Uh Oh... The Sleeping Giant Has Woken Up

[BeFree]

The Occupy movement has awaken.

Obama's lead in and election was like a dream which caused the sleepers to have a vision of better things just around the corner.

Then, once the reality set in that Obama was not strong enough on his own accord to bring real change, the people decided to get up, stand up, and make their dream come to life.

The very idea that the abuse of power was continuing unabated is the reason which caused cause this awakening. And that is the mantra of the time: The abuse of power by the elite 1% has to end. We should all share equally the power in our governance, that is all we are asking. That is what the people are demanding.

[EC]

1. Yep

Get up, Stand up, Stand up for your rights...

[fascisthunter]

2. We the People have to take matters into our own hands

the Occupy Movement does just that!

[RKP5637]

4. Yep, that's how this country was founded, none asked pretty please and got

things done. The system has been tried and tried, but when it's corrupt not a lot gets accomplished going through the system.

[humblebum]

7. In very large part, it was the message of one single man that

solidified and articulated the reason behind the American Revolution. The message was 'Common Sense' and the man was Thomas Paine.

[RKP5637]

8. We need that period of history again. I'm wondering if a singular leader will

rise from OWS and solidify the movement. Three of my recent heroes were JFK, MLK and Harvey Milk.

[humblebum]

12. Paine was certainly not considered a leader before Common Sense,

but he spoke in a language that easily understood by almost everyone. He had only recently come to America and while many were considering how to best smooth over differences with the British, his message was absolute independence from the Crown.

[RKP5637]

18. It always intrigues me how in time one says/writes the right thing at the right time and it

galvanizes an entire populace. Lots of times many words are spoken, astute words, but they don't catch on. And then at times one becomes the catalyst for major sweeping change.

[MedleyMisty]

19. OWS is deliberately leaderless

I am on the oldest end of a generation that grew up on the internet. Well - obviously, those of us who had access to it. And as Marshall McLuhan said - the medium is the message.

Oh man, so much to talk about here - like how there is such a deep divide between those of us who hang out online and people who watch TV, because the two glowing screens may look somewhat similar, but the frame of reference and way of making meaning and way of relating to the world that they represent are exact opposites.

Those of us who grew up in internet culture aren't really into leaders. This is where Anonymous came from. If everyone is anonymous, if there are no names, then every idea is seen on its own value. You don't know who is behind the idea. You can't attach things like what clothes they're wearing or what color their skin is or what gender they are or any of that to an anonymous internet message.

I noticed in another thread that a person who is involved with their local Occupy talked about not privileging one voice over another. That does happen in internet communities with usernames, because things get attached to a username and people get internet famous and all that, and having been internet famous in the Sims community I've seen that you do get some of the same social dynamics as you do with leadership IRL. But still, even in that case - it's based on what the person produces online, not on their appearance or social status IRL or their income or any of that.

Anonymous is very much a product of the internet, and their leaderless philosophy was born out of their social experience online. Good ideas get agreement and +1s and are put into action, and bad ideas are trolled and downvoted and ignored, and a cult of personality doesn't come into it. Of course that's an ideal view of it, but yeah.

Basically - everyone has a voice, and ideas are judged by quality, not by who came up with them.

We're moving past authoritarianism and depending on a leader to tell us what to think, and it's beautiful.

It also has a tactical advantage. All three of the people you name were assassinated. Also, not having a leader confuses the hell out of the authoritarian fascists we're up against. :)

[RKP5637]

23. I hope so, I really do. I don't like a hierarchal environment because often it's

the bullies and outrageous that rise to the top, clawing and screaming over others, not always, but often. And often the best of ideas get trashed by the bullies and the like.

Yeah, that's quite true, isn't it, all three were assassinated. Your comment about Anonymous versus a leader as a focal point got me thinking about Julian Assange ... an example of a leader being targeted to be brought down by TPTB.

I guess the net/net of it all is ... in history we have focused hierarchal leaders, while with the Internet we have distributed leadership, no one leader, but all a leader ... well, something like that.

