Pres. Obama's statement on peaceful protest (pic)

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[piratefish08]

2. universal means everywhere in the universe. hard to misinterpret that, isn't it?

[Fumesucker]

3. We must find some way to reach Obama and let him know what's happening..

He would do something or at least make a statement condemning these outrages if he only knew about them.

Help us Obama wan Kenobi, you're our only hope.

[piratefish08]

5. 6 degrees and all, he's insulated, he doesn't involve himself in local politics, he's saving the

universe - priorities and stuff, iran gonna blow shit up, why do you love President Newt......

is that all of them?


fuck it now - here's his whole speech from the Whitehouse website.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2011/01/28/r...



somebody please email it to him.

[LWolf]

13. !

[Lorien]

20. He knows exactly what's happening

but he's Goldman Sachs sock puppet, so the beatings will continue.

[Bluesbreaker]

39. Hypocrisy has its own elegant symmetry

― Julie Metz, Perfection: A Memoir of Betrayal and Renewal

[truth2power]

24. You jest, of course. n/t

[SidDithers]

25. Was clever at first, getting kinda old now...nt

Sid

[rhett o rick]

27. You never thought it was clever sid. I do agree that it is getting old that Obama

will speak out for freedoms in other nations but turns his back on the 99%.

[SidDithers]

30. Follow the thread tree. I wasn't talking to you...nt

Sid

[rhett o rick]

57. What do you think it says to the 99% when Obama chooses Jeff Immelt? nm

[Divernan]

88. Sid, why do you use your avatar? You do know how crude it is, don't you?

[Shining Jack]

107. "Follow the thread tree."

Well, someone asked you a question, could you follow the thread tree and give an answer?

[INdemo]

45. he turned his back on the Democratic party in favor of Wall St..

Obama is all talk and only acts when its in the best interest of the corporate mafia. A George Bush third term. But he is the best Republican we have that is running as a Democrat.

[shockra]

47. He's Bush's brother from another mother.

I guess that's where the "he inherited this mess" meme came from.

[rhett o rick]

58. See the link in the message for my opinion.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

[INdemo]

90. I agree..Obama tries to feed Democrats enough crumbs

to try and keep them happy..It doesnt work. Talk to a Democrat locally and if its like my area of residence,they will tell you they don't care about the election because they see no difference in Romney and Obama..They think either one is going to destroy SS and medicare..So is there a big difference?Except one wont admit getting corporate funding and the other one has dinner with them.

[Occulus]

56. You really shouldn't talk about yourself that way, Sid.

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[Skittles]

31. HE KNOWS!!!!

[woo me with science]

53. I don't think that would do any good.

He is pretty helpless in these things, as we've been told repeatedly. I suspect he doesn't know anyone in politics.

[emilyg]

68. He knows what's happening.

[tabasco]

93. So does Hillary.

WHY HASN'T SHE SPOKEN OUT?!?!

[emilyg]

95. Because he's her boss.

[tabasco]

98. How courageous of her.

I see why you adore her.

[emilyg]

100. How smart of her.

[tabasco]

101. Tell me why it's smart of her.

This oughta be good.

[emilyg]

102. If she showed Obama up - you can bet DU would be in

an uproar. Good to not make your boss look stupid.

[tabasco]

103. LOL! Because DU is all about defending Obama and questioning

the protesters. Ahhh... you didn't disappoint.

Of course, it's wise for Saint Hillary to stay silent, but for Obama - the SHAME!

She's "just following orders." GOT IT!

[emilyg]

106. I'm tired. You win.

[roguevalley]

73. reach him? He can't alienate the billionaires on wall street for the

money he needs. What's a few peons getting hurt to the OVERARCHING GOAL OF GETTING TWO TERMS AND A FUCKING LEGACY!!!

His legacy, all right, will be epic, the coward.

[cyglet]

4. As usual

everyone else in the world should have individual rights. Only corporations have rights here.

[mmonk]

6. We're not Egyptians.

[piratefish08]

7. "rights that are universal"

[mmonk]

21. I know.

Just being snarky. I've got to learn to quit taking those openings.

[tblue]

77. Gives me an idea.

How about we call ourselves Egyptians? Or Libyans. Maybe that way we'll get those famous universal rights.

[Locrian]

8. pretty clear

"... And the United States will stand up for them everywhere."......


Righhhht. Except New York, Portland, San Francisco.......


Actions and words. Actions and words....

