 10 TANKS ENTERING ABD EL MONEIN REYAD SQUARE (THIS IS RIGHT THIS SECOND, LIVE)
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 11:37 AM
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18. No police presence on the streets of Cairo, AJE reports
it looks like absolute bedlam on the streets.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 11:38 AM
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20. Thank you -- will try to catch up with thread 1 ... !!
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 11:39 AM
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21. AJ reporting curfew now extends to entire country. nt
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 11:39 AM
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22. Curfew expanded to entire country, not just Cairo.
Good luck with that.
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 11:41 AM
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24. Protesters cheering arrival of tanks in Alexandria. nt
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 11:51 AM
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42. "curfew has been put in place. It has done absolutely nothing"
as they said on Al-Jazeera a moment ago ...
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justiceischeap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 11:40 AM
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23. Reports Mubarak will speak were 'inaccurate'.
@dubaijazz Dubai Jazz
Al Jazeera Arabic now is saying that earlier reports by int. newswires that Mubarak will speak were 'inaccurate'. #Jan25 #Cairo #Egypt

http://twitter.com/#!/dubaijazz/status/3104251797779251...
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PaddyBlueEyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 11:44 AM
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30. He is trying to find a way
to get the hell of the country before he abdicates. I'm guessing the diplomatic lines are burning up with friendly nations trying to find himself a safe haven. I hope to hell we don't let him come here..
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 11:41 AM
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25. AJ reporting soldiers coming out of tanks and shaking
peoples hands. "They are completely being cheered in Alexandria".
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 01:47 PM
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72. That is such a good sign!!
Once the army sides with the people, it's over.

:applause: :applause: for the people.

They were giving flowers to the police yesterday and all the attempts to paint this as an 'Islamic' revolution completely failed as the people, Christian and Arab joined forces.

It's been amazing to watch all of this.
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 11:42 AM
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I'm waiting for them to report that the military is standing down.
The military and police are what keep these dictatorial regimes in power. It looks like police in local areas are expressing solidarity with the protestors. If the military switches sides, then we will really have regime change in Egypt.
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 12:16 PM
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62. apparently the military is much more respected than the
dreaded local security forces, who regularly torture dissenters. (courtesy of Al Jazeera analysis)
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justiceischeap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 11:42 AM
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26. Egyptian State TV live feed shows calm and skyline (NOW W/PIC)
Edited on Fri Jan-28-11 11:49 AM by justiceischeap
@joelvanharen Joel Van Haren
Egyptian State TV live feed shows calm and skyline, avoiding action on the ground in #Cairo #jan25 stark contrast to @AJEnglish feed

http://twitter.com/#!/joelvanharen/status/3104384554631...

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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 11:43 AM
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27. al Jazeera's split screen is incredible
half the screen had the burning armored personnel carrier, while the other half, which was being broadcast by Egyptian TV, made it look like things were relatively calm in Cairo--all as they told Egyptians there was a nationwide curfew.
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 11:44 AM
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32. Baghdad Bob and now Cairo Carl? nt
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 12:17 PM
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63. that's why "state" tv as a concept is so scary!


:rofl:
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 11:43 AM
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28. Protesters are welcoming army in Alexandria.
Al Jazeera says people are greeting army with open arms.

And in Cairo people are are applauding and cheering egyptian military.
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 11:44 AM
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33. Some soldiers are giving thumbs up to protesters
I just saw a clip where they seemed to be weaving flags as they rolled in.
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 11:43 AM
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29. Al Jazeera Live Feed:
Al Jazeera English: Live Stream

