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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-12 04:51 AM
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Did James Carville really say this?
If so, he is an even bigger turd than I thought--and since i learned from Woodward that Carville tipped his wife off that Kerry might seek a recount while she was sitting in Cheney's office with Cheney and Woodward, i've thought of him as very large and odiferous turd.

Here is the alleged direct quote from Carville. (The website is one that collects quotes from all kinds of people. Maybe it was punked somehow? Or it is punking us?)

Ideologies aren't all that important. What's important is psychology.

The Democratic constituency is just like a herd of cows. All you have to do is lay out enough silage and they come running. That's why I became an operative working with Democrats. With Democrats all you have to do is make a lot of noise, lay out the hay, and be ready to use the ole cattle prod in case a few want to bolt the herd.

Eighty percent of the people who call themselves Democrats don't have a clue as to political reality.
What amazes me is that you could take a group of people who are hard workers and convince them that they should support social programs that were the exact opposite of their own personal convictions. Put a little fear here and there and you can get people to vote any way you want.

The voter is basically dumb and lazy. The reason I became a Democratic operative instead of a Republican was because there were more Democrats that didn't have a clue than there were Republicans.

Truth is relative. Truth is what you can make the voter believe is the truth. If you're smart enough, truth is what you make the voter think it is. That's why I'm a Democrat. I can make the Democratic voters think whatever I want them to.


http://en.thinkexist.com/quotes/James_Carville /

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FormerDittoHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-12 12:51 PM
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1. I can't find any source outside of "thinkexist.com" and they don't give THEIR source...
Edited on Sat Jul-21-12 12:53 PM by FormerDittoHead
A LOT of "echo chamber" quoting the thinkexist quote, but where is the *original* from?

Would you be SHOCKED to find out that some republican blogger just MADE IT UP?

on edit: not that I'm skeptical of him to begin with. I simply don't trust him for who he married.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-12 12:23 AM
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2. Thanks.
Edited on Sun Jul-22-12 12:32 AM by No Elephants
Once, I went looking for a quote attributed to Truman on DU by trumad--the one about voters, when faced with a choice between a fake Dem and real Rethug will choose the real Rethug. I could not find the original source anywhere, just lots of people quoting it.+ So, I thought trumad was mistaken.

Months later, I went looking again and I found the quote in a couple of speeches Truman made. Also found the quote on the website of the Truman Presidential library. I have no idea for the difference in the results of the two searches. (I had actually looked for the original source harder and longer the first time without finding it.)

But, no, I would not be shocked to find that some Republican blogger made it up.

Or that some Republican liar runs thinkexist, mixing things like this in with real quotes.

No dishonesty in politics surprises me anymore. That is why I asked if Carville really said it.

On the other hand, I also would not be surprised if Carville did say it, which is the other reason why I asked.

I would not bet a quarter on what Carville actually does when he has a ballot in his hand (or his hand on the lever of a voting machine).

But, some context could be useful, too, because the one thing I do trust is that Carville would not jeopardize the big bucks he makes by being (or posing as) a Democratic spokesperson.
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-12 01:29 PM
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3. IF the quote is valid, i wonder what he thinks of republican voters!
i mean, come on.

tell them, under clinton, that we should have a market-based health insurance solution, and they scream for something like the heritage foundation solution over "hillarycare".

then tell then, under obama, that that same market-based health insurance solution is actually socialist government control, and they scream against "obamacare".


tell them, while al gore was vice-president but not yet running for president, that he was wasting time and effort getting funding for the "information superhighway" and getting all government agencies to put up highly informative web pages, and they rail on gore for wasting time and effort and generally being silly.

then tell, them, when he's running for president, that he tried to take credit for his involvement in creating the internet, and they scream against gore for taking credit for "inventing" the internet.



anyone who pays the slightest bit of attention to politics knows that republicans herd like sheep and democrats herd like cats.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-12 03:11 AM
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4. The quote includes the belief that Republican voters are smarter and harder to "snow" than are
Edited on Mon Jul-23-12 03:12 AM by No Elephants
Democratic voters.

So, if the quote is valid, we don't have to wonder what Carville would say about Republican voters.

tell them, under clinton, that we should have a market-based health insurance solution, and they scream for something like the heritage foundation solution over "hillarycare".


I am not sure I am following you.

Hillarycare was based on the Heritage Foundation solution. Or, was that exactly your point?

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