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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 02:45 PM
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I'm buying some holiday gifts for friends and family, Anyone got a problem with that?

Hope to find some gifts at a deep discount at Target.

Anyone got a problem with me and about 90% or more of working class shoppers who have a few bucks and intend to buy presents for our friends and loved ones during the holidays?
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Mojorabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 02:47 PM
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1. I am finding handmade awesome items on etsy.
Ihave no problem with you deciding on Target instead.
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 02:48 PM
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2. Thanks. I'm growing tired of attacks on working class shoppers who buy things at discount stores.

I don't shop on Rodeo Drive.
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 03:17 PM
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18. Etsy is a great place to shop. It's almost better than buying at the mom and pop stores
because the money goes directly to the artisan or crafter.


Brilliant idea to shop there!



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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 02:49 PM
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3. "Anyone got a problem with that?" posts always go well.
:eyes:
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 02:50 PM
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4. I explain that comment in my follow-up #2 post.
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Dreamer Tatum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 02:50 PM
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5. In all fairness, people on DU have been Black Friday Sourpusses for years.
Every year, like clockwork.
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lillypaddle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 02:51 PM
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6. Wanna make somethin' of it????
Edited on Sun Nov-27-11 02:52 PM by lillypaddle
There, I finished the op for you. Personally, I have no problem with what anyone wants to do to celebrate, nor where they buy gifts.
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Texasgal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 02:51 PM
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7. Nope!
None at all! Infact I went shopping on black friday! OH THE HORRORS!

Found some really good deals on some winter clothing and some work boots for my husband. Also found some cute things for my three year old nephew.

No problem here! :)

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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 02:53 PM
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10. Good for you! Nothing wrong with trying to save some money on gifts and necessities.
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 02:53 PM
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8. I've bought a few things on-line -
will stop at Target at some point to finish up the kids' gifts. We are spending much less this year, about half, and using the other $$ to travel to family & do some donating.

I have seen many facebook posts and the like the last few days going on about Walmart but I don't know what folks expect - if you are going to prop up Capitalism you are going to see desperate people. Change the economic system and you might see better behaviors rewarded.
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 02:53 PM
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9. Unrec for pugnacious truculence
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 02:55 PM
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11. Thank you for your inspiring words ........................

what the hell did they just write?

A regular smarty pants!

:)
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Bobbie Jo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 02:58 PM
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12. Privilege has it's advantages.
Edited on Sun Nov-27-11 03:14 PM by Bobbie Jo
Unrec, as per usual.

Stupid fucking OP.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 02:59 PM
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13. I'm information central for the family pool.
We draw names, and buy one gift; each of us gets one gift for the holidays. Plus we buy for the grandkid, and I help the grandkid make gifts for everyone else. We don't have a big family, but the economic disaster has hit all of our budgets hard, and this system reduces financial stress.

We drew names Thursday. I have to buy some supplies for the grandkid; I think we'll make salt scrubs this year. Hopefully the men will use them. :D

I already have a gift for the grandkid; I won it in a drawing in October, and it's cool. I think he'll really like it. I just have one gift to buy. My once a month payday is Wednesday. I can start looking then.

Meanwhile, each person writes their "Santa" a letter, emails it to me, and I forward it. We have a $50 spending limit, which might be one thing or several. We like to have an idea what would be appreciated, so the money isn't wasted; we don't include gift receipts for returns. What's the point? We could have just handed over cash. A person might get one or more of the things on their wish list, or something entirely different that the giver knew they would love. We don't know the giver until xmas day.

I remember the days when I had enough to buy small things for many friends and all of my family. I don't expect to see those days again.

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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 03:01 PM
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15. You do the best you can with the resources you have. Have a wonderful Holiday season.
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joeglow3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 03:00 PM
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14. You materialistic son of a bitch.
Don't you know you could just make shit for them?

:sarcasm:
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 03:06 PM
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16. That's me!

Just buying crappy stuff all the time for me and loved ones whether we need "stuff" or not!

Believe it or not I bought some roses as a birthday gife for my spouse and they died!

What a waste!

I could have printed out some picture of roses on my computer and gave them as my birthday present!

Of course, that would have turned me into "a cheap son of a bitch"!

:)
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 03:26 PM
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22. omg I had to read your post twice.
I at first thought you were mad because the roses you purchased outlasted your spouse.

