"F--- 'em! We're happy. Lay 'em all off," - Drug Dealers Camden NJ

[RamboLiberal]

THE MEN hanging at 4th and York streets in North Camden could have passed for a SWAT team, if not for the bloodshot eyes peering out of their ski masks.

Dressed in black from head to toe, the men and a few teenagers came to life when a Honda Civic crawled through the intersection and pulled up to a curb.

"Come here, girl," one man yelled toward the passenger as she lowered the window.

Before and after their transactions, some of North Camden's many corner drug dealers were blunt about yesterday's massive police layoffs in Camden.

"F--- 'em! We're happy. Lay 'em all off," said one man who declined to be identified. "They can stop bothering us now."

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/20110119_Who_s_left_to.html

[midnight]

1. I wonder who will protect the bankers?

[RandomThoughts]

2. They want to move to mercenary police.

Social police by taxes defend everyone by law and justice. Private security only answers to the dollar.

[DBoon]

17. The second amendment allows firearms for self-defense

and since corporations are legally persons, we can expect private corporate funded militias to fill the gap

[bluedigger]

22. The cops in Cherry Hill, where they live.

Camden was abandoned to poverty long ago.

[Upton]

3. This is an example

of why it's everyone's responsibility to protect themselves and their loved ones. No matter where you live, you can't count on cops always being around to do it for you. The anti gun crowd should take note.

[RamboLiberal]

5. +1 and it willget worse IMHO

The way Repubs are pumping up the volume against taxes & public employees & their unions.

[phantom power]

11. Mass abandonment of government

Instead of fighting to improve public schooling, there is a mass-exodus to private schools, charter schools and home schooling.

Instead of fighting to restore our police and fire departments, we'll all start packing heat.

Instead of restoring our public infrastructure, we sell our freeways to well-heeled foreigners.

We've given up.
:(

[DBoon]

18. collapse of central government led to the Dark Ages

maybe it is happening again

[intheflow]

15. Police lay-offs = pro-gun rights?

What, do you live in the wild west where citizerns should have to protect themselves against marauding hordes of bandits? Talk about a false equivalency!

[badtoworse]

19. Let's hope it doesn't get to that - nt

[RamboLiberal]

30. Well what else do you think is going to happen

When response times to 911 go to crap? Or police, which is already happening, can no longer spare the manpower to take burglary reports or property crime reports?

[leveymg]

4. Enforcing drug laws was always a misuse of police resources.

In fact, the guys in ski masks would be off the street corners in a second if the idiots in elected office simply legalized, regulated, and taxed drugs like they do alcohol and tobacco.

[Renew Deal]

6. Do you support the sale of crack to grade schoolers?

[leveymg]

8. Does the word "regulate" have any meaning to you?

Of course not. But they can't buy Scotch and Marlboros, either. Nor are school kids killing each other because of age restrictions.

[Renew Deal]

23. Right. So you agree with enforcing at least some drug laws.

[superduperfarleft]

9. Where the hell did THAT come from?

:crazy:

[snooper2]

31. only if it helps them pay attention in class

[bluestateguy]

7. Cops should not be wasting their time with drug dealers anyway

That's a waste of everybody's time and money. They should not have been laid off, but rather, should have simply stopped with the War on Drugs nonsense.

[RKP5637]

13. +1, n/t

[Renew Deal]

24. Should drug dealers be permitted to sell in front of elementary schools?

What about inside of schools?

[JoeyT]

33. What about the children?!?!?!?!

I don't know what that poor strawman ever did to you, but given the beating you've handed him in this thread I'm sure he's sorry. What about teh kidz!?!?!?! isn't even an argument, it's just an appeal to emotion. And not a terribly effective one, given how easily kids get ahold of drugs with the drug war as well funded as it is and how many rights have been erased because of it. (And I don't mean a "right" to do drugs: I mean things like our right to expect to not be woken up by a SWAT team throwing a flashbang in our window in the middle of the night and shooting our dog because they wrote an address down wrong.)