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[qb]

10. I guess he meant the US will stand up for them everywhere else.

After all, according to the Bill of Rights, Americans are already good to go. Right?

[sabrina 1]

48. We stand up for them over there so we don't have to stand up

for them here??

[The Doctor.]

67. Ouch.

Yours?

[sabrina 1]

96. Well, couldn't think of any other reason for the silence of our

friends ...

[Raksha]

74. Good one! Correction: Not-so-good one.

Re "We stand up for them over there so we don't have to stand up for them here??"

[Katie]

11. Big K&R!

[indepat]

12. Tis a shame Americans don't have the same human rights as the Egyptians and

others.

[hifiguy]

14. Everywhere except the United States itself,

so it seems.

[Huey P. Long]

15. Maybe Obama will do a skit on finding his 'comfortable shoes' like Bush did w/WMDs in his office.

[MrMickeysMom]

104. Comfortable shoes... Yeah, that's it...

Just put em on.... Join the many, many, many, many people growing every day.... You better get several pairs, Mr. President.

Stand up and fucking WALK THE WALK.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

16. Which exemplifies the meaning of "two-faced".

Two faced: Hypocritical or double-dealing; deceitful.

[KoKo]

33. Yes and there's an "L" word...there to add.

sad as it is that we would have to see this and suffer through it... when the warnings were out there for years..

[Eyerish]

17. K&R

[Blue Owl]

18. Occupy Like an Egyptian...

n/t

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[SammyWinstonJack]

22. Explain that photo with your own words across it, to your daughters, Mr President.

I dare you.


Hypocrite!

[Amonester]

23. +1

The Whole World Watching

The Whole World Waiting (for an explanation).

[kster]

26. ....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbzFXSpYnVw

[Amonester]

35. Is there any U-Tube access on AF1?

Someone's got some 'splaining to do, methinks...

[nc4bo]

28. Hmmm.......

Different set of circumstances. Completely. Different. Yep.

Don't you just hate it when words bite back?

[wakemewhenitsover]

29. Maybe we need the Egyptians...

... to call on US authorities to refrain from any violence against peaceful protestors....

K&R

[sabrina 1]

50. The Tunisians did.

The Tunisian protesters did that. They left messages on Obama's FB page.

And the Egyptians had a solidarity march with OWS after the violence in Oakland.

Someone cares about the American people, just not in America.

[wakemewhenitsover]

59. Good to know.

[tblue]

78. Good one. We should ask them

to help save us.

[KoKo]

32. Fascinating.............(when the shoe is on the other foot) K&R!

[NorthCarolina]

34. That's not here though. We support protests in other countries, even violent protests,

just not here in the Land of the Free, well, with the exception of Koch sponsored protests of course, where the protestors carry guns to Presidential rally's and such...those are ok.

[polichick]

36. Love that good ol' American rhetoric - we also stand for democratic elections...

...everywhere but here.

[Desertrose]

37. Everywhere? Really? What about here? nt

[bluethruandthru]

38. Well....Almost everywhere. n/t

[SaveOurDemocracy]

40. Pretty speeches = empty rhetoric. What DOES he believe in?

[StreetKnowledge]

55. Absolutely Nothing except his own re-election.

If this board's apologists for our sorry-ass corporate-robot excuse for a President can't figure that out by now, they really should not pay attention to politics and let those of us who live in the real world worry about it.

[DeSwiss]

41. K&R n/t

[quinnox]

42. I see from all the deleted messages this got some folks very upset

I understand how some devotees of the president would get very angry when seeing this pointed out.

This says it all, Obama can make statements supportive of protesters in Egypt but when it comes to the USA there is a dead silence.

Talk about being hypocritical.

[Autumn]

43. Stand up for them as long as they are not here.

isn't that right Obama?

[certainot]

44. can you imagine bush saying that! i hope he stays out of it since the left has no clue what to do

with the right's best weapon- 1000 coordinated radio stations that have been trashing OWS and everything progressive for years- and since that same mechanism will be used to spin whatever he says whatever way wall st wants.

why the fuck do you need obama now?

pretty soon they'll have obama on the boat pushing natalie wood

[Better Believe It]

46. It appears that President Obama will stand up for those rights everywhere .... except in the U.S.

[sce56]

49. That is the "Do as I say not as I do mentality!" The US has been very good at that game for years!

[pam4water]

51. K&R That was his limp statement after he told the protesters to stop throwing themselves in front

bullets.

[Mosaic]

52. He needs to speak out against the assault on our First Ammendment

And quickly, if he wants to be re-elected.

