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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-12 05:25 PM
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Katrina vanden Huevel: A vote for universal registration
By Katrina vanden Heuvel, Monday, April 23, 11:50 AM

I recently visited Russia, where a mild-mannered historian from the city of Astrakhan, Oleg Shein, is on a hunger strike protesting a stolen mayoral election he believes he won. But as Russia starves for free and fair elections, Republicans across the United States are starving our democracy and too few have noticed. And their furious assault on voting rights is no less destructive to democracy than the vote-rigging we deplore in Russia.

Over the past year, Republican legislators in 34 states have proposed legislation that would drastically restrict voting for an estimated 5 million eligible voters. Seven states have passed laws requiring voters to show photo ID which more than one in 10 Americans lacks and dozens of others have eliminated early voting, disenfranchised ex-felons or limited the ability of civic organizations to register voters. The consequences are clear in Texas, for example, where you can now register to vote with a handgun license but not a college ID.

Unsurprisingly, the most affected demographics blacks, Latinos, young people and the elderly skew Democratic. NAACP President Ben Jealous has called such moves the greatest coordinated legislative attack on voting rights since the dawn of Jim Crow, and the Nation has teamed up with Colorlines.com to monitor and report on voter suppression among the most vulnerable groups.

Twelve years after Bush v. Gore, Florida is again leading the effort to subvert the democratic process. Last May, Floridas Republican legislature a wholly-owned subsidiary of the right-wing policy group the American Legislative Exchange Council passed draconian voter restrictions that, among other things, cut in half the number of early voting days and eliminated early voting on the Sunday before Election Day.

More: WaPo Story
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-12 05:38 PM
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1. Were you around when DU was devoted 24/7 to Election Problems with Computer Voting?
Edited on Mon Apr-23-12 05:40 PM by KoKo
I should check your profile..but, didn't.

Anyway... what happened after the "Basement Hearings" that "Internet Outcry" caused with Conyers and Boxer?

We had a good fight then...I cannot imagining us (NetRoots) ever being able to achieve that small victory these days and and turns out it was a useless VICTORY (for show)and we will not ever achieve that amount of accountabilty from our Congress/Senate Critters ever again. I don't believe we will be able to FORCE House or SENATE to honor the Constitution.

It's gone too far...and they are now "SO OWNED" and "FEARFUL" ...it's what it is.

If you want to counter my dark scenario...please do.. If you weren't around DU in those years...then don't reply because I'd get in an awful argument with you about what we tried to do in those times.

Peace! :hi:
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-12 06:03 PM
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3. Yes. Been here since November 2003!
Code Word: Bev Harris. x(

I think the problems then were real, continue to be real, and are in addition to this latest War on Voting. Now they're not just attacking the integrity of the vote, they are attacking the right to vote itself.

Shit is fucked up and bullshit = My Motto

:hi:
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-12 07:37 PM
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7. Oh Yeah...Bev Harris and those days... Those were the Days, My Friend...
I remember going to a "Meet Up at Duke Campus" with Mark Crispin Miller...talking about how we needed "Verified Voting" and Monitors to make sure "Every Vote Is Counted."

Do you ever hear much, anymore, about Professor Mark Crispin Miller?

I'll say this for Bev...she got it on the FRONT PAGE...but, her ANTICS threatening DU's SKINNER were her DEMISE.

But, like many hate Cindy Sheehan, Cynthia McKinney, Bradley Manning, Julian Assange (and I've left out so many in the TRANSITION of TRUTH TELLERS) ...we always should give (IMHO)a "Hat Tip" to Leaders of movement who come out early. They will flame out...crash and burn..but "OH THEY GAVE SUCH A LOVELY LIGHT OF TRUTH" while THEIR CANDLE GLOWED.

THE FAULT IS NOT WITH THEM....but WITH their DETRACTORS WHO HAVE the POWER...

And that is very sad...that there's not more DIVERSITY in OPINION these days in AMERICA...but, then ...there were the "McCarthy Days."

DID WE EVER REALLY HAVE....TRUE...FREEDOM OF SPEECH...that as a little (true believing kid...I sucked up and thought America was all about ....all those years ago? DID WE EVER HAVE IT?

