Worst Democratic SOTU Address ever?

[Karmadillo]

I cannot believe I'm sitting here talking to the television as if a Republican were giving the SOTU. I know nobody said living in a declining empire would be fun, but Christ, this just sucks.

[amerikat]

1. no

[Skink]

2. There is a republican giving the address.

[Leopolds Ghost]

24. It's not that bad. Considering what's ACTUALLY being proposed, the speech itself is quite liberal.

Obama is obviously positioning himself to push a barrage of centrist bills that Republicans used to support and they can't possibly object to, but are nevertheless to the left of the current Republican party.

[Leopolds Ghost]

30. And he made a few commitments that I didn't expect him to make - tacking to the LEFT on a few things

Saying we shouldn't tie people's Social Security to the stock market like his blue ribbon commission wanted to do after the midterms... promoting high speed rail (no applause from either side of the aisle)...

Then again, he wants to freeze the Federal Gov't non-defense spending for five years.

[Egalitariat]

Glass half empty? I'd call it the BEST Republican SOTU ever!

[Hello_Kitty]

3. For reals. Free trade out the wazoo and spending cuts. eom

[Cant trust em]

8. Is a cut the same as a freeze? nt

[Hello_Kitty]

33. He said things needed to be CUT.

This freeze will require painful cuts. Already, we have frozen the salaries of hardworking federal employees for the next two years. I’ve proposed cuts to things I care deeply about, like community action programs. The Secretary of Defense has also agreed to cut tens of billions of dollars in spending that he and his generals believe our military can do without.

[Cant trust em]

40. True enough. Are you opposed to cuts in defense spending? nt

[Hannah Bell]

57. they're fake cuts.

[dflprincess]

41. So the military only has to cut things they decide they can do without

but programs that might actually help people just get cut? Not surprising, but it still makes me grind my teeth.

[Leopolds Ghost]

44. Freeze on non-defense spending - an article by Ike's daughter - defense spendng TWICE pre-911 levels

[maryf]

58. 54 to 58% of the entire budget, nt.

[liberal N proud]

4. Whatever

[tridim]

5. Impeach him!

Let's hear your speech.

[SkyDaddy7]

59. WTF?

I am with you people just like to complain! I know what Obama said last night was the FACTS on how America must go forward!

I do not care what others say I like OUR President & he is not a Republican! I mean seriously WTF?

People hate that he is promoting creating new industry as if there is another route to job creation?

I agree with you lets hear their speech!

[A wise Man]

65. Impeach him for "WHAT"??????????

[mucifer]

6. You forgot Clinton with his 3 strikes laws and nafta and welfare reform nt

[Taverner]

7. I didn't think it was so bad

It's not monumental, but hell, not every speech has to be monumental

What I got from it:

- We (current administration) are committed to studying and preparing for climate change

- We (current administration) are committed to capitalism, in all of its iterations

[Raine]

9. Same old, same old

so generatic could've been give by Raygun.

[aaaaaa5a]

10. Are you serious? The Pres is doing great! NT

[HighLowRoller87]

22. I agree. I don't get it. Maybe it will change when we hear the Republican/Teabag Response

[undeterred]

11. Republicans are cheering instead of yelling at him.

[Renew Deal]

12. I think people have forgotten what a republican speech sounds like.

war, war, war, terror, terror, 9/11, 9/11, 9/11, 9/11, 9/11, 9/11, 9/11, 9/11, 9/11, 9/11, 9/11, 9/11, 9/11, 9/11, 9/11, 9/11, 9/11, 9/11, 9/11, 9/11, 9/11, tax cuts, tax cuts, tax cuts, tax cuts, tax cuts, tax cuts, tax cuts, tax cuts, tax cuts, tax cuts, tax cuts, tax cuts, tax cuts, tax cuts, tax cuts, tax cuts, tax cuts, tax cuts, tax cuts, tax cuts, tax cuts, tax cuts, tax cuts, tax cuts, tax cuts, tax cuts, Iraq, Afghanistan, Al Queda, Iraq, Afghanistan, Al Queda, Iraq, Afghanistan, Al Queda, Iraq, Afghanistan, Al Queda, Iraq, Afghanistan, Al Queda, Iraq, Afghanistan, Al Queda, Iraq, Afghanistan, Al Queda, Iraq, Afghanistan, Al Queda, Iraq, Afghanistan, Al Queda, Iraq, Afghanistan, Al Queda, Iraq, Afghanistan, Al Queda, add a few more, rinse, repeat

[Raine]

18. well Obama just said that recruiters and ROTC

should be back on college campus' after those of us in the 60s-70s fought so hard to get them kicked off.

[bdamomma]

26. caught that and said what the hell?

[Renew Deal]

29. So

That doesn't change that this isn't even in the universe of a Bush speech

[Raine]

38. No but it's troublesome. Why the need to recruit, what is the point of

encouraging these people on a college campus. Is there no plan to end these endless wars, what do they need recruits for.

