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Mike 03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 03:50 PM
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Art Bell Disassociates Himself from Coast to Coast
For some reason, or maybe for some OBVIOUS reason, Art Bell had chosen to break his ties with his baby, Coast to Coast AM. (see sources below).

I am not surprised, but I am profoundly saddened. George Noory had destroyed what was a great dynasty where intelligent people could discuss the mysteries that bemuse us in an intelligent way. Coast to Coast has deteriorated into a pathetic circus where Noory agrees with all of his guests, even when they are diametrically opposed in their views. He believes little people live in the center of the earth, that Global Warming is a fantasy, and that everything that the sociopath Alex Jones says is true. Coast to Coast used to be a haven for thinking, but it has disintegrated into an intellectual graveyard where there is less evidence for evolution than creationism, and Mr. Noory believes more that there are giants living in the forests of the North West than there is evidence for the Theory of Relativity.

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"As of December 18, 2010, Art was no longer listed as a host on the Coast to Coast website; his shows were no longer searchable under his name; and the only references to Bell on the site are of an historical or archival nature. (Somewhere In Time with Art Bell continues to run on Saturday nights before the live show.)
On 12/21/10 the "HamCam" on Art's ham radio website<27> featured an image with the following cryptic wording: "The Wind No Longer Blows, in the End it was Without Direction. Long Live the Hot Air. 30"<28> Fans on Art-centric comment boards have identified "30" as "a sign-off when a Ham has their final transmission from a particular location."<29> Other interpretations are similar: "The End", "Good Night", "No More".


http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AGETI/message/11417

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mainer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 03:59 PM
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1. Art Bell's the guy you want to share a bottle of scotch with
I found him funny, exceedingly curious, and ready to talk about anything.
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 05:40 PM
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13. One night Bell interviewed a guy who claimed to have found a bottomless hole
he went on and on about how he'd drop things into it and *not* hear them land on anything. (yes, this is how Coast to Coast was back in the 1990's/early 2000's). the guy finally decided to lower something on a string into the hole to see how deep it was. he lowered all his string and still it had tension --ergo, the hole is bottomless!!!

:wtf:

30 or 40 minutes into the interview someone calls in and says, that if you lower enough string/rope, then wouldn't that alone keep the tension on the string? even if the object attached to it had finally come to rest on something.

then Bell says, "well, that seems like a good point doesn't it?" :rofl:

the rest of the interview kind of seemed anticlimactic.
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Biker13 Donating Member (609 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 03:29 PM
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38. Greatest Show Ever!
Pure bullshit, but Mel (The show was "Mel's Hole")sure knew how to tell a story! He was amazing, and Art just kept quiet and let him talk. The perfect interview, in my opinion.

George sucks. Never reads the books his guests have written, and is totally unprepared. The lot of them are full of shit, but entertaining as all hell if interviewed right.

I love Ian, if only for the awful puns!

Biker's Old Lady
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 04:10 PM
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2. Bell sent those "Gaters" with purple clotes and $2.00 to the spaceship a few years ago
A fail in recent years
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Mike 03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 04:19 PM
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3. Bump. Sorry, I never bump my own posts, but this is an exception.
Coast to Coast was our last hope.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 04:20 PM
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4. I always liked to listen to C2C when Art Bell was on. Very intelligent and
not easily fooled, he let his guests tell their tales, and was at times skeptical but never disrespectful.

Noory is a gullible fool who totally buys into the crackpot theories of his guests. Can't stand him.
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nightgaunt Donating Member (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-11 06:29 PM
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50. Norry mostly does the same as Art Bell
When it concerned having on contradictory people the point was not to debate them but to let them speak unimpeded. As I heard him explain it once many years ago. Just like Larry King did only with the "out there" spectrum and wild political material too. Art Bell on that evening of 9/11/01 he was ready to exterminate every Iraqi for it. (He had been fooled too by the lies.) I think Art Bell was better at it than Norry is. But the people are the same as is hawking books etc. (Who isn't these days?)

Some of the shows are better than others. I don't know if Norry has ever tossed anyone off for being just too far over whatever line he has for weirdness or charlatenry. I find it entertaining. I will miss Art Bell.