:-( CRY for the "TRUTH of the REALITY"...NOT THE MYTH!: :cry:
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-12 11:19 PM
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9. It's all very sad.
I think Miller still pops up from time to time.

I think all four of the people you describe could be seen as having "antics" and that does not help their cause. I think they do bear some fault for their demise. I don't think it ever helps to deny that they bore responsibility.

I'm guess I'm just too much of a traditionalist. I don't really look to those people as the great heroes of our time. I think there are many more who did it without using "antics." I don't look to the present for heroes, I look to the past, to history because I am skeptical of present judgments.

1antic
noun \ˈan-tik\
Definition of ANTIC
1
: an attention-drawing often wildly playful or funny act or action : caper <childish antics>
2
archaic : a performer of a grotesque or ludicrous part : buffoon


I think depends how we define reality in terms of determining truth, what is reality and who defines it? :shrug:
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-12 05:51 PM
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2. What Worries me about Katrina's Proposal is covert approval.. "Universal American I.D. CARD...
Edited on Mon Apr-23-12 06:04 PM by KoKo
It sounds to me if we open the Gates to "Universal Voter Card" it will seem a "cave" and the RW will take it that "Liberals/Progressives" even "SUPPORT UNIVERSAL I.D's for VOTING ....so WHY NOT UNIVERSIAL USA IDENTITY CARD?

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FROM THE ARTICLE:
"Conservative critics charge that universal registration will lead to a free-for-all where non-citizens and cold-blooded convicts pile into polling stations and tarnish the process. This trumped-up outrage has intimidated Congress into inaction.

But as pilot efforts at the state level have shown, a universal system would actually reduce fraud, while saving millions of dollars and expanding the ranks of our democracy. Universal registration would truly be, as Brennan Center president Michael Waldman has said, potentially the most significant improvement since the Voting Rights Act of 1965.

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Democracy is a contest of ideas. Political parties should win because they persuade citizens to vote, not because they prohibit them from doing so.

It might seem a "step too far, or NOT" But, I don't like this.

CONVINCE ME OTHERWISE......... :shrug:


ON EDIT...just did in quotes/italics...Christina's Article snip... Sorry..
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-12 06:07 PM
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4. Ever watch the X-Files?
There was an episode in the whole UFO plot line where Mulder broke into a government facility where everyone's Social Security card was stored while looking for information on his sister. The point: government already has a card for everyone.

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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-12 06:10 PM
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5. While you were posting I was editing...check my edits...for former posts
and then get back... I had second thoughts and things I needed to add. You might be replying to my "First Thoughts" not the final.

I'm getting ready to eat Dinner (yeah..I still do that stuff) will get back later. Peace. :hi:
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-12 07:14 PM
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6. Ok...washing dishes...About :"X-Files" Thing....Do yu Have Link?
Edited on Mon Apr-23-12 07:17 PM by KoKo
Now, here I find another problem with Katrina (who I've always loved as a Progressive) where she says:

Twelve years after Bush v. Gore, Florida is again leading the effort to subvert the democratic process. Last May, Floridas Republican legislature a wholly-owned subsidiary of the right-wing policy group the American Legislative Exchange Council passed draconian voter restrictions that, among other things, cut in half the number of early voting days and eliminated early voting on the Sunday before Election Day.

What Katrina doesn't state is that here in MY STATE..North Carolina (Home of the DNC NATIONALCONVENTION of 2012 at the BANK OF AMERICA STADIUM) and ...ALEC was out there ready to go after Dems lost the Mid-Terms 2010 ...and she's here talking about ONE STATE! :grr: You wouldn't believe the mayhem ALEC has caused here in NC. ...but the Progressives in MY STATE were given the Boot after Obama started to Run for President. BITTER AND ANGRY...YEAH...I AM!


ALEC was READY TO GO...when OBAMA FLUBBED UP MID-TERM ELECTIONS ...even losing the Massachusetts Seat of Ted Kennedy (Obama's BIG SUPPORTER/MENTOR/ and GIFTING of his DOG "BO) and OBAMA "ORGANIZATION" coming off HUGE NATIONAL WIN...give up Ted Kennedy's SEAT?

