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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-09-13 10:24 AM
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Thank you, No Elephants. Sounds like Jon Keller
is a regular RW media mouthpiece. A disgrace, in your words.

Geesh, another one?! It's the corporate message, 24/7. It's never in our best interest and it is calculated to misinform at every turn.

Look at MSNBC, for example. They were making inroads and were gaining a market share. Then they found Big Ed to be too radical and critical of the status quo. They kicked him upstairs to the weekend. Same with Cenk and Olbermann. Since the Ed move their ratings have plummeted. Viewers watching MSNBC are already highly suspicious "news" consumers.

Then Maddow pronounced anyone that harbored doubts about the official 911 story as crazy conspiracy tin foil hat nutters. I've never watched her program since. How many ways can she be wrong? PNAC said, clearly, that "we" needed a new American Pearl Harbor attack. Anyone that doesn't think something is fishy about 911 is brain dead. I don't listen to corporate spokesmen, or women.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-10-13 01:09 PM
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1. Thanks, Enthusiast
The catch 22 in which Keller found himself--whether he realized it or not--was that he halfway admitted that Massachusetts was in good fiscal health today.

Only someone who is brain dead would say that none of that is attributable to the man who has been in office for the last seven years or to the Democratic legislature, but is due only to Governors in office from 1991-2001, one of whom actually gave a tax rebate (as did his Lt. Gov.)

As far as MSNBC, as they told Cenk, they are "establishment." When Cenk was told to come up with a new show, his ratings were second only to Maddows. Same thing when Ed got kicked into weekends, somewhere between Harris-Perry, the biggest twit on MSNBC, and the soul-numbing prison shows.

However, now that Schultz has been re-assigned to ratings hell, Ed's ratings probably will go down and they can fire him for a neutral reason.

And Ed was not exactly a huge critic of Obama. He was certainly all for him at re-election time, when it mattered.
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And, like all MSNBC folk, Schultz seemed oblivious to the existence of any party other than the Republicrats and the Demlicans.

But, their job is not being objective or even uber informative. It's being pro-establishment.

I find Maddow and O'Donnell boring. They seem to to me to drone on endlessly and I've caught O'Donnell in some untruths that I am fairly certain he knew to be untruths when he spoke them.

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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-10-13 01:19 PM
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2. Btw, I posted this on seafan's thread about the Security State
Edited on Mon Jun-10-13 01:25 PM by No Elephants
http://sync.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.p...

I also recommend fatster's new round up at firedoglake. It's not news writing, per se, but it is a collection of links to interesting news stories.

MSNBC, meh. In the early part of the day, it's Republicans pretending to be balanced (Mika and Joe) or objective. Later in the day, it's...I am not even sure how to describe it.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-12-13 06:47 AM
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3. Yeah.
I don't find Republicans pretending to be balanced particularly appealing. That's what we see on Fox 24/7.

There are too many professional misinformationists on the TV and internet. I am growing weary of the bullshit.

As far as the NSA and DU3 goes you would be surprised to find a majority of posters have come down hard on the President. Now, this majority is growing less vocal by the day and some threads especially critical of the President have simply disappeared. But, I have been pleasantly surprised by the response. Of course the cheerleader brigade will never change.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-12-13 01:39 PM
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4. I think Joe and Mika are more dangerous than Fox. People who think they are
getting objectivity from Fox are as silly as the people who think they are getting objectivity from MSNBC in the afternoon and evening; and both groups are beyond my ability or patience to reason with people.

But, the pretense on Morning Joe is a lot more insidious. In my opinion, anyway.

As far as the NSA and DU3 goes you would be surprised to find a majority of posters have come down hard on the President.


A majority? Really? I am beyond surprised. I am floored.

I am especially surprised because I read somewhere while lurking around on some board or other--don't recall where--that there had been a "purge" of liberals recently. No idea if that is truth or fantasy, but I did read it somewhere.

BTW, does anyone even say "floored" anymore? And what does it mean anyway?

This?

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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-12-13 02:08 PM
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5. Oops. I just saw that, on seafan's thread, I bet my home that a majority on
DU3 were rationalizing the mass snoop.

I guess I lost my home, but I am not sure who I lost it to. No one seems to have taken the bet.

Oh, well, I'll just stay here as a squatter until the winner, if any, comes to collect.

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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-13-13 05:59 AM
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6. I guess we are both "floored".
Maybe that means we ended up on the floor out of shock. Or something.

There is just no way to sweep this under the rug. The NSA thing isn't the least bit surprising to me considering the crazy appointments and decisions made by this administration. We appear to have a continuation of the Dubya Administration, mostly.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-13-13 06:08 AM
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7. Ari Fleischer called it Bush's fourth term, but how would he know?
http://www.politico.com/story/2013/06/nsa-phone-records...

Obama called it "forward," as opposed to all the polticians who campagn on "backward."


And, once again, Back to the Future comes to mind as we go "forward" into the past.

However, since we do not want to prosecute Bushco, we must look only forward, while carrying out Bush's fourth term. Tricky manuever, that.
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