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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 02:39 PM
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Paterno’s Payback? Penn State Football is No. 1 in Academic Bowl
Source: Time Magazine

Louisiana State University may again be the best team in the nation going into the recently announced college bowls, but when it comes to the football team’s academic performance, they’re a lower-than-middling No. 13. According to an analysis done by the New America Foundation (NAF), only 48% of the school’s football players currently graduate within six years or less.

But the more ironic news is that the team that topped the list is Penn State, whose football program coached by the legendary Joe Paterno was recently rocked by a sex-abuse scandal. According to the analysis, Penn State graduates 80% of its football players in six years or less and also shows no achievement gap between its black and white players, which NAF says is extremely rare for Division I football teams. (At LSU, by comparison, the team’s black players are 32% less likely to graduate than their white counterparts.) Winning the top honors in the academic bowl further proves the success of Paterno’s “grand experiment,” which was his idea that major-college athletes could contend for national championships while excelling in the classroom.

So this may be the only time in recent weeks we’ve had to admit — at least in this one arena — that more schools should be doing as Penn State has done. NAF originally got into the business of compiling academic rankings as a way to increase the focus on the academic success (or lack thereof) among college athletes. “We would hope athletes would be leaving college with skills that could be used in a career after their sports career is over,” says Maggie Severns, a program associate with the NAF. “But these days, it’s taken for granted that athletes, particularly football and basketball players, aren’t really focusing on their academic careers.”




Read more: http://ideas.time.com/2011/12/07/paternos-revenge-penn-... /



Just sayin'...
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Brickbat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 02:50 PM
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1. Paterno's payback...for what?
For embarrassing his employer? What a stupid headline.
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Lint Head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 03:08 PM
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2. Do they graduate quicker because they want to get out as soon as possible
so they're not raped too?
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libinnyandia Donating Member (526 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 03:36 PM
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3. It ha no meaning at all.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 07:42 PM
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13. It does, if you aren't graduating at another college.
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libinnyandia Donating Member (526 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 08:33 PM
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15. There is no connect between a sports program that allowed the
abuse of children and a high rate of graduation of athletes. All one can say is Penn State allowed abuse and also educated its athletes.
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 03:38 PM
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4. Paterno's Revenge? At what, a Faustian bargain?
If those meddling victims had never come forward - the Penn State dream would still be alive?

Oh :puke:
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 03:42 PM
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5. Yep, this Sandusky debacle is going to completely tarnish
what was an exemplary career. Compared to most major programs, JoePa's turned out good students, few trouble makers, lots of successful graduates. All of that will be overlooked due this this ugly spectacle.
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Lord Magus Donating Member (443 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 06:32 PM
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10. But Paterno could have pretented that easily.
All he had to do was, when told about Sandusky, made sure the police were informed. And then told Sandusky "stay the hell out of my team's locker room." The fact that Sandusky continued to be allowed to use the Penn State locker room for his sham charity's activities is what guaranteed Paterno's reputation would be destroyed once the scandal broke.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 08:16 AM
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16. Indeed
No argument from me. He DESERVES to have his reputation stained because of this. It's still a shame that he made such a horrendous mistake at the end of what had been an exemplary career. The list of Republicans I respect has shrunk by one due to this - I think that leaves about 3 on the entire planet.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 03:48 PM
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6. what the fuck do they mean by "payback" as if Paterno is the victim, people are losing focus
or never had it. nothing excuses what happened and how others in charge did not do anything or not enough.

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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 05:25 PM
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7. all it means is that Penn State
will lie, cheat, steal, and intimidate to get the college to pass its football players. That's how it worked for us grad assistants at Indiana University, and that certainly was no big football superpower.
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rickford66 Donating Member (46 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 06:24 PM
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9. you're wrong
I went to PSU in the 60's. I knew many football players and roomed with two different ones in different years. They were continually checked up on and they had forced study times etc. They didn't get any breaks for grades that I saw. One guy had a 4.0 in my electrical engineering curriculum. No easy feat. The only preference I ever saw was getting some free dough nuts one night. Whoop dee do. I'm certainly not proud of my school for this scandal, but I know the players earn the grades they get.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 07:43 PM
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14. That's what all cheaters think: that they really aren't any different from others.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 08:19 AM
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17. that's one thing that Paterno kept under control
he is/was one of the LEAST corrupt on that front. The new regime may be slimier, but his program was better than most on academics.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 05:34 PM
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8. paterno can't payback the children who were raped by his coach
Edited on Wed Dec-07-11 05:34 PM by spanone
just sayin'
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 06:35 PM
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11. and number one one
Pedophile cover ups.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 07:41 PM
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12. And the 9-3 team was punished by the Bowl people. Think about that: These players are age 18-22, and
Edited on Wed Dec-07-11 07:46 PM by WinkyDink
THEY ARE BEING PUNISHED (yes, the TicketCity Bowl is meant exactly to be that) FOR WHAT HAPPENED TO THEIR PEERS.

I call that a shame.
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