Note: Art Bell appeared as himself of "Millennium" toward the end of the series.
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AsahinaKimi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 04:28 PM
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5. Can't stand George Noory
But always enjoyed listening to Art Bell. Its too bad his replacement was so badly chosen.
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cbdo2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 04:30 PM
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6. Noory isn't all bad.
There is a fine line between "crazy" and "extra-super-crazy" and although he doesn't follow it as easily as Art Bell did, he does an ok job with the material and guests he interviews.

You really can't compare the two. That's like comparing Johnny Carson and Jay Leno. Of course Jay isn't as good, nobody probably would be, but he is decent.

I agree, they probably should find someone better over the long term, but the blame falls as much on Bell as it does on Noory as Bell hasn't given much input to it over the years. It was HIS show and he sold out to some company. It's not like Art Bell is thinking he could do better because he could certainly have an internet show or something. He just sits around in the desert or something.
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WolverineDG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 04:32 PM
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7. listening to his show late-nights/early mornings
got me through law school. he could always be counted on to have some really interesting shows & guests. most of it was bullshit, but it made for good radio. i was part of the email list that came up with the cat/buttered toast anti-grav machine. some really fun, creative folks on that list & it was fun to read & participate.

dg
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riverwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 04:34 PM
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8. I agree completely, Mike
Art was well read and had vast knowledge about even the most obscure and complicated things. He was curious about everything, yet he also had healthy skepticism, and he had a sense of humor. Noory is a closet fundie and obsessed with "end times" crap, and not nearly as intelligent.
I miss Art.
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karmaqueen Donating Member (417 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 04:37 PM
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9. There is such a difference between the two hosts...

I was very upset when Coast to Coast started to talk politics... My husband quit listening the first time he heard the political talk. I still listen but I love to hear about all the people who have been on the space ships & such...
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Mariana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 05:01 PM
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10. Noory's a lousy interviewer.
For the most part, he just asks his scripted questions and doesn't follow up on interesting things his guests say. You could count on Art to say something like, "What? Tell me more about that." Noory hardly ever does that, he just moves on to the next, usually totally unrelated, question on his list. Often, I suspect he isn't even listening to the answers.
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aaaaaa5a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 05:23 PM
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11. Art Bell was the best ever! NT
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aaaaaa5a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 05:32 PM
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12. Art Bell's interview with Bob Lazar back in the late 90s was the greatest radio interview ever!


It had it all. Area 51. Groom Lake. Government cover-ups. Aliens. Spacecrafts. Danger. You name it. It was my generations version of when "War of The Worlds" was first broadcast on radio. Outstanding.


Bell interviewed Lazar for nearly 5 hours. And there was so much info, they ran out of time! I would pay dearly for a copy of that historic radio broadcast.

I believe that Lazar hasn't been interviewed by anyone since.


That night was unreal. Yes, his show could get "out there" from time to time. But if you sat down in a dark room late at night and listened to that interview. it will send chills down your spine! LOL!





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Ahpook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 06:18 PM
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19. Is this it?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-m4-iAeLRo

Must be some of the interview?

I listened to a couple of his past shows on the tube. One lady called in stating she was a witch named "Harlot" That was an interesting interview! Through the interview I got the idea she was some nutty christian aching for chaos.

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aaaaaa5a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 07:50 PM
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24. YOUR ROCK!


Yes that is a part of the interview. Thanks a million. Fantastic!


THank you.
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TuxedoKat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 11:49 AM
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33. Are you a C to C Member?
Edited on Sun Jan-30-11 11:54 AM by TuxedoKat
I just went back to look for the first interview that you mentioned. Here is a page that shows the first interview with Bob Lazar on 9/26/97 (recently replayed on 6/12/10) and George Knapp interviewed him as recently 11/15/09. I'm going to listen to that first interview then all the subsequent ones in chronological order that I can find.

If you aren't a C to C member, you can become one just for one month ($6.95, I think) and download an MP3 of that show and any other shows you want.

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2010/06/12/art

Edited to add:

Well I just double-checked my link and it only brings up that first interview but if you use the search engine on the website you will easily find any other interviews or discussions with or about Bob Lazar. Also, the other host, George Knapp, apparently has been researching Area 51 for years, so it would probably be worthwhile to listen to his show too.

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/guest/lear-john/6252

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aaaaaa5a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 09:10 PM
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45. Thank you again.


I am now a c2c member. The show I was talking about was from 1997. I listened to it last night. I haven't heard that show in years. It brought back memories of when I was in college in the late 1990s. Fantastic.


