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lbrtbell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-12 10:36 AM
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Et tu, Debbie Wasserman Schultz?
http://www.slashgear.com/sopa-sponsor-has-another-internet-bill-that-records-you-247-20210264/

Senator Lamar Smith, lead sponsor of the currently dead SOPA bill you’ve heard so much about, has another bill in the works that uses Child Pornography as a screen to push through an amendment that’ll have your internet service provider tracking all of your financial dealings online. Each time you use a credit card, each time you read your bank statement, all of your IP information and your search history will be required by your ISP to be stored for 18 months at all times. This bill is H.R. 1981 and will have more dire consequences than SOPA or PIPA ever had the potential to have.
(Read more at link, above)

http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9217074/New_U.S._bill_would_make_ISPs_keep_records_for_18_months
House Judiciary Committee Chairman Lamar Smith (Republican-Texas) and Congresswoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz (Democrat-Florida) said they introduced the bill to help investigators track down dangerous pedophiles and protect children from sexual exploitation.

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SPREAD THIS FAR AND WIDE! :mad:
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proverbialwisdom Donating Member (366 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-12 02:32 PM
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1. Take the money out of illegal porn. Something wrong with that?
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LAGC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-12 04:02 PM
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3. The ACLU rightly opposes this bill, so should you.
Dear Chairman Smith and Ranking Member Conyers:

On behalf of the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU), a non-
partisan organization with more than a half million members, countless
additional activists and supporters, and 53 affiliates nationwide dedicated to
the principles of individual liberty and justice embodied in the U.S.
Constitution, we are writing today to express our opposition to H.R. 1981,
the “Protecting Children From Internet Pornographers Act of 2011.” We are
specifically concerned with section 4 (retention of records), sections 5 and 6
(immunity provisions) and sections 7 and 11 (subpoenas authority).
Collectively these provisions invade the privacy of innocent individuals,
create dangerous cybersecurity vulnerabilities and authorize overbroad
information collection by law enforcement.

Sexual abuse of children is already a criminal act. All reasonable
people agree that such abuse harms children to an almost unfathomable
degree. Child pornography commercially exploits that harm. While H.R.
1981 may have the best of intentions, its provisions are overzealous and
would harm millions of Americans while doing little to stop child
pornography.
..
..


http://www.aclu.org/files/assets/aclu_opposition_to_hr1981_markup_letter.pdf

Whose side are you on?
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-12 02:35 PM
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2. K&R They will keep at it,
until they are tracking us all. You are right. This has absolutely zero, zilch, nada to do with child pornography, and it is an outrage.

(I reposted at DU3 with a link to here, btw.)

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lbrtbell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-12 05:33 AM
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5. Thanks for spreading the word - n/t
Edited on Sun Jan-22-12 05:34 AM by lbrtbell
And you're right, this is all about invading our privacy--it's just hiding behind child porn, which makes it twice as disgusting.

I'm glad the ACLU is on this already.
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-12 09:37 PM
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4. Debby is a died in the wool DLC...Dino....
Who could never get elected as a pug.
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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-12 06:01 AM
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6. The Supreme Court also just ruled Congress can re-copyright public domain works. n/t
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-12 11:03 AM
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7. The Constitution says that Congress has the power
Edited on Sun Jan-22-12 11:08 AM by No Elephants
"To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries."

Says nothing about re-copyrighting.


And, I'd be stunned if the Framers thought roughly 100-150 years or more* was a "limited time" that was needed to encourage authors to write and inventors to invent

Are you trying to tell me that an author, artist or inventor would sit on the couch if Congress had left the copyright period at 75 years? Or if Congress did not re-copyright something after 100-150 years?



This has nothing to do with promoting science and useful arts by protecting authors. It has everything to do with enriching the corporations that buy out the inventors, artists and authors.

This is for Disney, not for today's counterpart of Thomas Edison.


*For specifics on time periods in current U.S. copyright law, please see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries'_copyright_length
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-12 11:29 AM
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8. Debbie Wasserman Shultz-the second DLC type Obama chose to head the DNC in two years.
(She is a member of the New Democrat Coalition--and no, that is not New "Democratic" Coalition, but New "Democrat" Coalition, just the way "ratfucker" Karl Rove would have named it.)

Also, was DNC head always a part time job?

Tim Kaine still had a year or more to serve as Governor when he took over the DNC and, of course, Debbie Wasserman Schultz has a full time job as Congressional Representative.

If I were a Virginian when Tim Kaine accepted the job or a member of Wasserman Shultz's district when she accepted the job, I'd be furious.

But, I;m not a Virginian or a Floridian, so that's their business. However, I am a registered Democrat.

As of now, I'm furious over the 2010 elections Democrats lost--including the special election for Kennedy's seat--under Tim Kaine's leadership.
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-12 12:13 PM
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9. Debbie is my rep, but I was furious before she became DNC char.
Debbie has gone downhill since Terri Schiavo. As head of DCCC she helped Republicans get elected. x(


--imm
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