How CAN THIS BE?
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-12 11:22 PM
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10. Couldn't find anything.
It was an old episode. But yeah, federal involvement in the voting process at this point is probably a good thing. Time to expand the Voting Rights Act.

I don't know what is going on in NC, what I do know is that the Florida laws are draconian. ALEC is just a front for corporate interests. What does it mean to you that Teddy Kennedy liked Obama very much?

:shrug:
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-24-12 04:24 AM
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13. Ted Kennedy liked Orrin Hatch, too. So much so that Hatch was asked to give a eulogy at
Kennedy's memorial.

Ted Kennedy was an unusual person. And a very loyal Democrat.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-12 07:48 PM
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8. AND...Katrina goes on to say:
THIS...which I don't see how it isn't just a "throw away" to the Repugs!

(I HOPE I READ THIS WRONG...but in the WEEDS...what she says open doors to stuff the RW will use against Dems..I fear) TELL ME IF I'M WRONG?

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Americans should be not just allowed, but encouraged, to help determine the countrys direction. Tragically, roughly 70 million eligible Americans a third of potential voters are unregistered. Citizens in households earning less than $20,000 are nearly twice as likely to be unregistered as those earning more than $100,000.The implications of that inequality are evident in the decades of Wall Street calling the shots and looting the nation.

Conservative critics charge that universal registration will lead to a free-for-all where non-citizens and cold-blooded convicts pile into polling stations and tarnish the process. This trumped-up outrage has intimidated Congress into inaction.

But as pilot efforts at the state level have shown, a universal system would actually reduce fraud, while saving millions of dollars and expanding the ranks of our democracy. Universal registration would truly be, as Brennan Center president Michael Waldman has said, potentially the most significant improvement since the Voting Rights Act of 1965.

Democracy is a contest of ideas. Political parties should win because they persuade citizens to vote, not because they prohibit them from doing so.
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-12 11:23 PM
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11. I think you're overreading. n/t
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-24-12 06:06 PM
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14. ellisonz...I probably did "Over-Read" and thanks for pointing that out...
Edited on Tue Apr-24-12 06:09 PM by KoKo
Still...I have a niggling worry about this. It will simmer...I will worry... I had to speak out about it.

I'm sorry for all the shouting at you guys though in my "Pissed Off Moment."

Yet...I had to make my point..in any way I could and feeling like an "Under-Fire Progressive" I go into "Defensive Mode...kind of quick..."

Yet..doing "Full Caps Screaming" is not the way to make one's point.

I apologize for that...but I WILL NEVER APOLOGIZE FOR MY PASSION/POLITICAL!"

But...I'm not EVER wanting to trash anyone here on DU-2 OCCUPY.

This is a great group, here on DU-2. and if I get out of line....I'm trying to pull myself back...

:grouphug: and THANKS, for me "sounding out and folks not getting all freaked out about it.

AND YES...I realize I might be a "Passive/Agressive Personality Disorder".........(Only here though..but then I've not been diagnosed yet. :D or :-(

I hope you get my kind of Quixotic Humor? :shrug:
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-24-12 06:15 PM
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15. No worries.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-24-12 08:27 PM
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17. See "Fugue" from "Lord of the Rings"...Symphony...
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-12 07:25 PM
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18. Well...it's "FUGUE" for some of us on a bit of a TIME OUT....
A much time out...or just a listen...for our "FUGUE." Look it up...ARE WE IN A FUGUE?


See "Fugue" from "Lord of the Rings"...Symphony...It's a Pretty Listen......soothing..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfFQuhWaA_k&feature=rela ...
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-24-12 03:37 AM
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12. Whenever Democrats are right about something, let's do what Republicans want anyway.
Aaarrrrggghhh!
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-24-12 07:11 PM
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16. yes...there's always that..
Speak Up or Lie in Fugue......

It's beautiful from "Lord of The Rings Sound Tack"

FUGUE!

The Lord of the Rings - Complete Symphony


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfFQuhWaA_k&feature=rela...
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