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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-11 12:59 PM
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Why do you think liberal Democrats approve of President Obama more than the rest?
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-11 01:04 PM
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1. Do you have a poll that breaks down who his supporters are? I would be very curious to see
how it looks. :)
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-11 01:11 PM
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4. The Gallup presidential approval center has all that.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/124922/Presidential-Approval-Center.aspx

In short, the more liberal you are, the more likely you are to approve of Obama; the more educated you are, the more likely you are to approve of Obama; the younger you are, likewise.

A little over one third of whites approve of his job performance, but two thirds of non-whites do, including 87% of blacks, and 53% of hispanics. Obama has stronger approval in the east, but the rest of the country is actually pretty uniform.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-11 01:12 PM
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6. Thanks! This is interesting stuff.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-11 01:29 PM
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16. Well, duh--only a moron would think that a Romney or Cain Supreme Court would be a good idea!
People who can see the forest for the trees, who can walk and chew gum at the same time, 'get' it. That whole "perfect should not be the enemy of the good" thing.

The My Way or The Highway rigid ideologists are "I'll show YOU" hardliners, who would cut off their own noses to spite their faces, and leave us all screwed.
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WhaTHellsgoingonhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-11 12:08 AM
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40. You're changing the question.
Edited on Mon Nov-14-11 12:09 AM by WhaTHellsgoingonhere
The question is, "Do you approve of the President's performance?"

No.

Your question is, "Would you vote for one of the Republican Chuckleheads?"

No.


There's nothing inconsistent with these two responses.


Now, from your response here, it's a shit poll because people interpret "do you approve?" as "would you vote for?"
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bhikkhu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-11 04:23 PM
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36. ...the smarter you are, the more liberal you are, and the more likely to support the president
That is nice to hear, and an affirmation of how things seem to me locally.

That's not to say that you have to be smart to want to do the right thing, but its not always straightforward what that is, and people are easily conned into stupid positions.
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-11 01:13 PM
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7. Liberals still in Obama's corner, latest Gallup poll shows
Liberal approval of Obama stood at 72%, about 30 points above the general approval number and a touch higher than the 28-point advantage that Obama has averaged with liberals, according to the poll.

http://articles.latimes.com/2011/aug/03/news/la-pn-obama-liberals-gallup-poll-20110803
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-11 01:07 PM
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2. Because we love America more. n/t
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-11 01:16 PM
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12. +1
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-11 01:09 PM
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3. More than the rest....of whom? Voters in general? Democratic voters?
The rest of the candidates? Candidates from which party? All of them?

You can't toss off these silly one-liners without

a. Being clear about your meaning (and you were not with this one);

b. Providing substantiation for your assertions, like, say, a link to a poll.

It speaks to your veracity and earnestness, otherwise.
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-11 01:13 PM
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9. Liberals still in Obama's corner, latest Gallup poll shows
Liberals approval of Obama stood at 72%, about 30 points above the general approval number and a touch higher than the 28-point advantage that Obama has averaged with liberals, according to the poll.

See link above.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-11 01:13 PM
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8. Who said we (Liberals) do?
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-11 01:14 PM
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10. Every single poll?
See link above for one such example.
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-11 01:16 PM
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11. Because President Obama's progressive leadership inspires within our soul the thundering refrain of
"Yes We Can!"
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Zen Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-11 01:19 PM
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13. Because we are reasonable, analytical and know something about history and politics.
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pintobean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-11 01:21 PM
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14. I need the rest!
I've been working really hard, trying to figure out what some posts actually mean.
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-11 01:28 PM
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15. because anybody can identify as anything they like?
me? i'm batman.
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FBaggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-11 01:29 PM
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17. Because "liberal democrat" is another way of saying "the base"
Edited on Sat Nov-12-11 01:43 PM by FBaggins
They're more likely to support an incumbent of their party than others and area also more likely to say that they support him even if he's done something that upset them.