I really dislike authoritarianism. I always have thought that approach leads to very bad times in history and we have lots of examples of that.

I'm often reminded of the following, and now I can't remember who said it ... but it's time for the governments to step aside and let the people come together. To me, that's what the Internet it providing.

Thanks for your interesting/thoughtful reply!

:)

[bigmonkey]

94. Perhaps you're thinking of the quote from Pres. Eisenhower, a republican of the old school.

Here's what I found when I looked it up.

"I like to believe that people in the long run are going to do more to promote peace than our governments. Indeed, I think that people want peace so much that one of these days governments had better get out of the way and let them have it."

[RKP5637]

98. Yes, that is it!!! Thanks!!! n/t

[bleever]

26. This would make a good OP, because you make a major point

about what growing up with the internet has meant to the social equation. I never really thought about it before, and it sheds a lot of light on the shifting nature of how "authority" and "expertise" are perceived.

:thumbsup:

[Raksha]

35. True - OWS is deliberately non-hierarchical and anti-authoritarian,

because it's the vanguard of a non-hierarchal culture--in other words, DEMOCRACY (the real thing this time). I didn't think of it as being the natural outgrowth of the anonymous Internet culture, but I think you're right about that.

Re "Basically - everyone has a voice, and ideas are judged by quality, not by who came up with them.

We're moving past authoritarianism and depending on a leader to tell us what to think, and it's beautiful.

It also has a tactical advantage. All three of the people you name were assassinated. Also, not having a leader confuses the hell out of the authoritarian fascists we're up against."

[Fantastic Anarchist]

47. Brilliant post!

And yes, the movement should remain nebulous and leaderless. That's our advantage.

:toast:

[Major Hogwash]

50. It is a pointless demonstration of the expression of the self interests of those involved.

Like a flash mob.
Kids thought it was great, fun, new, and exciting.

However, it was also pointless, and was only important to those who were interested in participating in it.

[The Doctor.]

82. Huh?

Little vague there.

[Autumn]

95. Vague? Seems crystal clear

to me. That nasty 99% looking out for their self interest. Might be pointless to the 1% or republicans.:puke: How dare the mob complain look what the 1% has given them.

[certainot]

57. leaderless is harder to attack-OWS as it is is one of the few political forces/entities the last 20

years that has been able to shout over wall street's talk radio advantage.

the right wing media machine is very effective. the think tanks pay PR people big money to look for attack points then design swiftboating campaigns. with 1000 coordinated radio stations getting a free speech free ride they can distort and lie and attack all day and then fox and the mainstream can fill in in prime time and whether it takes a few days or a few weeks they can message over anything the left gains with. it's like when republicans demand details and specifics in obama's and dems plans- they do it so they they can distort them to a huge captive audience.

[RedCloud]

58. My high school English teacher quoted McLuhan at length.

I believe that this movement should NEVER list its "demands". The 99%ers have never been treated with respect such as:

May we please steal your retirement funds?
Your medicare?
Will you please fight our wars for us so we can stay alive and get rich?

Not to belabor the point but the 1%ers deserve at least a century of such indifference.

[RainbowSuperfund]

63. Well Said MedleyMisty !

Well Said MedleyMisty ! I love this:

"Those of us who grew up in internet culture aren't really into leaders. This is where Anonymous came from. If everyone is anonymous, if there are no names, then every idea is seen on its own value. "

Also if there are no leaders, Everyone is responsible for the outcome.

Early on someone told a story of a lady working in the medic tent at OWS. She knew police infiltrators because they always asked the same question,

"Who is the leader here?"
Her response was "I am"
Him, " Oh, What are you in charge of?"
Her, " Everything"
Him, " What is you title?"
Her, "God"

::):

[BrendaBrick]

70. This would make a great OP Medley Misty!

And to quote Harry S Truman: "It is amazing what you can do if you do not care who gets the credit."

[sabrina 1]

71. Excellent post, you should make it an OP.

We're moving past authoritarianism and depending on the a leader to tell us what to think, and it's beautiful

Perfectly stated!

