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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-04-13 01:41 PM
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Here we might find some clues
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-05-13 04:30 AM
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1. right on!
if we want universal care for our citizens, we're going to have to keep demanding it from our cowardly politicians that say it can't be done. the largesse that was directed towards the rich over the past 40 years has been sickening. there are over a hundred million poor people in our country, and millions of rich folks who couldn't survive on what many of us live off of, without a mental breakdown!

and that list showing well-being and health being so important is something we're going to continue to struggle against having because the haves don't particularly care about the have-nots, and whether we drop over or not! We need a couple hundred Alan Grayson's in the House, and 60 Bernie Sanders' in the Senate - and a whole hellalot less teanuts like Coburn & Paul. Fortunately, the wicked witch of Minn. is retiring! So, that's a start...
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-05-13 04:34 AM
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2. ps - seeing the wealth increase dramatically for the wealthy because of stocks
just makes this more aggravating ----- "Oct 20, 2011 Half Of Americans Made Less Than $27,000 Last Year" there's a lot more people struggling that maybe aren't officially "poor" but they struggle to get by, and there's surely then, well over 100M people barely able to get by in this country while a few million are living like kings and queens.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-14-13 03:47 AM
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12. You just don't want a monarch.
See, you are prejudiced against monarchs.

I keed. :hi:
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-05-13 08:03 AM
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4. I don't know about demanding, DD.
They know very well what we want.

We want jobs for Americans.

We want education for our kids that they don't have to spend the first twenty years out of college paying off.

We want medicare for all.

We want an end to corporate welfare.

We don't a tax system that enables companies like G.E. and Facebook to owe zero in taxes.

We don't want the religious beliefs of others forced on us.

And so on.

They already KNOW all that. They don't seem to give a crap.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-05-13 08:03 AM
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5. Deleted. duplicate post
Edited on Wed Jun-05-13 08:04 AM by No Elephants
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-14-13 03:45 AM
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11. I like the way you think, DD!
60 Bernie Sanders'! We could get shit done!
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-05-13 07:59 AM
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3. More places to find clues as to why this country now sucks.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-06-13 06:08 AM
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6. "the Republican Party swallowed the Democratic Party."
Corporations swallowed them both.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-06-13 09:35 AM
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7. True, but Republicans are up front about it.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-13-13 05:24 AM
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8. We must continue with the
"good cop - bad cop" illusion (mostly). With the help of the media this is one illusion that is difficult to dispel.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-14-13 12:49 AM
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9. As I see it, the Democrats have no choice but to do that.
Edited on Fri Jun-14-13 01:00 AM by No Elephants
Republicans have the luxury of honesty. They were always openly the party of the wealthy--the coupon clippers who had inherited their money and big business. Well, maybe not always. I don't know about Lincoln's era. At least one time, he mocked the Democrats for being rich.

But, certainly by Truman's day, Democrats were portraying themselves as the party of the little "guy" ("the little woman" having a whole other meaning).

And how can you gin up anti "the other side" emotions enough to GOTV if people perceive both parties as too similar? As it is, huge amounts of Americans don't show up at the polls, especially if the election does not involve the Presidency.

Soon, the vote will cease to matter. Maybe it already has.

After all the brouhaha over "stolen elections," Democrats get Congress and the White House and do what, exactly, to help prevent more "stolen" elections? Well, Waxman held hearings to prove just how easy stealing elections was. No doubt that impressed all three regular viewers of C-Span. Having proved that, Democrats, who supposedly owe their jobs, power and ability to make money outside their day jobs, to clean elections fought for those things by doing what?

Meanwhile, when asked why he did not pursue his claim of a stolen election, Kerry said "I did not want to look like a sore loser."

:wtf:

The guy lived his whole life trying to follow in JFK's footsteps into the Oval Office; and he thinks that he finally won the Presidency, but he just let it go out of some elementary schoolyard concern about what?

Child, please.

(Well, there's another "all over the map " post that proves I have ADD. Too bad I didn't know it while I was in school.)
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-14-13 03:43 AM
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10. Yeah, I was disappointed in Kerry.
Still am.

They are going to put you at the top of "the list". It's the list for when they start up the ovens again.
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