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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-23-13 01:02 AM
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On Deen: Yes, the racist stuff is beyond the pale. On the other hand, the
Edited on Sun Jun-23-13 01:43 AM by No Elephants
worst thing that Paula Deen can do for me is, if I choose to tune in to her show, offer me a recipe for a dish that I should not make. And she's gotten more air time for in the last week than the Afghan Occupation, where we've been getting nowhere, while bleeding money, lives and limbs for longer than it took us to defeat both Germany and Japan in WWII. And I have no option to change the channel. So, I try to keep it in perspective.

Maybe it's something about cooking shows?


PBS once put on a cooking show by the Carraba brothers of Carraba's restaurant chain fame.

In 2001 (the week of 911, in fact), I had been to the Houston location, which was still operated by the Carraba family members who founded the chain. A cousin regularly takes a huge table there once a week--whichever family members and friends of his who want to show up. They don't even have to RSVP. So, they indulge him by serving family style. As a result, I got to sample several dishes and several desserts.

I really enjoyed the food, and I live in what is supposedly one of the meccas of Italian restaurants in the U.S. So, I was pysched about getting some of their recipes and cooking tips.

I watched one and a half an episode and could not bear to watch any more.

In that short time, I had heard the two chuckle together over just about every racial, ethnic and religious stereotype known to U.S. humankind. It was relentless.

What made it worse for me was that they seemed totally oblivious to how horrid and bigoted they were being. Just two good-natured, likeable good ole boys, havin' big fun chatting and laughing amiably, while cooking them up a storm.

:puke:

After the first show, I thought maybe they were done with schtick, so I tuned in again, but it was more of the same. As far as I know, PBS never renewed them. I hope not, anyway.

Then, there's this about allegedly racist, sexist and homophobic remarks from Food Network's Guy Fieri. http://gothamist.com/2011/10/13/guy_fieri_lawsuit_gets_...

That, too, was revealed by sworn testimony in a lawsuit. Food Network fired Deen as soon as her deposition hit the fan, but Cieri is still doing fine on the Food Network. In a press release, not under oath, of course, "his team" denied the testimony. Maybe that made the difference for the Food Network?

And, Alton Brown, on the Food Network, supposedly contributes heavily to anti-gay causes and is not above race "humor."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1018280935

http://persephonemagazine.com/2012/04/04/what-i-watched... /

Hard to believe that the Food Network is unaware of that.

Alton Brown is still doing fine on the Food Network, too, though Deen got fired right away.


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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-23-13 07:09 AM
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1. I enjoy reading your thoughts on this, No Elephants.
I had no idea that Alton Brown was anti-gay. Maybe he has a little touch of teh gay himself?

My parents, both of the "greatest generation", were under the influence of every racial, ethnic and religious stereotype. But, believe it or not, there wasn't an evil bone in their bodies. They were simply a product of the time.

Where I live there isn't much ethnic, racial and religious diversity as in urban areas. So there was actually no one to be offended. About the closest thing to an ethnic group around here were second generation Middle Eastern-Lebanese-Syrian Catholic and Italian immigrants. I reached adulthood having never interacted with a black person or Jew. Seriously. We are mostly backwoods hicks here, for the most part. When I went to work in the nearby "city" I was told in no uncertain terms that "ni**ers" were bad news. Basically everything about them was bad, or so it was pointed out to me, since I was so ignorant. Although these are more enlightened times racism persists.

The late 20th Century! What an amazing time!
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-23-13 09:18 AM
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2. I don't know all the causes of racism--or all the cause of true egalitariansim.
Edited on Sun Jun-23-13 09:26 AM by No Elephants
I think humankind has always had people who were xenophobic, racist, etc., those who judged people solely on behavior, those who were in between and those who changed
, for better or for worse, as they got older.

And, maybe also people who were one way or another, depending on who they were with and who they thought might be listening because their convicctions for good or ill were not that strong.
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