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BoWanZi Donating Member (502 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-11 07:54 PM
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What was DU1 like?
Just wondering. I wasn't around for DU1 that I remember. Was it a totally different forum software? What kind of rules were in place compared to du2/du3?

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Rick Myers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-11 07:58 PM
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1. We had to log in with a 300 baud modem...
Then walk up hill both ways to post using a chisel and some stone tablets... ;)
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-11 08:01 PM
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5. Sounds like you missed the school bus that picked us up every morning
But you always had a reputation for sleeping in.
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-11 03:22 PM
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44. Downthread, somebody asked for a SCREEN SHOT
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PatrynXX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-11 09:38 PM
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14. eh course you might jest.. only had a 2400 bps modem in Jan 95
that from an old Acros in 1992. Doom played just fine on it. Duke Nukem barely. and of course the first AOL we had had no WWW... that didn't come till 1996 :) and had uncle and dad glued to the set when I had it on playboy.com :p oops
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-11 07:59 PM
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2. I hope somebody has a screen shot or a link
I got here in 8/03 and just don't recall a major change. Just some good tweaks along the way. Things like adding the non political forums so people could get to know each other on a personal interests level. Also, adding the videos forum, too. Nice changes that made things more fun.
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BoWanZi Donating Member (502 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-11 08:24 PM
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9. That was what I was hoping for too, some screen shots.
Its fun seeing the changes of some websites over the years.

I remember seeing some cached copies of www.microsoft.com from the mid-'90s. Wow, talk about archaic!

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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-11 08:33 PM
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10. We've been on since dial-up bulletin boards in the late 1980s
The olden days.

Maybe that's why I'm done with major changes and bells & whistles with strobe lights. Heck, I don't even do FB and Twitter.
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-11 08:00 PM
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3. It was written on gold tablets
...
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-12 11:33 AM
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63. Stone tablets (Judaism); gold plates (Mormonism); gold tablets (1% ism).
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Rick Myers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-11 08:01 PM
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4. Instead of mods, we had...
A council that would weigh the problem. With a REAL SCALE. If the offender weighed more than a duck and 10 bucks in gold, they were tombstoned. Then, they were carried to the big stone pyramid where their heart was torn out...
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-11 08:23 PM
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8. In the mid-seventies they used to conduct business from a hot tub.
True historical fact, by gum!
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Rick Myers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-11 09:32 PM
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13. Oh, the hot tub daze!!!
Nekkid mods everywhere...
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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-12 05:35 PM
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46. Grovelbot giving out free back rubs

I resurrected the thread to post this.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-12 11:34 AM
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64. I think you're thinking of the Mayan Underground.
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dbt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-11 08:03 PM
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6. There were only four assholes.
But even then they were afforded extraordinary protections from The Rules!
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-11 08:21 PM
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7. You've always been jealous of me!
But I still would share a Dr. Thiddlediddum's Patented zinc and lavender soda with you anyways.

remember how we used to dip girls' pigtails into the exhaust fan of our word processors?
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-11 08:38 PM
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11. Hey, I resemble that remark
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greendog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-11 08:49 PM
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12. In the really old old days..
...Skinner delivered all the posts and replies by bicycle.
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Rick Myers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-11 10:15 PM
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17. The entire system was run by steam!!!
It took 20 Difference Engines to run the site...
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greendog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-11 07:10 PM
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33. Remember when one of the leather drive belts snapped...
Edited on Wed Dec-21-11 07:12 PM by greendog
...and thwacked Grovelbot upside the head. He was made of tin in those days.
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PatrynXX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-11 09:42 PM
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15. wayback machine has the first cap Feb 19 2001
http://web.archive.org/web/20010219033913/http://www.de... /

:)


not sure if any of those links work but I'd forgotten about that site till now :P
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Rick Myers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-11 10:04 PM
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16. That's it!!! Check out the post above!
That is the original DU!!!
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-11 10:27 PM
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18. Wait, why is DU3 so boring by comparison?
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BoWanZi Donating Member (502 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-11 11:17 PM
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19. Hey neat!!
That is pretty cool! Doesn't look all that much different. I managed to find a post and the way its threaded and viewed is rather nice.
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freshwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-11 11:53 PM
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20. OMG!! I bookmarked that and hope it stays up forever! Wow! Thanks!
Um, can you tell I was excited to see that?
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-11 12:27 AM
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21. 1 month after Bush began squatting the WH.
Doubt I'll never get over that.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-11 02:43 AM
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25. Thanks! That familiar, sprightly color scheme...
Here's a bit from the Conservative Idiots List,:

"Rush Limbaugh - Okay, take a deep breath before reading this one. In a promo for his radio show last week, Rush was heard to announce, "If you take away the black vote, Bush won by a landslide". Now slowly, get back in your chair and re-read that. Breathe in. Breathe out. Now spit. That's good. While we understand that he would prefer democracy if only white men were allowed to vote, what Mount Rushmo' fails to have realized is that in Florida they DID take away the black vote and Bush STILL lost. Whoops. Talent on loan from God? More like talent on loan from Gallagher."

