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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-11 11:23 PM
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Oh yes another Occupy report
Edited on Fri Nov-04-11 11:36 PM by nadinbrzezinski
(Some of us don't just walk the walk even if we are REMFers, and fully admit it, ok... this comment will make sense in a minute to those who know the meaning of this)

So today was raining cats and dogs, You gotta understand, sixty and soggy in San Diego IS cold. So after getting a bulb fixed in the car went over to the sports store and got a few ponchos (all that they had, all six of them) and a couple warm hats. Then I went down there, in between down pours... and came home in one.

So today I met a couple vietnam era vets. We started talking. One of them is not just a vet, but a POW. Where does he live these days since work is scarse? On and off in the streets, with his wife. He's a medic, so he's been keeping an eye on the health and safety of the camp. We struck a long talk and he and I talked to two City College Students. They are working on a school report (and a meeting has been had, where they intend to start an occupy city college group, idealistic kids)

So they were told what OWS is about. This idea of economic justice is resonating, especially when you talk about their student debt. They listened, and mostly tried to learn.

The second vet is another Bush vet... he is staying there as well, in between a few other problems. He is also having issues finding work, seems that as a vet it is even harder to find work, Nothing personal to all civies, but apparently, from what both say, being combat vets puts a certain edge to those actually interviewing them. And they are not there for themselves, They do not expect to see these changes, they are there for their kids. Oh and there will be a march of vets on DC.

After talking to the city college kids, Heinlein and Starship troopers came to conversation and how Heinlein was not writing fiction. Also the fact that all the critical injuries the PRESS is reporting have been vets, Apparently, and I have no way to confirm this... the night of the raid one cop kicked a young female occupier in the head, and the occupier is still at ICU. Don't ask me to confirm this, I have no way... just passing it along. Legal is involved already and our lovely press (especially locally) will not go there.

Of course the living accommodations are quite spartan and the city likes it this way, yet, they are five star, compared to what the vets had during their younger years in the bush, or as a POW. More on the accommodations. The city will not let them set up tents. But in their wisdom they have allowed them to use tarps. (I laugh at their wisdom)

As to food, they are now allowing a food table... and the grub today looked pretty damn good. Between my food allergies and I know these people need it more... which means I will need to bring them some fresh fruit... no, not kidding.

No, there was no GA... kind of the weather intervened.

As I got on the trolley I struck a talk with a couple from OH. Somebody lied to them, about SD weather. She was forced to retire due to all the fun and games, and we started talking of OWS at the meta level, They are angry and were surprised I knew about SB 5. But we all realize this is one of those years, Oh and while they have never been to a local occupy, they will go visit theirs when they get home... It is spreading.

Photos as soon as el cheapo and I can have a talk. Lens cover fell off, so either I get another el cheapo or risk the better rig.

For the record I was told that those of us posting these things online and tweeting and all that are also essential... but so were the supply folks... so be it. I will wear it proudly.

Photos here

http://nadinbrzezinski.posterous.com/report-from-the-front-lines
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-11 12:02 AM
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1. K & R nt
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louslobbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-11 12:06 AM
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2. K&R n/t
Lou
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Drew Richards Donating Member (507 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-11 12:21 AM
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3. K&R keep the info coming
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-11 12:24 AM
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4. Welcome folks
I think I should hit the sack early... been a few intense days (and nights)
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-11 12:25 AM
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5. Lemme see if photo works
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-11 04:30 AM
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13. I saw that car this evening.

But I don't think I photographed it. More interested in the food table and bare feet. Then realized there is no way to download or upload pics from my Nook. Or cut and paste or...
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-11 12:25 PM
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15. To me that photo said quiet a bit of it
damn we could have been there together anad not know it.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-11 02:10 PM
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17. We unloaded during a total break in the rain.
Which was nice because my family in San Diego believes it has an umbrella but doesn't know where.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-11 02:13 PM
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18. Umbrella, what is this thing you speak off?
I have a few, I know where they are, but on purpose did not take them...took trolley and yes, got soaked.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-11 12:28 AM
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6. Thanks for the report, I hope the weather improves for them.
As far as the woman in the hospital, there were reports that night of a woman being thrown to the ground by the police, I think I mentioned it in the OP I wrote that night, as well as the 'critically injured' person, who turned out to be Scott Olsen.

The media is a disgrace, don't even expect anything from them, WE have to be the media. As you are doing, and everyone else who talks to people in RL and online. Drown them out is the only way.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-11 12:32 AM
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7. I am also documenting this
there is a feel to this that is not normal. One of those years.

Better do the dishes, seems mundane to be honest... and if I collapse I collapse.

I need to take notes on this as well. The Grapes of Wrath came to mind today, repeatedly as well.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-11 02:36 AM
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12. Yes, there is a feeling of something that is different in the air.
The whole world seems to be on the brink of something. The violence here against the protesters is becoming very frightening. And the lack of support for them from our Government, no condemnation of the attacks on Veterans either. Why? It would seem to be the natural thing to do, to condemn such criminal and cowardly acts against men and women who were sent to fight their wars.

That is inexplicable. The silence.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-11 12:53 AM
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8. Oh and this is the local report
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-11 01:08 AM
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9. Excellent, thank you very much!
Edited on Sat Nov-05-11 01:10 AM by Fire Walk With Me
(Um, what please is SB5?)

Ugh, it certainly does look miserable in your pics. Thanks for bringing them supplies and being a bud.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-11 01:11 AM
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10. Senate Bill Five
http://www.aolnews.com/2011/03/02/ohio-sb-5-the-anti-collective-bargaining-bill-explained/

Kasich attempt to take away collective bargaining from the unions.
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-11 01:57 AM
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11. Ah, that's its name. Thanks. BASTARDS...
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-11 06:20 AM
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14. A super contribution Nadin
:yourock: :hi:
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-11 12:26 PM
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16. I will need to get myself an email with this
for notes and all that today
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socialist_n_TN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-11 04:53 PM
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19. Thanks for the report nadin........
I thought that it was interesting that there will be a veterans march on DC. Remindes me of the Bonus Army days. I wonder if history will repeat RE: the outcome of that particular march.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-11 10:21 PM
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20. Funny BIL and I had a few
Dark jokes about Black Jack Pershing over soup tonight.
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Flying Dream Blues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-11 10:53 PM
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21. K&R
Edited on Sat Nov-05-11 10:55 PM by Flying Dream Blues
Great stuff as always, Nadin. Try not to collapse, though...gotta be there for the long haul! Take care of yourself...

:yourock:

Edited: typo
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