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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-11 11:19 AM Original message |
Believers deem atheists as untrustworthy as rapists |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-11 11:22 AM Response to Original message |
1. Fair's fair. I wouldn't hire a fundamentalist to babysit my kids either. n/t |
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That1202Anarchist (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-11 01:03 PM Response to Reply #1 |
63. Atheists are people too... |
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Walk away (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-11 02:28 PM Response to Reply #63 |
73. An awful lot of Atheists feel VERY superior to "Believers"... |
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Aerows (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-11 05:36 PM Response to Reply #73 |
86. I wouldn't say "superior" but so much life experience makes me regard them |
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Aerows (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-11 05:34 PM Response to Reply #1 |
85. I wouldn't hire a fundamentalist to babysit my garden, much less my children |
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peace13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-11 11:22 AM Response to Original message |
2. I believe that a percentage of believers have no moral compass whatsoever.. |
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Capitalocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-11 11:40 AM Response to Reply #2 |
13. I think you've hit the nail on the head there. |
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MattBaggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-11 11:41 AM Response to Reply #2 |
14. Which is why they hate us atheists so |
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Arugula Latte (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-11 11:44 AM Response to Reply #14 |
18. And they also hate us because they've invested a lot of psychic energy |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-11 11:46 AM Response to Reply #2 |
20. They are stuck at an inferior stage of moral development. |
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MattBaggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-11 11:52 AM Response to Reply #20 |
27. It's the kindergarten veiw |
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scorpiogirl (662 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-11 11:49 AM Response to Reply #2 |
25. Exactly! You said it well. |
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MattBaggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-11 11:56 AM Response to Reply #25 |
32. They get quite angry if you point out to them |
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scorpiogirl (662 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-11 12:43 PM Response to Reply #32 |
57. I think it pisses them off that non-believers don't live in fear. |
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saras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-11 11:56 AM Response to Reply #2 |
30. Yes! When I was attempting Christianity, I had Christians tell me this repeatedly |
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Withywindle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-11 11:43 PM Response to Reply #30 |
94. Scary, isn't it? |
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CrispyQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-11 02:16 PM Response to Reply #2 |
67. They believe morality is about what one believes, when it's really about how one behaves. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-11 02:21 PM Response to Reply #2 |
68. +1 |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-11 11:23 AM Response to Original message |
3. And all because I don't believe in invisible sky wizards. (sigh) nt |
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sinkingfeeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-11 11:24 AM Response to Original message |
4. How would they know since it's against our US laws to ask a job applicant about their |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-11 11:32 AM Response to Reply #4 |
9. Oh that's easily gotten around by asking questions like "what church do you go to?" |
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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-11 11:38 AM Response to Reply #9 |
10. I usually hear "What sort of organizations do you belong to?" |
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MattBaggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-11 11:43 AM Response to Reply #10 |
17. NAMBLA, American Satanist Institute, S&M Lovers of America |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-11 06:13 PM Response to Reply #17 |
91. ! |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-11 02:27 PM Response to Reply #10 |
72. Wow I've never been asked that. |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-11 12:02 PM Response to Reply #9 |
36. ^ This |
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sinkingfeeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-11 12:07 PM Response to Reply #9 |
37. I never give straight answers to those questions either. I state that where I attend church is |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-11 12:17 PM Response to Reply #37 |
47. Yes but you answered that you go to church. Most employers don't care WHERE you go but that you go. |
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sinkingfeeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-11 12:52 PM Response to Reply #47 |
60. Yep, but that's a lie. |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-11 12:59 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. Doesn't matter. You essentially told them you go to church. |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-11 11:45 AM Response to Reply #4 |
19. Formally, yes. But I was in a work situation a few years ago where there... |
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sinkingfeeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-11 12:11 PM Response to Reply #19 |
40. The clique could have been charged with harassment under Title VII if someone had the guts. |
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Nevernose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-11 11:56 AM Response to Reply #4 |
31. I was investigated at work for being an atheist |
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sinkingfeeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-11 12:12 PM Response to Reply #31 |
41. I hope you sued the school district. |
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Godhumor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-11 05:08 PM Response to Reply #31 |
81. At the last school I taught at, I had to be swear an oath at the district office. |
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lbrtbell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-11 11:25 AM Response to Original message |
5. Funny, it's the "believers" that are the most untrustworthy |
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HopeHoops (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-11 11:26 AM Response to Original message |
6. Athiests and rapists both deem "believers" as untrustworthy. |
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GoCubsGo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-11 11:27 AM Response to Original message |
7. Well, being agnostic, rather than atheist... |
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MattBaggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-11 11:48 AM Response to Reply #7 |
23. We had one of them in our city. |
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GoCubsGo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-11 05:27 PM Response to Reply #23 |
83. A good third of the businesses in my town are like that. |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-11 11:28 AM Response to Original message |
8. Seems to be a conclusion shared by those side against the other... |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-11 11:41 AM Response to Reply #8 |
16. No; "The antipathy does not seem to run both ways, though." |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-11 11:48 AM Response to Reply #16 |
24. Yes. It does appear so |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-11 12:00 PM Response to Reply #24 |
34. So you're saying you'll ignore the survey results |
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MedicalAdmin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-11 12:18 PM Response to Reply #24 |
48. In my experience.... |
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Morning Dew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-11 12:46 PM Response to Reply #48 |
58. Here's a head exploder - A Christ Centered Car Dealer. |
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MedicalAdmin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-11 04:46 PM Response to Reply #58 |
78. WTF? |
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HappyMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-11 11:38 AM Response to Original message |
