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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-12 05:21 PM
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CONTROVERSY OVER "KONY 2012" Continues: Watch Two Ugandan's View on This..and Decide
CONTROVERSY OVER "KONY 2012" Continues: Watch Two Ugandan's View on This..and Decide
Is US Interests Important in "Lord's Resistance Army (LRA) a factor in this?

http://www.democracynow.org/2012/4/18/kony_2012_ugandan...

We look at the controversial video, "Kony 2012," that targets Joseph Kony and his Lords Resistance Army (LRA), a group notorious for kidnapping children, forcing boys to become fighters, and using girls as sex slaves in Central Africa. Released on March 5, it was viewed more than 100 million times online in just under a week, making it the most viral video in history. We speak with two Ugandans about the impact of the film and how the Kony 2012 campaign calls for U.S. military intervention in Central Africa to fight the LRA. Milton Allimadi is publisher and editor-in-chief of Black Star News. Victor Ochen is a survivor of the LRA war and director of African Youth Initiative Network, based in northern Uganda.
Filed under Uganda, Africa.
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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-12 05:50 PM
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1. Hard to watch on this connection. Is one of them pro and one anti, or what?
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-12 06:07 PM
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2. The connection worked for me... Do you need another link?
Edited on Wed Apr-18-12 06:07 PM by KoKo
I checked it after I posted it...but, one never knows these days with "buffering" that I get all the time. :-(

Try This:

http://www.democracynow.org/2012/4/18/kony_2012_ugandan...
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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-12 07:44 PM
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3. Thanks Koko. My response:
This is why I'm not all that huge an Amy Goodman fan. Her co-host launches right into a snarky comment about how so many people have criticized the film, "not least for its connections to the evangelical movement." Amy Goodman hates anything having to do with religion, that much is clear :-( I recall her hanging up on a progressive once simply for saying that they were pro-choice but were personally opposed to abortion for personal moral reasons. I don't tune into progressive broadcasting to get "attack the messenger" arguments that constitute the entirety of their commentary... I can get that on Fox News. Whenever I try to watch Amy Goodman, I get these Bill Maher-like snark and un-journalistic asides about the culture war, how the world hates us, etc. etc. It all comes across as this sort of triumphalist secular leftism, when in fact the left has hobbled itself by distancing itself from the lumpenproletariat. And I know I agree with a lot of the substantive issues that are discussed on the show but I agree with Ed Schultz just as often as the old-lefties who like to pop up on Democracy Now, and Schultz doesn't engage in such snark. Neither does KO for that matter...

At least she's willing to debate the actual issue, though. You'll notice the MSM will not even address the Kony issue any more because corporate news is nothing more than entertainment to pacify the masses.

As for feeling threatened by the perceived interventionist message of Kony 2012, many of the same folks supported the invasion of Libya, although Amy Goodman didn't (but for the wrong reasons -- like Chomsky, she tends to think that no matter how bad a dictator is, anything America does will make it worse). Why feel threatened when the April 20 follow-up effort has already been hobbled by declaring it a forced meme and a tool of the evangelical military Bushies? Maybe it is all those things, but if so, why not attempt to re-cast the effort? Do they imagine that Invisible Children owns the issue?

Sadly I could see the signs that the April 20 "Cover the Night" flash mob effort would not succeed because the way they were "marketing" it made it seem like a promotional gimmick for an organization with a specific agenda (Invisible Children) and made it into a forced meme.

Frankly, Bush's position on Africa was one of the only bright spots in his 8 year reign... of course he did it because his evangelical friends supported helping Africa, but so did Bono and liberal interventionists too, for that matter. Sadly if Rwanda happened again today, I'm very much afraid Amy Goodman would say the same thing I think she (and Chomsky) said back then, which was to sit back and tut-tut that any American intervention would be an excuse for US imperialism in the region, never mind that the genocidaires were backed by the French imperialists (which is why we were so reluctant to intervene.)

Anyhoof... sorry about that rant.
:rant:
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-12 04:50 AM
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4. I have had no problem at all with Democracy Now. I find more truth there than elsewhere.
What do you prefer to Democracy Now?

Shultz does snark some, but not in the same way as Olberman and Maddow, nor is it constant with him. I came to prefer him to them for that reason alone. The snark gets tiresome after a while.
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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-12 10:31 AM
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7. Sorry I didn't get back earlier. What do I prefer?
Good question. There's not many newscasters I enjoy listening to anymore without yelling at the TV / radio.

It doesn't help that the news is so bad and that the newscasters seem to have only two modes of reporting on it -- passive support of gradual continual shifts to the right, or snarky NPR-style "at least we have our 401k" hand-wringing.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-12 02:05 AM
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6. What do you prefer to Democracy Now?
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dtexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-12 12:52 PM
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5. What's to decide?
Here's what we know:
1) the LRA is a horrible terrorist organization that kidnaps kids;
2) the KONY 2012 folks center on a questionable religious organization; and
3) we should not trust U.S. actions, certainly not military intervention, in underdeveloped countries.
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