[RegieRocker]

54. Soon he will be completely fubarred. It will be over for him.

[emsimon33]

60. Obama = a Wall Street puppet

[Starry Messenger]

61. k&r

[krispos42]

62. Doesn't the fact that it's universal make it international?

[Fire Walk With Me]

63. K&R!

[lonestarnot]

64. We're walking like Egyptians now!

K & R!

[The Doctor.]

65. Yep, let's see him live up to those words.

I like Obama, but I hate hypocrites. I'm pretty averse to dilemmas, so he'd better step up.

[frylock]

66. what happened to the rapid response team? musta really struck a chord.

k to the r

[Dystopian]

69. KandR

Not surprised, sadly.


peace~

[caseymoz]

70. This oppression should discredit the US government everywhere in the world

But it will probably gain sympathy for its citizens, especially the Occupiers.

Obama's contrary statement should tell people just how Orwellian our corporate nation has become.

[quakerboy]

71. Apparently democracy is only available in limited quantity

and as we export it, we have less for ourselves.

Cause otherwise the current situation makes no sense.

[Supply Side Jesus]

79. ya....sorry....we are all out of Democracy... would you like some

Theological Tribunals instead? ya...it'll be on back order till at least 2016...

[girl_interrupted]

72. I received an email from Dr.Jill Biden

this evening, asking to sign a birthday card for Joe. I felt like emailing her back & asking her to sign a get well card for Dorli Rainey, and Brandon Watts, and all the other protesters, who put themselves on the line for what they believe in and got pepper sprayed & beaten for it. But I know, it would be a waste of time, because I will just get some automated response back. But I just had to stop and ask myself..what the hell is wrong with these politicians? They are always asking if you "have their backs" when it comes to elections, but I just would like to know if they have ours. Obviously not. What I have seen the past couple of days, is some of the worst cases of police brutality perpetrated on protesters. It's sad what has become of America. And who speaks up for these people? Certainly not the "birthday boy" or his boss. They should be ashamed, truly, ashamed. This is just so upsetting.

[sabrina 1]

76. The worst cases of police brutality, yes. And still, no one has

been held accountable. The brutal attack on Kayvan Sabeghi now has video evidence of what happened, pretty much proving what he said. When the Guardian asked the Oakland Police if there was an investigation going on, or if they would name those who attacked him, they were told there will be an investigation. Will be?? Shouldn't those cops already be off the force and facing charges?

Same thing with Scott Olsen. No one has been prosecuted for that attack either and that cop should be charged with attempted manslaughter at least, if not attempted murder. But all we get is silence.

[girl_interrupted]

82. Wait till you hear this! Guess who Obama made a statement about

"President Obama honors Heavy D in statement read at the rapper’s star-studded Mount Vernon funeral" http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/music-arts/pre...

I liked Heavy D's music too...but come on...give me a break. You can find time for that, but you can't speak up for protesters getting the shit beat out of them? And they can find time to ask you to sign a birthday card for Joe Biden?

It's bad enough Bloomberg is going around claiming "Victory" over the protesters. "Victory" can u imagine? Sending out his goon squad fully equipped with riot gear and anything else you can imagine, against a group of unarmed protesters. Can u say "Big Bully"?

You're right, no one has been charged, and I doubt anyone will. At best one of Bloomberg's thugs lost a few vacation days. In the meantime all over the country police continue to savage unarmed protesters. And it's being met with silence.

And yet if it's another country, well then, the administration will speak out, send help if necessary, because we are so "big" on human rights...unless it's for our own citizens. Go figure that one out.

I'm angry, I'm frustrated and disgusted. Shamar Thomas was at OWS one night, trying to help out and all I can think of were his words "There is no honor in this, these people are unarmed" I wish someone like that was in office now. But sadly, they aren't.

I've called, I've written, I've marched. I won't give up on OWS, but I've just about given up on my representatives. I guess they feel what OWS stands for, puts them in a bad light some how. Otherwise I can't understand their refusal to acknowledge what's happening and say or do something about it.

The highlight of my day was this "An ‘Occupy Wall St.’ Thanksgiving: New York chef planning massive feast for protesters" http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/occupy-wall-st-than...

There are a lot of good people out there, too bad no one is listening to them.

Edmund Burke said all that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Do not allow evil to triumph. Do not do sit by and do nothing. But that's exactly what we are seeing now, and it's sad.