In last week's episode of Family Guy, Peter mentioned how in Florida "...all the black votes go right in the garbage can."
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lbrtbell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-11 05:36 AM
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28. Holy crap, I remember that layout!
I used to love reading the hate mail. :rofl:
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-20-12 02:58 AM
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50. Me too
Doesn't seem that long ago somehow...
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juajen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-12 03:53 PM
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59. Yeah, hate mail was fun.
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arikara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-11 11:19 AM
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32. I remember that!
Those were sure the good old days. The board was so interesting and full of such smart people most of which are either no longer around... or post rarely nowadays. Of course there were disagreements back then but they were more polite, based on substance and ideas not personalities. I just don't remember seeing the carrying on and nastiness that goes on now, I would never have used ignore back then but I would not have survived on DU2 without using it for the last while.

I can't be bothered at all with DU3 and am looking for a new home when this one is disappeared. If anyone has any suggestions, please PM me. I found a couple likely prospects but there could be more out there.

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donco Donating Member (717 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-11 09:53 PM
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36. WOW
that's kinda like freerepublic now,
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WildNovember Donating Member (726 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-11 12:47 AM
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37. it looks basically like du2.
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TroglodyteScholar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-11 01:43 PM
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42. I love the "About Us" section from the 2001 page...
The Democratic Underground Manifesto

lib.er.al adj., belonging to the people, free, to grow up, rise 1. suitable for a free man; not restricted 2. giving freely; generous 3. large or plentiful; ample; abundant 4. not strict 5. tolerant of views differing from one's own; broad-minded 6. of democratic forms of government 7. favoring reform or progress; specif., favoring political reforms tending toward democracy and personal freedom for the individual; progressive

con.ser.va.tive adj., 1. preservative 2. tending to resist or oppose any changes in established traditions or institutions 3. generally large waisted 4. maligning people of different color, nationality, religion, and/or sexual orientation 5. feeling victimized by those of lower social standing 6. shouldering unusual amounts of paranoia/fireams 7. irrationally terrified of a) government subversion b) communist invasion c) homeless people

The conservatives have turned "liberal" into a dirty word, and we're taking it back. We of the Democratic Underground have decided the time has finally come to lower ourselves to their level. We're talking all out, balls-to-the-wall, light-the-fuse-and-stand-well-back thermonuclear partisan warfare.

No longer will we shrug our shoulders as Rush Limbaugh blithely tosses out another line about "liberal hypocrisy". No longer will we nod and smile politely as Robert Novak body-slams our ideals, kicks them in the crotch, and then pisses all over them.

They think that it's every man for himself, and screw you, Jim. They want the government to keep its nose out of your business - as long as your business isn't listening to rap music, or medical marijuana use, or preventing an unwanted pregnancy, or not wishing to be forced to pray in school. They want the States to have absolute control over their own destinies, as long as it doesn't get in the way of fixing a Presidential election (and they said Al Gore wanted to win at any cost).

They're hypocrites of the very worst kind. They think that claiming the high ground means you sling shit until there's a big enough pile to stand on.

Well we're sick of it. Not just because they're wrong, but because, let's face it, they're having way more fun than we are. Not only did they steal the election but they got to call us stupid while they were doing it, and now they're going to squander eight years of peace and prosperity.

Understand, it's not Democratic Underground's job to stop them - there are plenty of people around who are far better organized for that. But we can stop them from getting away with it. Every time an immigrant maid, or a tobacco company payoff, or an inconvenient DUI (or two) comes along, we'll remember - and we'll be here for you to vent your spleen. To paraphrase the greatest politician of our time: we feel your pain.

So let go of those bi-partisan feelings, people. Get in the forums and blow off some steam. It's time to stop beating ourselves up and start swinging in their direction...


http://web.archive.org/web/20010219071508/http://www.de...
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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-12 06:43 PM
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47. The links work...I just read one of the "hate mails".
I cannot believe any Repub ever thought that the following described their party.