More to the point, however, is the fact that the reported support level among the base is painfully low. "More" is a relative term.
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raouldukelives Donating Member (945 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-11 01:30 PM
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18. Because he has angered neo-libs
by fighting hard against corporate greed and big business all while doing his best to legalize MJ and clean up the environment?
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-11 01:40 PM
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19. Errright.
:eyes:
Too bad this is the same Obama that has continued too amny of bu$h's policies.
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lbrtbell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-11 01:41 PM
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20. Because they don't want to admit they've been conned
Seriously, this is a guy whose cabinet included someone who called those very liberals "retards" (Rahm Emmanual), a guy who told the progressive caucus to leave the Blue Dogs alone during the health care reform debate...it hurts to know you were thrown under the bus. Much easier to delude yourself into pretending it never happened.

Obama is a neo-liberal, which is not the same as a progressive liberal.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-11 01:56 PM
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26. Actually, you're the one who's been conned.
Into believing things which are simply not true, like that Emanuel called liberals "retards." Never happened, but you wouldn't know that from the spin machine. In a strategy session with liberal groups, he referred to the idea of running ads attacking conservative Dems over not supporting HCR as "fucking retarded" because it would make it politically impossible for those people then to switch over and support the bill. But that's been conveniently ignored, since for some people accurate quotes are unimportant so long as it can be made to look bad for a Democrat.
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-11 02:23 PM
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33. And the liberals are "retards" lie get repeated again...nt
Sid
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-11 01:43 PM
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21. Because some liberals value Democrat over liberal.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-11 01:49 PM
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23. Actually, the more liberal you are, the more likely you are to approve of Obama. nt
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-11 01:53 PM
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24. That's downright laughable.
Why in the hell would a liberal be more like to approve a centrist than another liberal? Unless very drunk.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-11 01:57 PM
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27. Simple answer, Obama is a liberal.
Either we have to believe that 83% of liberal Democrats are gullible morons, OR we have to believe that a small, impossible to please faction of the party that like screaming loudly on the internet is wrong?
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-11 02:01 PM
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29. You've gone from laughable to hilarious.
The reason that liberals "approve" of Obama is because he is considered the lesser of two evils as compared to the loony toon buffoons the Republicans put forward.

But, Obama himself acknowledges being a centrist.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-11 02:05 PM
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31. The reason liberals approve of him is because he's taking the country in the right direction.
Attempting to move the goalposts for liberalism doesn't change that.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-11 02:19 PM
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32. Not according to polls which show the majority thinking it's going in the wrong direction.
What are you "goalposts" for liberalism?
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lamp_shade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-11 01:44 PM
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22. Many of "the rest" are still pissed about Kucinich dropping out.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-11 01:53 PM
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25. Because the breakdown doesn't include "progressive democrat"?
I think in the democratic party there is a some conflation of moderate and liberal democrat.


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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-11 01:58 PM
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28. No, there isn't. nt
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-11 02:02 PM
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30. The rest of what?
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-11 03:54 PM
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35. I mean "the rest of the Democrats".
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NBachers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-11 03:16 PM
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34. Beause we are free citizens of Planet Earth, not trapped in small, dark & restricted brain cavities
Edited on Sat Nov-12-11 03:16 PM by NBachers
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SomethingFishy Donating Member (552 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-11 05:36 PM
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37. Because we are given no other choice?
Were there an actual liberal I could vote for I would. The choice now is fucked over or batshit crazy. I'll take fucked over thanks.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-11 06:50 PM
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38. A person can disapprove of but still vote for a candidate.
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-11 11:58 PM
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39. Does "well, he is much better than a republican" count as approval? nt
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-11 12:11 AM
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41. i don't know, but most of the liberals are well informed about what
is going on and yet remain optimistic even when all looks dire.

They believe in the good that man can do and are also acutely aware of the damage so they aren't Pollyanna's.

Realistic with hope, is my guess.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-11 01:38 AM
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42. Pretty obvious.
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