When people argue that the drug war is an immoral waste of money or argue in favor of legalizing drugs, they aren't arguing that children should be allowed access to crack unless they're simultaneously insisting that laws preventing children buying cigarettes and alcohol are also wrong or wasteful. We have those and they work. Or at least they work as well or better than the war on drugs ever has or ever will at keeping drugs away from kids.

Regulation almost always works better than prohibition. We learned that about alcohol. Sure there are still alcoholics and people still drink, but there aren't turf wars over alcohol selling rights or bathtub gin spiked with god-knows-what being sold. Elementary school kids buying it isn't much of a problem either, because the stores are terrified of losing their liquor licenses. The same goes for cigarettes. The few bucks you get from that sale aren't worth the risk of huge fines, arrest, and losing a large revenue stream. The people that are immoral enough to sell to kids are weeded out quickly due to paying huge fines, being arrested, and not having a license to sell anymore. That's what would keep crack away from kids.

[Chimichurri]

27. I get your point but what about the violent turf wars?

[katnapped]

10. Nothing some overpaid contractors can't deal with!

Me thinks we have a testing ground for mercenaries (ie XE...whose motto is "shoot anything that moves--they're ALL terrorists!")

[NightWatcher]

12. The arsonists are excited too since the fire department layoffs

[reggie the dog]

14. This is good news all around

people like me will get hassled less going to buy our weed too. personally i think all of these dealers should be allowed to open up stores, but it sounds like they manage to sell outside despite the cops, now it will be easier on them and their clients....

these dealers would likely be working in a factory or some other legit work if those jobs hadnt been delocalized away in the first place

[Renew Deal]

25. Good luck with your reputable drug dealers.

Now your friendly dealer will know it's more profitable to completely rob you than to covertly sell a little product.

[Upton]

28. Nah...

a reputable dealer sells you a good product at a competitive price. That way, you keep coming back. It's a win-win all around.

[reggie the dog]

36. exactly

[reggie the dog]

29. rob us??? dealers are not immoral like thieves

thieves steal, there is a victim, dealers sell drugs to people who want them. a victim of theft is angry, someone who just bought drugs is happy. seriously the gangs keep you safe from thieves because yes, they can rob you once and get 40 dollars or what not, or they can sell you drugs they paid 20 dollars for at 40 dollars and keep you as a client and by the third time you come score they made more money off of you than they would stealing. weed is not even the same, heroin and crack clients are good for a daily profit.... but like i said were it not for delocalization these people may indeed of had legal work

[Renew Deal]

34. Dealers (and users) are criminals

And a lot of criminals will try to keep themselves out of jail. Are drug dealers immoral? I'd say they are immoral by definition.

[reggie the dog]

35. i am immoral by definition

because i have been known to sell other adults weed and hash? explain why! also in many states cannabis users are not CRIMINALS, over a dozen states make weed a fine only and in some you dont even go to court for weed, it is like a parking ticket. in alaska it is legal for personal use.


making one's self rich off of selling health insurance, or drinking water, is immoral

making ones self rich off of selling luxuries like movies, drugs, alcohol, tobacco, snack foods is not immoral.

[snooper2]

32. mine usually gives me a free beer

:)

[reggie the dog]

37. mine feeds me dinner

i bring home made cookies or cakes for his kids and he and his wife make dinner.... then we talk shop....

[reggie the dog]

16. hanging at 4th and York streets in North Camden

got that 4th and york is a candy store......crack, heroin, weed

[Warren DeMontague]

20. I'm sure prohibition agents had to find other work when that ended, too.

The drug war is a GIANT waste of $$$$$$$$.

[Historic NY]

21. Free market......should please some....

:rant:
:sarcasm:

[Chimichurri]

26. Newark gangs pass out t-shirts emblazoned w/ the date of 167 police layoffs

Cory Booker is hailed in the media as the new Barack Obama. Indeed.

http://www.wpix.com/wpix-newark-layoffs,0,4362999.story