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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-12 09:27 AM
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The problem with an ignorant populace...


Ignorant does not mean they are stupid. It means they do not have the facts with which to make informed decisions.

For whatever reasons, they do not have the time to educate themselves to what is going on in the world. They become suckers that are easily manipulated by partisan division. They either take the Democratic side or they take the Republican side. They depend on their favorite media people or their favorite politicians for the information they receive. Neither side is beyond manipulation.

The average person does not know how much we are spending on wars in Afghanistan and Iraq and other places? They do not know how much it cost us to save the banking system, and some say, the entire capitalist system? They do not know how much debt Obama has created versus how much he inherited? They do not realize that they have received additional taxcuts for the last three years.

The average person does not understand which politician has voted for what legislation that affects their lives? They only listen to their favorite TV station or their favorite politicians for their side of the issue and they accept it without question. Therein lies the problem.

They are making decisions on lies and distortions because they are ignorant. This is the average voter in America. They are uneducated and uninformed. They are partisan puppets, just waiting for their masters to pull the strings.


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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-12 11:56 AM
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1. "How Do Conservatives and Liberals See the World" (Moyers interview with Jonathan Haidt)
Kentuck...have you see this interview? I just watched it this morning. It's from Feb.3rd..but, I just got to it. It deals with much that you ask questions about...and what many of us are grappling with as Democrats across the spectrum. I think you'd find it interesting as I did...if you haven't already watched it. I can't recommend it enough. :hi:

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Full Show: How Do Conservatives and Liberals See the World?
February 3, 2012 --Bill Moyers

Bill talks with social psychologist Jonathan Haidt about the moral underpinnings of our contentious culture.

http://billmoyers.com/episode/how-do-conservatives-and-... /
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-12 03:52 PM
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3. I watched the entire episode.
Very interesting. Although I tend to agree with Haidt on many points, he offers few solutions.

The division has become impenetrable. The issues have become "sacred".

In my opinion, we have to find a way to address the problems that is not the Democratic way or the Republican way. There has to be a middle ground that enough people will accept as reasonable and rational which both Democrats and Republicans will have to work with if they want to remain a viable political force.

Government is evil. Once you accept that theory, as have most conservatives, then it is OK to let people die of hunger or disease. It is the "karma" they have been looking for in their search for fairness.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-12 06:52 PM
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4. I understand what you say...but, DLC tried a "Compromise"
Edited on Sun Apr-22-12 06:53 PM by KoKo
and the Division became "More Impenetrable."

The issues...on both sides have become "Sacred."

I agree that he "Identified the Problem" and not the "Solutions."

but, what Possible Solutions could he have offered? The Dems have tried EVERYTHING...even becoming MORE REPUBLICAN and NOTHING WORKS?

What DO YOU think he should have proposed...as "SOLUTIONS?" :shrug:

I can't think of anything...and you and I have been here through this for now watching this between the two parties for over a Decade?

I'm thinking it has to "GET SO BAD ...it all Implodes." But, I hope in all my being...it never comes to that...because it will be WORSE for us older Dems to think about living through...while everything implodes around us.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-12 05:58 AM
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6. Moyers is one of the few establishment voices not drowned in Kool Aid
Be it grape or cherry.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-12 02:40 PM
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2. Republicans are from another dimension....
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-12 07:13 PM
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5. Yes,,,they are...But, they think WE ARE...and in many cases they are Winning with Legislation...
so WHY?

That's why I liked watching that Moyers interview. We keep :banghead: and something else is going on.

I hope we can find a way to change that. We've been trying for awhile now...and little results... :-(
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-12 05:59 AM
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7. Politicians and other "job creators" are ALL from another dimension.
Well, maybe not ALL, but with very few exceptions.
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