:spray:
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 03:09 PM
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17. My only problem is you said Holiday and not Christmas
War on Christmas!

:rofl:
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Lyric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 03:19 PM
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19. No problem here. I'll buy something for my son, I'm sure.
But I'm making most of my gifts through needlecraft, if I can find some more yarn.

:hi:
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hack89 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 03:20 PM
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20. Not all all - you do what you need to do. nt
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nini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 03:23 PM
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21. Well, since you asked.. Target is so anti-union you should look elsewhere
They're as bad as WalMart.

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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 06:15 PM
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30. I can't find any pro-union department stores! And the labor movement is not organizing a boycott .

of Target, Wal-Mart, etc.,
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nini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 09:38 PM
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48. You need a 'organized' boycott? Really?
There aren't ANY small businesses you can shop at?


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/06/18/986491/-Contin...

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/08/16/1007722/-Targe...

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20011983-503544....

there's plenty more. Not only are the actively go against unions they're also anti-gay.



but, if it's too much effort to think creatively for gifts then would you at least try to buy American? (don't think so)

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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-11 03:58 PM
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59. The answer is YES! That's because I'm union and you're not. How's your boycott going?

And where is your list of pro-union department stores and other businesses?

Can't find any?

So stop pretending to be a great pro-worker and pro-union person.

And cut the bull shit about boycotts that are opposed by the labor movement and are being promoted by a few self-proclaimed leaders of the working masses!

So your're boycotting Target and others stores without any kind of support from authentic workers organizations.

How's that going for ya?

Didn't seem to have much of an impact on Friday shoppers!

:)
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 03:48 PM
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23. Good luck to you but I think the real steals are gone.
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saras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 03:55 PM
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24. I presume you're asking such a loaded question because you WANT to hear why not...
...and not just to be a jerk.

How much money are you spending? That's how much you are voting for Target's corporate policies - all of them. Do you feel good when you explain to your family and friends exactly what policies you had to support to get them those gifts? Is it more money than you spend on opposing their policies?

Did you consider local businesses? Did you consider gifts that weren't disposable consumer junk? Did you consider putting time, effort, and love into the gifts instead of money?

One of the major presents I'm getting for all the people I'm involved with on the holidays is that I am NOT going to get involved in consumerism just to give them a more fifties materialist Christmas experience. It doesn't mean they aren't going to get gifts that please them and make their lives better.

Is that what you were looking for?
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 06:22 PM
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31. Are you trying to run my life and tell me what kinds of gifts I should not buy?
Edited on Sun Nov-27-11 06:23 PM by Better Believe It
Well, if so, you know what you can do.

And you suggest I'm the one that's being a jerk!

If you don't want to buy gifts for friends or loved ones because you're so much better than the rest of us and above "consumerism" that's your right.

However, don't accuse others of being anti-union because we shop at stores that are non-union when I bet you buy things at such outlets every week!

Can't you name some department stores and other employers that are pro-union?

I can't find any!

And since you're so very, very pro-worker and pro union you should know that the labor movement IS NOT calling for a boycott of Target, Wal-Mart and other non-union stores.

You did know that .... right?
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Bobbie Jo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 06:53 PM
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38. You put your "life" out there...as it were.
Otherwise....who gives a shit about how and where you shop?

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Bobbie Jo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 06:43 PM
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35. Most definitely the latter.
I'll take Jerk for $500, Alex.
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Lucky Luciano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 07:14 PM
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40. There it is. I was wondering when the
...judgmental liberal who always out-liberals other liberals would show up.
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Texasgal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 08:00 PM
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46. Good GOD!
Are you kidding?

Fer fucks sakes! Some of us cannot afford to go to the all organic market and pick up all organic handmade gifts!

I found work boots for my husband for 16.00. They will last him all year! I also found a few sweaters for me at the cost of 18.00 dollars that will get me through winter. I also purchased a puzzle for my nephew for three bucks. Where? Academy, Target and Big Lots.

I'm glad that you can afford to shop non-corporate. Some of us can't.
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 10:34 PM
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50. Exactly! We do what we have to do when shopping in order to save money.

If you're loaded with cash you can shop at Whole Foods and other fancy stores.
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nini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 04:35 PM
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27. Personally.. I don't have apple products either
Couldn't stand that guy or the product line.

