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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-02-14 04:19 PM
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What happened to the First Amendment after Ellsberg?
Edited on Sun Feb-02-14 04:40 PM by No Elephants
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Read the Constitution, as the Framers first put it out to the colonists for ratification, without the amendments. It's a power-usurping, big business protecting decree. It wasn't farmers who were worried about interstate commerce and piracy on the high seas. It was importers and exporters (including of human beings), the big business of that day.

It was not the Framers, but state legislators and the people who demanded the Bill of Rights. The Framers were not worried about the federal government arresting them for something they said the way the King had. The people were. We still are.

The more things change, the more they stay the same.

How did the people get away with demanding the Bill of Rights? IMO, because the Framers had recently seen them overthrow the king of England, that's how.

I've paid a lot of taxes. I have never resented a penny that has gone to people in need. In my view, that is the obligation--and privilege--of decent human beings who want to live in a society and benefit from a society and are able to help. And no, it cannot be done for all the needy on a private basis. That's bullshit.

But, I am really beginning to resent every penny maintaining the Supreme Court, which simply votes on party lines most of the time--like a second legislature that can never be voted out, a lot of the Executive Branch and a lot of Congress. That they think they should live and work in luxury on our dime is insane. That we allow them so to do is even more insane.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-03-14 05:09 AM
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1. I liked that thread,
even though I didn't comment on it. The usual suspects were out defending the status quo.

Denver Bronco's general manager John Elway was quoted as saying, "I'm a Republican, I don't believe in safety nets." He reportedly has a net worth of 145 million. Of course he cannot fathom the need for a safety net. I'm glad they lost, and in such a dramatic fashion.

I share your contempt for the supreme court.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-03-14 05:34 AM
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2. Does he claim to be a job creator, too?
Edited on Mon Feb-03-14 06:34 AM by No Elephants
The creators of jobs, including Elway's, and of wealth are the 99%. Thinking otherwise is the height of delusional self-centeredness.

Thing is, the 99% should have boycotted him, his team and their sponsors as soon as he made that incredibly stupid and inhuman remark. And we didn't.

I think we need at least two kinds of websites. One, so everyone in the US can be informed when something like this is said. Who said it, whom to boycott (or what other action to take) etc. I don't mean just posting the story. I mean very specific and clear instructions on what {legal} action to take (beyond contacting your Rep, Senators, state house or the White House). If a demonstration is planned, when and where to show up. I would hope that every nation would have such a website.

The other would do the same on an international level.

I wish I could program.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-03-14 09:43 AM
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3. I'm sure he believes he is God's gift to job creation.
They all think that way, mostly.
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