For anyone interested, like the above post mentions, you can become a member and download the shows to Itunes. In fact the shows will download to Itunes automatically everyday. Its great to go to sleep with every night.


Plus you can archive the classic shows and get the Bob Lazar interview from 1997. Make sure the lights are out when you hear it. Its starts slow. But it gets good. Its really spooky stuff.



Thank you.


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TuxedoKat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 10:53 PM
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47. That's great!
Edited on Sun Jan-30-11 10:54 PM by TuxedoKat
I'm glad you joined and got to hear your program. Art had some amazing ones over the years. There was one I heard in the late '90s as well. It was about a woman who had had alot of contact with aliens and one time was chased by them in a field. Somewhere I think I have a tape of part of that show. Pretty wild.

I've been a member for about ten years or more I guess! I'm on the east coast so I rarely listen in real time or if I do it is only the first hour or so before I fall asleep. My husband has my computer set-up so I can play a show on the computer and listen to it on my walkman anywhere in the house or outside working in my yard.

I started listening to the show you mentioned but haven't finished it yet -- amazing stuff!

If you like shows about time slips, search for Lionel Fanthorpe. Happy listening! :)
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Peregrine Took Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 06:01 PM
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16. Absolutely. His sense of drama was wonderful. It seemed that anything
was possible - in the middle of the night. He knew that and refused to switch his show to the daytime because of that fact.
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 12:52 AM
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31. It really was. That's what Noory lacks. Art Bell was the closest thing to PT Barnum that...
...I'll ever hear. He could wrap that voice of his around any most any topic and make you interested too.

PB
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 05:48 PM
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14. Interviewing skills haven't seemed very important to me in a CtCAM host.
Noory gets by interjecting only the occasional "Absolutely" at whatever stupid shit the guest has just said. Every once in a while he lets slip some howlers, too.

But you want a really terrible interviewer? Try his field correspondent, Linda Moulton Howe, who reads her questions as if at gunpoint. I know she can speak well enough; I've seen her used as a prop on the History Channel's dumbest shows. She just doesn't bring it for the Coasties.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 05:58 PM
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15. I loved the night he had on "I am the anti-Christ" line...
We had gone to an Indians game and the three other folks in the car were WASTED on cheap beer and lousy hot dogs plus a few other things that can not be mention...

They had never heard the Art Bell show before and they were howling.

It was the only way I could keep them quiet as I tried to get home with these three extremely inebriated people.

Art got me through some very tough nights when I was questioning my worth as a person, when I was extremely isolated from the rest of the world, when I couldn't see a way out of problem I had boxed myself into and dealt with everything by sleeping in the day ans staying awake all night doing my work.

If it wasn't for Art, I don't know if I would be here today.
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aaaaaa5a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 06:02 PM
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17. I loved it when he had open lines only for "people who think they were abducted by aliens." nt
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WolverineDG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 06:34 PM
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21. Ghost to Ghost at Halloween
and all the wacky predictions for the coming year on the NYE show (or the one closest to it). IIRC, some of them came true. :wow:

dg
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 06:08 PM
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18. Art Bell was tops for driving all night
I haven't listened to Noory enough to render a fair judgment, I suppose, but the times I've listened to him it definitely didn't measure up to what I remember of Art Bell.
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TuxedoKat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 06:32 PM
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20. Art was the best
George is okay, but a little too right-wing for me sometimes. The Saturday host Ian Punnett is a really good interviewer and has had some really interesting guests on and he doesn't let guests get away with things. He's not afraid to go after them or put them on the spot if he has to.
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ChazII Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 06:38 PM
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22. Art was great
and I loved hearing his voice. He is missed. Does living out of the country have anything to do with his leaving?
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Archae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 06:47 PM
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23. Bell should talk.
He gave oodles of airtime to theocrat and fake "prophet" Gary North.
"The Y2K bug is coming! Everybody buy my overpriced canned beans!"

He also put on the air muliple times "Face On Mars" ditwit Richard Hoaxland.
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 07:56 PM
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25. That show was always stupid.
Hard to believe that many credulous people exist.
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Archae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 08:55 PM
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26. Just look at how many still listen to Rush faithfully.
:eyes:
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aaaaaa5a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 09:11 PM
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46. Have you seen the way some people vote in this country? nt
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 11:55 PM
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49. When I was in the car late enough at night I always listened to him
It was good entertainment. I was always amazed by the conspiracies and wacky stuff people believe. Fun entertainment.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 09:40 PM
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27. Can't stand Noory and I used to be an avid fan of CtC
I used to love tuning in to Coast to Coast and listening to Art Bell. Then Noory took over.