http://english.aljazeera.net/watch_now /

K&R
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Crystal Clarity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 12:26 PM
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69. I've been watching that for the past 2 or more hours
Amazing events unfolding over there.
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justiceischeap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 11:44 AM
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31. Unconfirmed reports of military clashing with police per al Jazeera (eom)
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 11:46 AM
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36. So the military and the protesters vs the police?
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PaddyBlueEyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 11:48 AM
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40. Yes
The military is generally drawn from the local populace, where the Police are usually hand picked local political types. Be careful though, some of the higher ranking military leaders are Mubarak loyalists. This could get very ugly.
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 12:18 PM
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65. they referred to the security police as "thugs"
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 11:47 AM
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37. Reports form AJ: the police are firing at the army in Suez.
Incredible.
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florida08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 11:58 AM
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46. wow
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 11:57 AM
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45. wow.
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PaddyBlueEyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 12:00 PM
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49. It looks like
the Army will hold and back the protestors. Once the bullets started flying and the Army returned fire, Mubarak is done.
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 12:01 PM
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51. Yep. He may already be done behind the scenes. nt
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PaddyBlueEyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 12:03 PM
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53. Thats why the delay on his press conference
Mubarak is trying to find a way out of Egypt. It also may tie in with EgyptAir canceling flights into and out of Cairo. They are clearing the airspace, and more importantly the airport, so he can make his getaway.
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justiceischeap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 12:04 PM
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54. His son will not suffice. (eom)
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PaddyBlueEyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 12:18 PM
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64. Gamel Mubarak
has already left the country
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 12:06 PM
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56. That's what I think too. He may be waiting to see what the
Army does.
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 12:11 PM
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61. Hopefully he's already on his plane and headed out ... nt
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 12:05 PM
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55. he was scheduled to speak, he's late
hmm
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 12:06 PM
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57. an MSNBC reporter just acknowledged rumors that he has left the country
Edited on Fri Jan-28-11 12:07 PM by fishwax
unconfirmed, as yet ...

on edit: MSNBC, not CNN -- got confused between my TV feed and my multiple online feeds :)
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 12:21 PM
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67. isn't it wild to be looking at all these feeds? Usually I
don't have time to do that! :rofl: :hi:
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justiceischeap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 12:08 PM
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59. Reports of Mubarak speaking 'inaccurate' (link inside)
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 12:02 PM
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52. yep -- looks like it
I've seen reports of the army siding with or showing support for the protestors in Alexandria and in Suez ... I'm not sure I've heard that about Cairo specifically, but even so ...
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 12:19 PM
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66. ah, the military were firing at the security police. Wow.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 12:00 PM
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50. Right.
My son and I had been discussing this earlier. That is, of course, the goal of the protest leaders. It changes the dynamics to a point of no return.
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justiceischeap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 11:46 AM
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34. BREAKING Al Arabiya: 410 injured today in Cairo, some from bullet wounds.
http://twitter.com/#!/ASLANmedia/status/310448901712773...

@ASLANmedia Reza Aslan
RT @SultanAlQassemi BREAKING Al Arabiya: 410 injured today in #Cairo, some from bullet wounds. #Jan25 Via Reuters #egypt
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florida08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 11:46 AM
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35. thank you thank you
Alexandria in the hands of protestors..shaking hands with the military. Eyptian flags being waved by some of the military

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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 11:48 AM
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39. Thousands remain in streets of Suez
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justiceischeap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 11:51 AM
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41. CHANT: "The people and the army, we are one."
@cnnbrk CNN Breaking News
Protesters outside Info Ministry in #Cairo chant, "The people and the army, we are one."

http://on.cnn.com/fjkQqv
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 11:56 AM
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43. Egypt: Obama convenes aides as protests spread
WASHINGTON (AP) President Barack Obama has convened his national security team on the growing protests in Egypt as aides voice concern about violent clashes between demonstrators and police.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-01-28/egypt-obama-co...


Little bit of anxiety, eh ...
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 11:59 AM
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48. Blowback is a bitch.
Egypt canceling air flights, says Al Jazeera.

Mubarak to speak....soon? Maybe?
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 11:56 AM
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44. Commentator on AJ: "As Egypt goes, so goes the whole
region".
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