11. I have never filled out a job app that |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-11 11:40 AM Response to Original message |
12. Well that explains the anti-athiest vitrol in Religion/Theology. |
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Quantess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-11 11:41 AM Response to Original message |
15. Where do they find all these nitwits? |
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pipi_k (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-11 11:47 AM Response to Original message |
21. Oh, the irony!!!!!! |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-11 11:48 AM Response to Original message |
22. The feeling is mutual... |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-11 11:52 AM Response to Reply #22 |
26. No actually. There is not an equivalent number of atheists who equate believers with rapists |
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Arugula Latte (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-11 11:56 AM Response to Reply #26 |
29. Oh, and also there are many "militant" atheists! |
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Bigmack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-11 12:17 PM Response to Reply #29 |
46. Actually, I'm getting more "militant" all the time..... |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-11 11:59 AM Response to Reply #26 |
33. There is indeed a post on this very thread which |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-11 12:16 PM Response to Reply #33 |
44. One person on a thread of more than 40 replies so far? That's anecdotal and not supported by the |
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sinkingfeeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-11 12:20 PM Response to Reply #33 |
50. Not sure I agree. There is a post that one would not use services of a person that |
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callous taoboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-11 12:47 PM Response to Reply #50 |
59. You hit the nail on the head. It is offensive, and I'd bet some x-tians find it offensive as well. |
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MedicalAdmin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-11 12:25 PM Response to Reply #33 |
52. Where? |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-11 12:30 PM Response to Reply #52 |
54. Post #7. However, I agree that that post doesn't explicitly say they don't patronize that |
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MedicalAdmin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-11 04:47 PM Response to Reply #54 |
79. Thanks - I thought I was losing the ability to read. |
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CrispyQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-11 02:33 PM Response to Reply #33 |
75. I'm not a believer & here's my take on businesses that use the fish or cross in their marketing. |
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Lance_Boyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-11 02:47 PM Response to Reply #33 |
76. no, you read/are reading it wrong. |
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hifiguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-11 05:47 PM Response to Reply #76 |
88. Ohh, that was gooood. |
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backscatter712 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-11 01:05 PM Response to Reply #26 |
64. Nevertheless, these days, I'd think twice before leaving my kids with a Catholic priest... n/t |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-11 05:03 PM Response to Reply #26 |
80. hold your horses... |
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Fuzz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-11 11:54 AM Response to Original message |
28. Yup. Seen it first hand. |
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Greybnk48 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-11 12:02 PM Response to Original message |
35. That's because they know what they themselves are |
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RegieRocker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-11 12:10 PM Response to Original message |
38. By an aetheist, for atheists about how bad non atheists are. |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-11 12:32 PM Response to Reply #38 |
55. Could you provide a link that says the study's authors are atheists? |
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RegieRocker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-11 10:34 PM Response to Reply #55 |
93. Hmmm did you ask the question "link for the study"? |
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hifiguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-11 12:10 PM Response to Original message |
39. These "believers" are totally fucked in the head. |
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raccoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-11 12:24 PM Response to Reply #39 |
51. Great quote! |
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Quartermass (207 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-11 12:13 PM Response to Original message |
42. When they say atheism is a faith... |
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raccoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-11 12:15 PM Response to Original message |
43. Like OF COURSE a rapist couldn't be a believer? LOL. |
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dtexdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-11 12:16 PM Response to Original message |
45. Incompetent headline: it suggests that believers only trust religious rapists. |
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raccoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-11 12:18 PM Response to Original message |
49. "If you believe your behaviour is being watched (by God) you are going to be on your best behaviour, |
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bowens43 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-11 12:25 PM Response to Original message |
53. believers are such idiots................ |
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RebelOne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-11 12:41 PM Response to Reply #53 |
56. You want to see idiots, go to RaptureReady.com. |
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MicaelS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-11 12:55 PM Response to Original message |
61. The amusing thing is in tolerant secular Canada..... |
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LAGC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-11 01:25 PM Response to Original message |
65. Haters keep on hatin'. |
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freshwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-11 01:51 PM Response to Original message |
66. One who disputes that: 'Religious do not have monopoly on virtue, Queen tells synod' |
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Walk away (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-11 02:24 PM Response to Original message |
69. I worked in retail operations for years and I (informally) discovered that I hired less christians. |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-11 02:26 PM Response to Original message |
70. Considering I believe most of what they believe is fucking rediculous.... |
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B Calm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-11 02:26 PM Response to Original message |
71. As a non believer, I deem believers as whacked out child molesting fruit cakes! |
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Snotcicles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-11 02:29 PM Response to Original message |
74. I wonder if they hang out with as many Atheists as they do Rapists. nt |
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Downwinder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-11 03:35 PM Response to Original message |
77. When I opened a printing shop, I was advised to never |
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krabigirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-11 05:18 PM Response to Original message |
82. why do people care so much what other people believe? |
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GoCubsGo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-11 05:27 PM Response to Reply #82 |
84. You just answered your own question. |
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Aerows (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-11 05:40 PM Response to Original message |
87. If Fundamentalist Christians are upset |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-11 05:52 PM Response to Original message |
89. Mind boggling. As an atheist I look at people like that and |
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Ezlivin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-11 05:56 PM Response to Original message |
90. As a very proud ex-believer |
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backscatter712 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-11 06:50 PM Response to Original message |
92. And I distrust fundies and Catholic priests as much as I do rapists... |
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