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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-13 11:42 AM
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Neither RFK Or RFKjr. Believed The Lone Gunman Theory
"Robert F. Kennedy Jr. said his father spent a year trying to come to grips with his brother's death, reading the work of Greek philosophers, Catholic scholars, Henry David Thoreau, poets and others "trying to figure out kind of the existential implications of why a just God would allow injustice to happen of the magnitude he was seeing."
He said his father thought the Warren Commission, which concluded Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone in killing the president, was a "shoddy piece of craftsmanship." He said that he, too, questioned the report
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"The evidence at this point I think is very, very convincing that it was not a lone gunman," he said, but he didn't say what he believed may have happened.
Rose asked if he believed his father, the U.S. attorney general at the time of his brother's death, felt "some sense of guilt because he thought there might have been a link between his very aggressive efforts against organized crime."

Kennedy replied: "I think that's true. He talked about that. He publicly supported the Warren Commission report but privately he was dismissive of it."
He said his father had investigators do research into the assassination and found that phone records of Oswald and nightclub owner Jack Ruby, who killed Oswald two days after the president's assassination, "were like an inventory" of mafia leaders the government had been investigating.
He said his father, later elected U.S. senator in New York, was "fairly convinced" that others were involved."...cont...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/12/assassination-...
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-13 01:28 PM
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1. Why would they believe it.
The assassination of Oswald by Ruby proves it was no a lone wolf act. The whole world knows it.

Kennedy probably didn't want to go along with the expansion of the military industrial complex. He very like did not want to get involved in Vietnam. He had to die. Today the nation is in the grip of these same ultra right powers. They are more bold than ever.
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-13 03:02 PM
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2. Operation Northwoods
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-13 08:21 AM
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7. Well, there ya go.
And talk of a false flag operation on 911 are shunted off to the dungeon. Why? When that is the single most plausible explanation.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-13 04:11 PM
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3. yes, it seems like it was so easy to get the country to believe whatever they wanted to back then
but, today, most people wouldn't believe their ridiculous report and would question it more directly. It sad he didn't challenge it publicly, but I understand, they were in fear and highly cautious, I'm sure.
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-13 05:34 PM
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4. Wasn't Hoover still
around then? Goddess, that was 50 years ago this November. I remember seeing Oswald murdered
on live TV. Even as a child, I thought...'Now why would he kill him? Now we can't get his story.' You knew something didn't smell right.

I remember when Marilyn Monroe died. As a child I was a big fan of hers. I loved 'Some Like it Hot.' And to this day I enjoy a good drag queen show.

Anyway, I was sitting having breakfast at some diner-type place w/ my dad and one of his buddies. My dad was reading the paper and said that Marilyn Monroe had committed SUICIDE. I was aghast. I slammed on the table and said, "There is no way that Marilyn Monroe killed herself." I went on and on. Finally my dad said, 'Well, that's just what the paper says. I don't know if she did or not.' I just couldn't have people thinking that she had killed herself when she hadn't.

For all I know, Nixon could have been behind JFK's murder....got some gangsters/CIA dudes/mercenaries. There are so many evil ones out there, it's tough to pick and choose.

Hell, it's gone thru my mind that what happened at Newtown could have been planned (please don't ban me...I'm just thinking.) Do you know that there is this National Gun Sporting Organization headquartered in Newtown? I'd never heard of the organization...just the NRA. All of the classy folks in Newtown belonged to it...and went target practicing. It was marketed as 'Family Fun.' Getting women and kids into guns is the only way to 'grow the business.'

I just have questions...and maybe I missed the answers since I don't watch MSM TV....but there was some dude coming out of the woods beside the school w/ cameos on in handcuffs and he kept saying, 'I didn't do it.' Did anyone find out what his story was???

And then when that CT Sheriff or State Trooper came out banging the microphones about 'The only information that can be put on Social Media is from what I say. And if it isn't, you will be subject to arrest.' WTF was that all about?

I just like to have my questions answered. And now someone on TV said that they're thinking of taxing ammo 50%. Now, isn't that a little much? I mean there are poor people out in the country who hunt for their food. In fact, that's the only reason for hunting, IMHO. Not for some damn taxidermist to put a head of an animal on one's wall...but that's just my opinion. What's the word people use when things seem a bit off....HINKY?

Sorry if I offended but I like to see the blame go to where it belongs. And I never did hear the results of the Geneticist who examined Adam's DNA....for a schizophrenia marker. That would explain A LOT. If he was hearing words telling him to kill his mother and children...I know this first hand. My cousin beat the hell out 2 guys because 'voices in his head' told him they were rapists. That's when we all found out he was schizophrenic.

