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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-28-13 06:47 AM
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Obama was caught in an uncharacteristic moment of loose language. Referring to working-class voters in old industrial towns decimated by job losses, the presidential hopeful said: "They get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment s a way to explain their frustrations."

The comments were seized on by his rival for the Democratic party candidacy, Hillary Clinton, who saw in them the hope of reviving her flagging campaign by turning voters in the important Pennsylvania primary on April 22 against what she classed as Obama's revealed "elitism".

"I was taken aback by the demeaning remarks Senator Obama made about people in small-town America," she said on Saturday. "His remarks are elitist and out of touch." Clinton campaigners in North Carolina handed out stickers saying: "I'm not bitter."

Obama's comments are potentially incendiary in the Pennsylvania rust belt. Analysts speculated that the remarks could give white working-class voters the excuse they needed not to vote for Obama, whose candidacy has been regarded with scepticism in the state but had shown some signs of growing momentum.

The comments came to light as a result of the Huffington Post's groundbreaking experiment in citizen journalism, Off The Bus. The website runs a network of about 1,800 unpaid researchers, interviewers and writers.

One of those writers, Mayhill Fowler, broke the story, despite being a paid-up supporter of Obama. She attended a fundraising event in San Francisco on April 6 and recorded Obama's speech.

Fowler sat on the material for days, conflicted about what to do with it. She only published the comments last Friday.


http://www.theguardian.com/world/2008/apr/14/barackobam...


Odd. In 2008, the "anti-trade" part of that comment never so much as registered on me. Shows how, once we have made up our minds, our senses tend to perceive only what supports our conclusions.


Anti-trade and pro gun?


On a separate topic:

Why is it that people who secretly record things harmful to candidates always seem to be supporters of those candidates who are all conflicted about releasing the info?

The woman Weiner sexted claimed that she was originally a supporter of his, but found a reason to go to media, anyway.

The woman who recorded the above, was supposedly a supporter of Obama.

The guy who released a recording of Romney's 47% speech supposedly recorded it only because he was so excited to be in a room with a Presidential candidate, but the recording somehow found its way to Carter's grandson.

Color me skeptical.Obama was caught in an uncharacteristic moment of loose language. Referring to working-class voters in old industrial towns decimated by job losses, the presidential hopeful said: "They get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."

The comments were seized on by his rival for the Democratic party candidacy, Hillary Clinton, who saw in them the hope of reviving her flagging campaign by turning voters in the important Pennsylvania primary on April 22 against what she classed as Obama's revealed "elitism".

"I was taken aback by the demeaning remarks Senator Obama made about people in small-town America," she said on Saturday. "His remarks are elitist and out of touch." Clinton campaigners in North Carolina handed out stickers saying: "I'm not bitter."

Obama's comments are potentially incendiary in the Pennsylvania rust belt. Analysts speculated that the remarks could give white working-class voters the excuse they needed not to vote for Obama, whose candidacy has been regarded with scepticism in the state but had shown some signs of growing momentum.

The comments came to light as a result of the Huffington Post's groundbreaking experiment in citizen journalism, Off The Bus. The website runs a network of about 1,800 unpaid researchers, interviewers and writers.

One of those writers, Mayhill Fowler, broke the story, despite being a paid-up supporter of Obama. She attended a fundraising event in San Francisco on April 6 and recorded Obama's speech.

Fowler sat on the material for days, conflicted about what to do with it. She only published the comments last Friday.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2008/apr/14/barackobam...

Why is it that people who secretly record things harmful to candidates always seem to be supporters of those candidates who are all conflicted about releasing the info?

The woman Weiner sexted claimed that she was originally a supporter of his, but found a reason to go to media, anyway.

The woman who recorded the above, was supposedly a supporter of Obama.

The guy who released a recording of Romney's 47% speech supposedly recorded it only because he was so excited to be in a room with a Presidential candidate, but the recording somehow found its way to Carter's grandson.

Color me skeptical.

Mind you, I am glad for any truthful info that hits the media.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-28-13 11:03 AM
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1. I don't find that people are so anti-trade as
they are pro-fairness.

If China can manufacture goods that we used to manufacture, ship these goods half way around the world and still make a profit, this is the very definition of unfair trade. They have an unfair advantage because they subsidize this manufacturing. They have no health and safety, environmental or labor rights limitations. This is unfair competition. Only someone that hates the American worker would propose these free-trade agreements. Yes, I said "Hates". It would take a psychologist to understand why. The president doesn't have a deep seated hatred of white people as Glenn Beck so foolishly proclaimed.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-28-13 11:42 AM
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2. He lumped anti trade in with xenophobia. How did I miss that?
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