Does OWS need a leader,

[progressoid]

Poll question: Does OWS need a leader,

or a spokesperson?

Like a Martin Luther King Jr., or a Betty Friedan type??



edit: typo

[Orsino]

1. It shouldn't, but I'm afraid that it does.

For a bigger mind-share, OWS needs brand recognition, a personality. That unfortunately means a celebrity, whose face and actions could counter the whispers of cable news.

[Cirque du So-What]

2. I voted 'NO'

It needs multiple leaders and spokespersons. High-profile leaders draw allegations of 'cult of personality' and provide a convenient target. Better IMO that up-and-coming leaders are provided in turn with a chance to speak on various facets of the movement.

[KamaAina]

3. Here is the leader of Occupy Denver

the city insisted that there be a "leader" they could talk to.

So the Occupiers elected Shelby.



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[tblue]

Leader = Target

No, that's just asking to be squished.

[Warren Stupidity]

8. +1

[Fire Walk With Me]

10. +1. Yep, they would be literally waving a sign saying "you arrest me longtime"...

[tblue]

12. LOL...That's funny, even though not really, huh?

Wouldn't the PTB just adore the chance to make an example out of someone, a la, Bradley Manning or Julian Assange. Not saying they are the same as OWS, but theirs are examples of how the troublemakers get reigned in.

[Poll_Blind]

15. +1

PB

[MichaelMcGuire]

4. I think the other side are desperate for someone to attack and smear.

I voted no

[Bluenorthwest]

5. The message is the leadership, the speaking of that message

rotates nicely among Occupiers and allies.

[bengalherder]

6. Occupy is based on a model of protest also used by Anon.

There are no leaders, yet everyone is potentially a leader if they desire to take on a project.

This model has served well in the 3 or so years that Anon/Chanology has fought the "Church" of Scientology. No leaders kinda messes up the "church's" fair game tactics which are not at all dissimilar from the point and smear tactics of the "conservatives" in this country. Neither are good at fighting amorphous masses armed with Dox (documented truths, either gleaned from the internet, or leaked to the internet from insiders) and true ideals...and no leaders to smear. Look at what Cain is doing to the women who come against him, putting their lives on public display, while twisting the situation for his ends- that is not dissimilar to 'fair game'. Leaderlessness is our weapon against that.



We are outgrowing the need for the kind of paternalistic leader the opposition is demanding of us. We all know what is needed, we need to be what they call in business 'self-starters'. In fact opposition demands for leaders and itineraries should be indicators that we should keep this thing as blobular as possible for as long as possible. As Anon says "their tears of BAAAAAAH are sweet and give us joy."

[AntiFascist]

13. I agree...

this movement is lead by ideas. The best ideas will lead. Personalities will only get in the way, they can be targeted and they can also be corrupted or compromised.

[EFerrari]

18. Horizontality has been around for at least a decade and used

in Latin America, in Argentina for example.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horizontality

[Divine Discontent]

7. yes, we know any leader of this type of group would be a target for the evil sob's but, it certainly

would help to have a few leaders. the civil rights movement was greatly moved along by the efforts of it's leader.



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[Citizen Worker]

11. Yes, the civil rights movement had a very charismatic leader and when he was assassinated the

movement quietly faded into the background. Remaining leaderless and not a part of the democratic party establishment will enable OWS to live on and fight.

[Divine Discontent]

14. valid point. A lot occured due to that leader though. Either way, I think what was started Sept 17

will continue, regardless of the camps being wiped out. And that hope of it thriving still, is a very good thing.



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[HopeHoops]

9. If they had leaders, even on a minor scale, FOX would accuse them of smoking pot 40 years ago.

It would be 24x7 coverage, live from Aruba, about OWS leaders who SMOKED FUCKING POT, MAN!

[progressoid]

16. latenight kick

[ellisonz]

17. No.

It needs thousands of leaders.

[0rganism]

19. any leader(s) would be arrested or murdered by now

the only "safe" way to do this is for every person to be as much a leader as the next. GAs are a very good idea, in this respect.

not to say there can't be spokespeople who are reliable communicators and on-message designated to talk with the media, each occupy would be wise to have one or two designated speakers on tap for that, but the strength of this movement lies outside any few persons or personalities.

[AsahinaKimi]

20. Leaders can be killed.. or eliminated...

And there are people in this country, who would do just that...

[Amonester]

21. The leaders are the 99%.

Of this species, hoping to keep a good enough planet to sustain life, not destroy it.