[sabrina 1]

83. Don't give up, this movement is getting stronger and will not

be going away. Bloomberg is an idiot and would not be Mayor if he had not bought it. No one listens to him anymore. Like Giuliani, by the end of his term he was at 28% approval rating, another bullying thug who hated the poor and minorities. But then 9/11 happened, and the PTBs made him a hero, which he definitely was not, in fact he was a coward.

The reason they are all silent may be because they know more than we do. People are now doing a lot of research to try to find out what exactly is going on. Why there is a concerted effort to destroy this movement and who is directing. I have a feeling with so many people working on this, we WILL find out.

Check out this story, eg, and you have to wonder, was the military involved also? http://www.armytimes.com/news/2008/09/army_homeland_090... /

Read the whole thing. I find this to be very disturbing. Since when was it constitutional to 'deploy' the Military to the 'Homeland' to 'deal with Civil Unrest, armed with 'non-lethal weapons'? These are the questions Congress needs to answer, and they need to be asked 'is this a war on the American people, approved of by this Government, is this why you are all silent, cowards'?

I too am very angry, and so are a lot of people. But the movement is exposing things we did not know about and the independent media and some cable networks are good at disseminating information, more so than during the early Bush years. Which, btw, that group Perf, is now working on, probably readin this forum also.

[Divernan]

86. Obama's behavior & administration are surreal & Kafkaesque

# Marked by a senseless, disorienting, often menacing complexity.

Kafkaesque bureaucracies

# Marked by surreal distortion and often a sense of impending danger.

[LibDemAlways]

80. Well Biden actually was in NYC this week. He

visited the set of the morning show "Live" so he could sing the praises of departing host Regis Philbin. When it comes to the Obama admin. actions definitely speak louder than words.

[Devil_Fish]

75. I love it. The United States should stand up for these human rights everywhere. NT

[UnrepentantLiberal]

81. +1,000,000,000

But then again, he's just playing chess.

[Divernan]

87. History repeats itself, but Obama & his administration are blind to it.

Czar Nicholas & Czarina Alexandra listened enthfalled to their advisor, Rasputin and never heard the crowds marching through the streets of St. Petersburg and massing at the gates of the Winter Palace.

Louis the XVI was similarly clueless and ineffectual at responding to the demands of his impoverished subjects.

We thought we elected a progressive democrat, but we got a wanna-be monarch.

[Bluenorthwest]

89. Hypocrisy is a Sacrament- A Holy Union between One Man and

his Two Faces.

[Divine Discontent]

91. back to the top where you belong. thousands of unarmed Americans have been beaten, sprayed, and arre...

it would be nice to see candidate Obama inform President Obama he talked a good game in the election cycle, and, about the overseas protests. how many people get tear gas down the throat or beaten senseless before he gets the nation's top cop to instruct cops to just arrest if the law is broken, not do harm?

[Jamastiene]

92. Kick

[SaveOurDemocracy]

94. Words matter? K&R

[piratefish08]

97. kick

[treestar]

99. Egypt doesn't have a First Amendment

It's not really the same thing. Couldn't Obama just assume our police will respect those same rights? But can't about Egypt.

I see people going out of their way here to find themselves victimized by just about every institution we have in this country.

[SomethingFishy]

105. Well, yes, Obama could assume that "our" police will respect

those same rights. And he would be DEAD FUCKING WRONG. As has been proven. So what's he going to do now? Will he continue to turn a blind eye to the oppression of the people of this nation or will he grow a fucking pair and stand up for what is right?

Or are you saying the protesters deserve what they are getting?

[Exilednight]

110. Egyptian Constitution Part III, Article 47 and Article 54

Article 47
Freedom of opinion is guaranteed.
Every individual has the right to express his opinion and to disseminate it verbally or in
writing or by photography or by other means within the limits of the law.
Self-criticism and constructive criticism is the guarantee for the safety of the nation.

Article 54
Citizens shall have the right to peaceable and unarmed private assembly, without the need for
prior notice.
Security personnel may not attend these private meetings.
Public meetings, processions and assemblies are allowed within the limits of the law.


From their 1971 Constitution.

[roman7]

108. dont count obama out

the majority of good old abe,s supporters were dissatisfied with his dragging feet & crazy wife & corruption & incompetence & baffoonery but ya gotta admit he had a plan.

[Divernan]

109. Oh the chutzpah! To compare Obama to Abe Lincoln!

I do agree that we can't count Obama out. He will probably get re-elected, and then he can do LOTS more favors for his Billion Dollar campaign contributors.