Some of us are consistent.

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Response Donating Member (213 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 04:20 PM
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26. No, not at all. Please consume.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 10:52 PM
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52. they are easily threatened, aren't they?
:rofl:
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Response Donating Member (213 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-11 01:04 AM
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54. My concern is that we live in a consumer society where the very corporations

that provide us with a great many things want to make a bloodsport out of it.

They're not just happy to reap a profit on cheap Chinese crap, but they also want us to fight for the three $200 dollar TVs that are in the store.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-11 01:14 AM
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55. absolutely correct
I'm not upset at people trying to find bargains - it's the corporate-induced shopping hysteria that sickens me
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peacebird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 05:01 PM
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28. I personally prefer to buy at local stores, or find fun stuff at second hand shops
And make jams,jelly, pickles, and horseradish to give as well. The "big" gift is a family vacation with my mom, brothers family, and us. My brother and I pay for mom and the kids. This year things are kind of tight so we are going to use a cousins beach house for the long weekend.

That said, I do not criticize your choices, except maybe the pugnacious phrasing?

Wishing you and yours a wonderful holiday filled with love and joy!
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 05:03 PM
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29. Not particularly
Why are you feeling insulted for that today?
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 07:11 PM
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39. probably because of what he would say if someone else
or obama did the same
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 06:24 PM
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32. no...no problem with it
:shrug:
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 06:24 PM
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33. buy American
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 06:26 PM
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34. Do what you need to do
I tried buying dinner, but restaurant in Hawaii is that small.
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 06:48 PM
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36. Capitalist scum!
Brainwashed consumer!!
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a la izquierda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 06:52 PM
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37. Nope, I sure don't
I try not to tell people what to do, unless I'm driving. :) But then my windows are closed and they can't hear me anyway.

I shopped on Black Friday. I'm such a shitty socialist. Bit it allows me to afford to buy crap for my husband's extremely conservative family (mostly just the kids). One of these days, I'm just gonna make donations and they can suck it.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 07:16 PM
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41. I'm buying porn for my 115 yr. old grandfather
then, I'm taking him to IHOP for some cheesecake filled pancakes and a smoke.
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 07:36 PM
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43. Bet he would really appreciate a years supply of Viagra!

:)
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 07:49 PM
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44. He's 115, though
Maybe we'd be better taking it month by month.
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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 07:17 PM
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42. I think that people should masturbate in private. Anyone got a problem with that?
:rofl:
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varelse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 07:52 PM
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45. nope, it's all good
Just leave the firearms and the pepper spray at home, and we're cool :P
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 08:47 PM
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47. I hope some of the stuff you get is made in America by American, Union Members, ideally...
I know it's hard but the stuff is there, and the more we chose it the more likely it will STAY available.

Happy Holiday.

:hi:
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 10:28 PM
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49. Some is but that's getting harder and harder to find. Some European goods are union made.
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 10:39 PM
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51. Why would you think any of us would care?...nt
Sid
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 10:53 PM
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53. because
Edited on Sun Nov-27-11 10:54 PM by Skittles
they seem to believe that people sickened by the corporate-induced Black Friday frenzy are anti-shopping in general :o
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-11 01:24 AM
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56. Not me, I'm going to be doing some holiday shopping too
I don't like to shop this early though.
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Prometheus Bound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-11 01:37 AM
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57. *shakes fist*
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canetoad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-11 02:02 AM
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58. The only problem I have is with the
aggressive subject line of your OP.

But answer this; why are you buying 'holiday' gifts. Do you really mean Christmas presents? Or can't you say that word because you are not religious?

I'm not religious but have no problems with calling the day Christmas because ....that's what it is to millions of people who celebrate. I don't waste time debating the rights or wrongs, the commercialisation or the hypocrisy because it's still all going to be there next year. Not a damn thing I can say or do will change that.

Good luck with convincing yourself that consumerism is noble if you're buying for someone else.
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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-11 07:16 PM
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61. Is there only one holiday in December in your hemisphere?
There's at least two in this one. Hint: they're within days of eachother this year. HTH HAND.
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snooper2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-11 04:01 PM
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60. No, I got a problem with you not releasing that god dammed album you promised
Edited on Mon Nov-28-11 04:11 PM by snooper2
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