One night, Noory was interviewing some nutcase who was planning YET ANOTHER "expedition" to Mt. Ararat to find Noah's Ark.

Noory went to great pains to make the statement "What if this turns out to be TRUE? Imagine how STUPID atheists are going to feel"

From that point on, I've never listened to Coast to Coast when Noory is on. Which is always, it seems.
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TuxedoKat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-11 11:01 PM
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28. Ian Punnett
on CtoC on Saturday night is a really good interviewer. He has interesting guests and he doesn't let them get away with crazy statements.
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Mariana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 04:26 PM
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39. Ian has improved a great deal and now he's very good.
He used to drive me crazy asking the same questions over and over again (after they'd been answered), or ignoring interesting things the guest said because he was wanting to jump in and tell some goofy-ass joke. Now, he does it right, and he does have the most interesting guests and topics.
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-11 11:05 PM
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29. It's bad when a woo-woo quits a woo-woo show.
The Venusians will be very upset.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 12:03 AM
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30. He dissociated himself from reality a long time ago.
Remember The Day After Tomorrow? It's all from Bell's "Global Superstorm" bullshit.
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 01:01 AM
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32. BTW, there are at least two different Classic Art Bell shoutcast stations.
You can find them here at ShoutCast. You might be able to search and find others.

Snorey Norry sucks.

PB
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 12:20 PM
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34. Always infuriating to listen to because Bell rarely asked pointed, skeptical questions...
of his guests.

But hey, that's entertainment!
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Hugabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 01:01 PM
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35. Just once, it would have been nice to hear "Are you out of your fucking mind?"
Occasionally I would tune in if I happened to be driving late at night, if I didn't want to listen to music and didn't really have much else to listen to. I was always amazed at the topics that would come up, and the people who would call in, many of whom actually seemed to believe this shit. I always find it amazing, that in the 21st century, with the wealth of knowledge available to us, that so many people still believe in woo-woo shit.
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 02:20 PM
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36. He had a couple of good interviews with Terence McKenna
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 02:22 PM
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37. little people at the center of the earth! lol!!!!!!!!!!!
:rofl:
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Earth_First Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 04:31 PM
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40. Noorys' programming is continually hosting folks peddling something...
a book, a dvd, a website subscription etc.

His advertising for skoreit.com, e-foods direct, and goldline are beyond pale.

C2C lost me years ago...
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May Hamm Donating Member (244 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 07:42 PM
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41. I'm new to C to C and I like it

Over the past year I've listened a couple dozen times and I found it entertaining. Nobody has of yet caused me to switch to their point of view but they have caused many smiles. I only know Art Bell by reputation so his disassociating himself really doesn't mean anything to me.
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aaaaaa5a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 09:05 PM
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44. You should have been there during the good old days of C2C nt
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 08:45 PM
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42. Noory's a TOOL pal of Jerome CORSI swiftBOT a-hole n/t
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MiddleFingerMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 09:03 PM
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43. Art Bell -- the ONLY thing that stole more sleep from me was the potential of sexual activity.
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A living breathing paradox: A surly old curmudgeonly genius with a sense of humor
and a chronically skeptical pessimist with an open, hopeful mind.
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One night, I actually did hear him end an interview abruptly (I don't remember which
one) by telling the subject he was full of shit and he was not going to allow him to
disseminate his crap anymore (not a quote).
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I would turn off the radio in disappointment every time Noory was subbing for Bell.
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And the show lost me completely when Noory took over as permanent host and Bell only
came back to do his Halloween night "Ghost-to-Ghost" shows.
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Noory always seemed to me a disingenous rightwing fundie (and not closet, neither).
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forty6 Donating Member (849 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 10:56 PM
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48. I'm pretty sure I went to college with Art Bell...and ...
worked at the same college radio station.....

Heard him at various points in his career......if he's gone to American radio, it's a big loss.

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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-11 06:39 PM
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51. Isn't Chem-Trails one of their crazy ideas?
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1776Forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-11 06:45 PM
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52. I will miss Art. I have listened a couple of times to George N & he really pushes the anti-Obama
stuff and those that do it on his shows. I guess it was only a matter of time before Coast-to-Coast was "bought" and Norry with it.
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