It just blew my mind when I found out about that National Sporting Gun Assoc. being HQed in Newtown....big mansion w/ columns. This is a town of 25,000...not that big.

Oh, just give me my aluminum hat and I'll go watch the 9ers in peace! lol

Hey, divinediscontent....which game against Cincy are you talking about? 9ers beat them twice!! I bet a couple of people I knew in Cincy. Those were good games. Alas, now I google the players and see if they have a rap sheet!

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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-13 06:15 PM
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5. Personally I'd Like To Know What Jackie Thought
She taped her thoughts, some of which has been revealed. She and RFK were very close and I wonder if they shared the same thought about JFK's death/
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-13 01:42 AM
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6. oh yeah, would love to hear the tapes. also, would love to know the truth.
I believe it was some form of gov't insider revenge against him, but who knows...
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-13 05:25 AM
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9. Also, the mafia had delivered a state to JFK when he ran, at the request of Joe Kennedy.
And there was no payback. Far from it, Attorney General Bobby was investigating the mafia.

That has a lot of plausibility because Ruby was connected to the Mafia. Also, JFK slept with a girlfriend of some Mafioso. I can't recall he name right now. A friend told me that Larry King interviewd the woman and she said that the Mafia had cuased the hit, but, incredibly, King just asked his next question, instead of following up on her comment. Ah, Exner, That was her last name< I think.

So, it does not have to be MIC-related or CIA related.

And, then, there was the Bay of Pigs thing that the Eisenhower-Nixon administration had set up.

Indeed, people have suspected Nixon--not as the second shooter, of course, but in the background. Ditto JFK.

The amazing thing to me is that Earl Warren went along with it. And the Kennedys just stayed silent. Something new is coming out from Rory Kennedy, in which Ethel says that Bobby went to a very dark place after the assassination and even she could not reach through to him.

I think they all must have thought the country was going to fall apart, very literally, unless they put the thing to bed and, to the extent they could, left it there.

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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-13 05:47 AM
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10. Jackie thought it was LBJ that was responsible
The Mafia connections were very strong. Papa Kennedy made his fortune Rum Running during Prohibition.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-13 03:54 AM
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12. I know. But also the stock market.
Edited on Sun Jan-20-13 04:12 AM by No Elephants
I once met a man who was a Boston Brahmin by bloodline, but, according to him, the family fortune was gone before his time. He was a teacher.

Still, even penniless Brahmins considered themselves superior to non-Brahmins.

He told me what his penniless grandmum said when he had mentioned in her presence that he had voted for JFK.

"Steven, Jack Kennedy is lace curtain Irish with a whiskey fortune. You did not vote for him, and that is that."

I love it. Boston Brahamins had the power to change an event that had already occurred, just by saying so.



Must have stunned them when they couldn't get the Irish, and now the Italians, out of Boston's City Hall, including JFK's grandpappy.

J.P. Marquand wrote a novel about Boston Brahmins. one of his characters declares the family is moving immediately after seeing a neighbor on the stoop of his (the neighbor's) own townshouse without a jacket.


"And this is good old Boston,
The home of the bean and the cod,
Where the Lowells talk only to Cabots,
And the Cabots talk only to God."


The Delanos (as in FDR) were Brahmins, as were the Chaffees, the Sears, etc. The Adams family (no, not the T.V. one) were Brahmins. So were the Quincys. And the Welds. Speaking of whom, former Governor William Weld moved back to Massachusetts before Scott Brown lost and has been making appearances on local TV.

Word is he may be re-establishing Massachusetts residence so that he can run for Kerry's seat. I think either he or Brown would have a very good shot at it, so Democrats should put their shoulders to the wheel.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-13 07:16 AM
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11. L. Bird owned the construction company that built most of the bases in Viet Nam.
so, LBJ had a financial interest in pursuing the expansion of activities in Viet Nam.

The Grand Protector Cardinal Spellman made a big issue of letting Viet Nam fall, since the majority of the Elites in the Country were Catholic. He encouraged the Boys to press the issue.

The Lodge Brothers Had a Rubber Plantation there and were complaining of having to pay protection money to the VC, so they were in the mix as well.

JFK had a lot of people pissed-off.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-13 09:23 AM
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8. People were afraid to talk
JFK was a Traitor to their cause. His father was one of the 'Boys' and very well connected in a lot of places besides the US. My thinking is that he was convicted by their Tribunal (Yes, it exist. I met one of the members.) and they decided that JFK had to go. He was their boy and had great plans for him. When the Bay of Pigs failed, it was just a matter of time.
This is the same bunch that co-opted FDR. They think nothing of killing someone that gets in their way.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-13 04:11 AM
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13. Which "Boys?"
Do you mean the "Boyos?" Irish thugs, like Billy Bulger?
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