22 Jan 2001

"...I look forward to the coming 4 years, when Conservatives carry on the proud tradition of squashing liberals like roaches, while boldly moving forward our conservative agenda of lifting financial burdens from all people, not some people; protecting the unborn, allowing people of all religions to practice those religions anywhere, anytime they please!"

http://web.archive.org/web/20010219122707/http://www.de...
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-12 07:09 PM
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48. I was here at that time...
but did not start writing for DU until about a month later. :-)
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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-11 01:11 AM
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22.  I wish this thread was over on DU3 so that I could nominate some of the great replies for a DUzy

:hi:

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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-11 01:25 AM
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23. Here: (It used to let me log in :( )
We changed from DU.1 to DU.2 on July 6, 2003. DU.2 has had many, many user friendly improvements since it originally went live, but it was gradual, so I didn't notice a huge difference. :hi:


http://www.democraticunderground.com/cgi-bin/duforum/du...
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Curmudgeoness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-20-12 07:38 PM
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58. That is DU1? It looks just like another site---today.
Oh my! There have been a lot of changes since then!
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Mist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-11 02:21 AM
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24. I don't remember the page from the Wayback machine--I must have started
lurking after it became DU2.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-11 03:01 AM
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26. Yes, the first time I ever saw DU was in January 2004, lurked until the end of the year
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-11 03:53 AM
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27. First time I saw DU was from a link
someone on an election fraud listserv gave me. I read it for a few minutes, thought, man, these people are mean, and started posting right away. lol
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-11 08:42 AM
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29. Well, see now...
that's what you get when you wander into the Cooking & Baking Forum.
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snooper2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-11 08:53 AM
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30. crappy and crappy
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bikebloke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-11 10:35 AM
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31. I still have the tin can and string.
It was tied directly into the DU server.
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Rick Myers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-11 09:37 PM
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34. There were tubes on poles...
Like the bank drive-thru... The messages traveled by steam!!!
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-11 09:38 PM
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35. Here's the LINK: (also posted upthread)
Edited on Wed Dec-21-11 09:39 PM by Rhiannon12866
We became DU.2 on July 6, 2003, and the rules were much the same, IIRC... :hi:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/cgi-bin/duforum/du...
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Mosby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-11 06:17 PM
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40. wow thanks!
Edited on Thu Dec-22-11 06:21 PM by Mosby
I started reading through foreign affairs last night and wow, I'm literally speechless.

Did DU1 not have mods?

There is a thread titled "Indiana Green?", the entire op is a call out. Take a look at elad's posts in the thread.

Ps I used to post under the name phx_dem but had to give that back to my spouse who started the acct, so we both have been posting at du since 2004.

As you prob know IG was a IP regular though I did not know she was one of the founding members. She kind of spammed the board the first week or so imo.

She was TSed a couple years ago.
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-11 01:14 AM
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38. You started it up from DOS C:\command.com /DU
Then you put the floppy disc into drive A and place the phone on the cradle.
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iamthebandfanman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-11 01:57 AM
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39. Heres the front page of DU when
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-11 02:52 PM
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43. It's Retro Cool...refreshing and inviting in it's charm...
Thanks for that memory!
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-12 07:13 PM
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49. Carlos Jiacinto won...
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-20-12 09:34 AM
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51. Indeed....
He must have had many extra socks in his drawer...saved to be used at a later time... One by One by One....

(It was amazing reading that from the infamous Carlos so long ago...thanks for posting it)

:-)
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-20-12 09:40 AM
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53. Only the old timers can remember Carlos.
It took awhile but it looks like his DLC ideology won out? :-)
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-20-12 10:18 AM
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54. agree..
was just trying to be subtle in my reply.

I think he's over there under another name and has many followers who seem to have been with him who have created a swarm. Maybe they were the real DU, all along. Reinventing themselves over and over one granite pizza at a time. Extra socks come in handy.... :eyes:
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-20-12 12:45 PM
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57. May be?
His arguments fit well. Much better now than then.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-20-12 11:08 AM
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56. I remember Carlos well.
Edited on Mon Feb-20-12 11:08 AM by madfloridian
We shared some good PMs and some not so good PMs. Indeed his philosophy has won the day.
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juajen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-12 04:01 PM
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61. Yeah, this oldtimer remembers Carlos
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Sapphocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-12 11:12 PM
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62. Man, did he ever.
That's painful. I'm not saying he's right -- just that it's painful knowing he's somewhere in Miami right now, laughing his ass off.

It's even more painful than knowing Bob Boudelang doesn't have to get upset about campaign finance reform any longer.*


" Not sure whether I want to insert a ROFL smiley or a crying one.
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juajen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-12 04:00 PM
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60. Oh, my, the memories!
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-11 06:39 PM
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41. Here's one of my favorite threads from DU1: I'm more patriotic than YOU!
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dbt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-11 06:41 PM
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45. Frank Stein/MoPaul, we hardly knew ye...
:toast:
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-20-12 09:39 AM
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52. One of my favs!
He was a danger to the establishment. :-)
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-12 11:45 AM
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65. Link did not work of rme. Rats!
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-20-12 10:49 AM
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55. People were passionate about defeating Booshe, there weren't petty squabbles over party
there weren't any infiltrators like there are now, there weren't party hacks like there are now.

We were pure, we only wanted to See Democracy play out, not corporate capitalism


It sucks now.
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