[okieinpain]

69. so you don't like the military. n/t.

[Raine]

71. ????? nt

[rug]

13. Here's Buchanan's.

http://teachingamericanhistory.org/library/index.asp?do...

[Erose999]

62. Some things never change...

"The claimants have already received a large proportion of the sums awarded to them out of the fund provided, and it is confidently expected that the remainder will ere long be entirely paid. After the awards shall have been satisfied there will remain a surplus of more than $200,000 at the disposition of Congress. As this will, in equity, belong to the Chinese Government, would not justice require its appropriation to some benevolent object in which the Chinese may be specially interested? "

[rug]

70. Lol, good catch.

[Teaser]

14. Worst Democratic Underground Thread Ever?

got my vote.

[dennis4868]

16. yep....

I am out of here for the night....the IRRATIONAL Obama Haters are out and about....good night.

[Pisces]

19. +1 for me.

[Maru Kitteh]

39. +1001

[NYC Liberal]

48. My vote as well nt

[cali]

56. no, but it ranks pretty high.

[Bobbie Jo]

67. Damn close...but hey, it's early. nt

[Still a Democrat]

15. Name three major points in three other Democratic SOTU addresses

You can't even do that, so how would you begin to know this is the worst, silly.

[bluestate10]

17. Judging from the reaction.

I would have liked the speech if I had listened it. Sounds like it was moderate.

[Kahuna]

34. It was moderate. It's his opening salvo to Campaign 2012. nt

[napi21]

20. You're wrong. Go back to yelling at your TV and leave us alone! nt

[Buzz Clik]

21. He's fanstastic.

Sorry you can't see it.

[NYC Liberal]

23. I'm watching a liberal Democratic president. Don't know

what SOTU you are watching.

[The Magistrate]

25. It Has Been A Little Wearing, My Friend

It is tiresome to hear men who know better mouth pablum tailored to the sensibilities of the ignorant and the foolish, and when they do it well, somehow it can wear even worse.

"It ain't what you don't know, it's what you know that ain't so'll get you every time."

[Karmadillo]

53. Indeed, my friend.

One hates to see Reaganesque sentiments elbow their way into an FDR moment.

On a brighter note, it's good to see you posting. With DU's 10 year anniversary, I was thinking of you and some of the others who made this such a great place back in the day. Hope things are going well.

[Safetykitten]

27. Probably.

[fishwax]

28. no.

[flvegan]

31. Funny.

Many of the responses here, not the OP.

[undeterred]

32. On CBS they're talking about his "Reagan moment".

I'm going to puke and turn off the televsion now.

[Leopolds Ghost]

37. If he wanted to transform the Federal tax structure, go for a national Sales Tax

My organization's accountant turned me onto that idea, it would transform US politics. All Americans would get a flat rebate like citizens of Alaska, which would replace (and be much greater than) the EITC. A national sales tax with corporate income tax, graduated estate tax, eliminate the estate tax loophole and replace it with an estate tax exemption on land and privately owned small businesses (so that people aren't forced to liquidate farms and businesses when the owner dies) and premiums on luxury goods would force the wealthy to pay their fair share.

[Renew Deal]

49. Reagan won 49 states in 1984.

[Arkana]

35. Looks like someone forgot to latch the cage door on the Angry Dome.

[jonnyblitz]

55. i noticed YOU are the one getting posts deleted.

project much?

[DCBob]

36. He's trying to be the President of all the United States not just liberal United States..

He has to or we are doomed.

[Leopolds Ghost]

42. We are doomed?

[dflprincess]

45. Oh please when has he ever tracked left?

he's decided to be president of corporate American when we needed a president of working America - but working America can't reward him well enough to make us worth his time.

[Bruno2]

43. The Military Chiefs

Didn't look very happy when he was discussing the repeal of don't ask don't tell.

[Ikonoklast]

46. At least you are consistent.

Does the Socialist Paradise seem further away, Comrade?

[cottonseed]

47. You posted this before it even started.

[southernyankeebelle]

50. Am a social democrat and I think it was just about good as it was going to get. At least he didn't

throw social security and medicare under the bus.

[Canuckistanian]

51. My impression as well

Not so much the points, but Obama used conservative/Republican framing throughout the whole speech. I don't know how he call himself a Democrat.

[Erose999]

64. He can call himself a Democrat because his legion of fans on DU let him get away with it.

They fall for the talk.

[hack89]

52. No nt

[MaeScott]

54. He has high marks for the speech. I think..no, not the worst. Txbai

[blindpig]

60. So what is the difference between...

the Democratic Party and the Republican Party?

In matters of economics and foreign policy you need an electron microscope to find them.

[Name removed]

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[dionysus]

66. fauxbama? what does that mean?

[dionysus]

63. try harder, you can do much better.

god bless.

[SidDithers]

68. Comedy gold...

don't ever stop.

Sid

[crazyjoe]

72. nothing to worry about, why would he start delivering on his promises now?