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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-12 03:42 AM
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White House, State Department condemn Iran on {Christian} pastor's execution orders
Edited on Fri Feb-24-12 03:45 AM by No Elephants
White House, State Department condemn Iran on pastor's execution orders

By Dan Merica, CNN

Washington (CNN) - Pastor Youcef Nadarkhani, an Iranian Christian charged with leaving Islam, has received a local trial courts final verdict, according to sources close to his legal team, and may now be executed for leaving Islam.

Jodran Sekulow, executive director of the American Center for Law and Justice, said he was informed on Monday by the pastor's legal team that the final execution order had been issued. At this point, said Sekulow, the pastor could be executed without the legal team's knowledge.

The White House issued a pointed statement on Thursday, strongly condemning the reports and renewed calls for Iranian authorities to release the pastor.

"This action is yet another shocking breach of Iran's international obligations, its own constitution, and stated religious values," stated a release by the White House. "The United States stands in solidarity with Pastor Nadarkhani, his family, and all those who seek to practice their religion without fear of persecution-a fundamental and universal human right."


http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2012/02/23/white-house-st...

In a {perhaps} related story, "Quran burning violence escalates." http://www.cnn.com/video/?hpt=hp_t2#/video/bestoftv/201...

Sentencing people to death for believing Jesus is the Son of God is not disrespectful to Christianity?
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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-12 04:02 AM
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1. What is the Iranian Law on this? I understand many Mideastern countries still have laws like this
on their books. Is this a tenet of Islam to execute people for apostasy or just a historical injunction, like it used to be in Judaism and Christianity?
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-12 07:59 AM
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3. I don't know. However, for sake of discussion, assume Iranian law requires his execution.
Edited on Sun Feb-26-12 08:17 AM by No Elephants
Assuming otherwise would require the conclusion that the Iranian national system both allows and carries out extra-legal murder of a person who is a Christian.

So, either way, it's murder or execution of a man for being Christian, but state sanctioned murder would be even worse than execution, I guess. Anyhow, I am not clear on the point of your question?


But...what do you mean by a "historical injunction" and when was it a "historical injunction" in Judaism or Christianity to kill people who converted to another religion?

Do you know how, for instance, the nation of Syria, went so quickly from being a Christian, Jewish and pagan nation to being almost 100% Muslim? I doubt it was simply because Imams preached better sermons than Jews, pagans and Christians.

But, I am not clear what any of that has to do with whether or not a nation's murdering or executing someone for being a Christian in 2012 is okay?

As for the question in my OP, that, refers, of course, to rioting and killing people over some burned copies of the Quran because that is supposedly so disrespectful as to make the loss of life okay. I cannot imagine anything more disrespectful to a religion, though, than executing someone for believing in it.

Seemed to me that current events headlines of the day were presenting a juxtaposition worth noting.

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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-12 09:27 AM
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5. I don't think it's okay... I think it's horrible.
Edited on Sun Feb-26-12 09:32 AM by Leopolds Ghost
Trying to figure out what their motives are, though.

They had supposedly put a stop to this sort of thing.

Of course, Bush is partly to blame: He ensured the electoral defeat of moderate, pro-Western President Khatami (a Gorbachev-like figure) by placing Iran on the Axis of Evil two months after Khatami offered peace with the US and a military alliance against the Taliban.

PS-- I'm nondenominational Christian, btw... not too many ppl I agree with politically are religious that I know... but apparently there are all of a sudden a bunch in my town. ("radical" religious folks, that is) So it's good to know that our local Occupy is welcoming to religious progressives and radicals.
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classysassy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-12 10:57 PM
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2. Selective condemnation
When will the whitehouse condemn Israel for the random slaughter of Palestinian women and children?
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-12 08:19 AM
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4. I agree, but add that most, if not all, condemnation is selective.
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