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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-12 02:24 AM
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Romney: Same position (on gay marriage) since I started running for office.
um, which office, Mittens?

Because when you were running against Senator Kennedy in 1994, you told the Log Cabin Republicans that you would bring the issue of full equality for gays into the mainstream in a way that your opponent never could.


You did not take your anti-gay positions until after the Supreme Judicial Court of Massachusetts decided, while you were Governor, that recognition of gay marriage was required by the Massachusetts Constitution.

At that point, you were running for President (not technically, but in fact) and were bombarded by anti gay groups from all around the country.

So, which office, Mr. "I'll do and say ANYthing that I think improves my chances of being President?"
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-12 10:21 PM
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1. Mitt Romney lies about everything. n/t
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-12 01:21 AM
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2. Having specific s is good for when we speak with Republicans.
Edited on Fri May-11-12 01:22 AM by No Elephants
Or even listen to them.

On Morning Joe the other day, some Republicans or other (did not catch his name) claimed that Mitt Romney has never changed his position on gay marriage.

Just hearing Romney say "I've had the same position on this since...since I started running for office" should have been his first clue that Romney has NOT been consistent on this.

His second clue? It's Mitt Romney. Mitt Romney has not been consistent on ANYthing.

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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-12-12 02:01 AM
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3. I am for short and simple. n/t
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-12-12 02:14 AM
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4. Specifics can be short and simple.
And usually are much more persuasive to skeptics.
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-14-12 01:04 AM
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5. Self-identified skeptics are generally not willing to be persuaded. n/t
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-14-12 01:36 AM
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7. You are taking the position that knowing facts is pointless?
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-14-12 01:25 PM
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9. I'm taking the position that discussing facts with people not interested in them...
...is pointless.

(talking generally about right-wingers and other extremists) :shrug:
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-15-12 04:12 AM
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10. Challenging the bs with facts does work sometimes. You never know until you try.
Edited on Tue May-15-12 04:15 AM by No Elephants
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-14-12 01:16 AM
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6. It never has changed
His position on all issues is, "Whatever I think will get me elected."
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-14-12 01:42 AM
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8. +1
His problem is that he was a resident of Massachusetts and thought he had to run liberal to beat Kennedy or gain the Governor's seat. (We have had a number of Republican Governors. That has tended not to matter because our legislature has been so Democratic that it can override a gubernatorial veto. However, now that Democrats all over are going center right.....)

Anyway, he believed he had to run liberal. At the same time though, his Party was going more cuckoo right than ever. Hence his primary problem.

Now, though, his base is energized because no matter how many wives his Mexican granddaddy had and no matter how many Holocaust victims his church baptizes against their will, he is anti gay and anti choice.

Let's hear it for bigotry and oppression!
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