[myrna minx]

73. Excellent post. If you haven't already, please make this an OP.

:hi:

[Gin Blossom]

80. Great observations. nt

[flying rabbit]

90. Great post! nt

[rucognizant]

99. ANd I am inthe middle of the Generation...............

before the Boomers and we didn't even have TV................Obvious;y I didn't grow up on the Internet.....................but when it came along I latched on to it.
"Basically - everyone has a voice, and ideas are judged by quality, not by who came up with them." I LOVE THAT!
I just attended a conference...& sadly was judged by my age, appearance, and their assumptions...............It was a shock after being accepted online enthusiastically for my ideas!
I DID occupy the Congressional free phone today, Re: the low income home energy program.

[Raksha]

32. It is that period of history again. There will be many leaders, not just one.

And that's as it should be. The avoidance of identifiable leadership is deliberate for a number of reasons, one of the big ones being that all three of your recent heroes along with RFK were assassinated. If any identifiable leadership emerges, I hope it doesn't happen prematurely. Once the opposition realize the movement is strong enough to survive the loss of a leader, hopefully they won't even make the attempt.

[reggie the dog]

41. and all three were gunned down by fascists

[bigmonkey]

91. I think we're better off if we need leaders less.

Too easy to blunt a movement when you can take out the leader, as it was in each of the instances you cite. I suppose you've considered that.

[RKP5637]

92. Yep, Plz see my reply #23. Thx. n/t

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=439&topic_id=2238409&mesg_id=2238898

[nadinbrzezinski]

33. I luve me some myth. (not blaming you, foundational myths...)

Anyhow Paine was one of many. In fact the committees of correspondence and others were late developments. This started cooking in several disparate movements starting in the 1740s. They ranged from land rights folks in New Jersey (Yeoman Farmers) to the brothers and slavery (which festered until the civil war), and of course the First Great Revival. As events unfolded things that should have never gone there did.

A close equivalent, it's the web it's moving faster, are the committees. Out of there you will have thinkers emerge. But common sense is part of a whole culture and not just the only one. Hell, it came late, why it summarized everything so well.

And it is a brilliant piece of political literature comming out during the first winter of the war and valley forge. But as things go, fairly late.

[humblebum]

54. I did not say that Paine was the only one. I said his contribution was

in "very large part", which it certainly was. He managed to articulate an idea that many held at that time and copies of 'Common Sense' were even used by Washington to rally the soldiers at Valley Forge. If I remember correctly, something like one copy for every four literate people in the Colonies was printed and circulated among the population. That is no myth. Many held those ideas but had not been able to express them with such simple and inspirational eloquence, i.e. John Adams.

[BeFree]

5. Happy Hunting!!

Good to see you hunting the fascists still. You are a formidable hunter, my friend. Good to have you with us.

[fascisthunter]

9. Thank You..

like wise!

:toast:

[Pigheaded]

13. I am afraid we are outmanned and outgunned

in an idealistic sense.

PH

[fascisthunter]

16. I and Many Others Know Different

and as time provides we grow larger and stronger. Enjoy.

[RagAss]

25. No...but thanks for your concern.

[kenfrequed]

48. I'm not clear what you mean.

"in an idealistic sense"

Maybe you could elaborate?

[leveymg]

66. The power of governance means exercising the powers of law and the administration of justice

When the present system fails us so completely on that, that power reverts to the people. Figuring out the details of that won't be easy, but we must start somewhere.

Occupy Wall Street. Citizens Arrests are next.

[lumberjack_jeff]

86. TPTB are beginning to realize that they're pushing the limits of "The consent of the governed" n/t

[Exultant Democracy]

3. The Sleeper Has Awaken!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jc_xGu-9Jyk&feature=related

[SixthSense]

42. dammit!

I'll never get my epic now

[sabrina 1]

6. The people had to see the results

of an election that gave the Democrats a majority in both houses of Congresss and the WH before it became clear that the whole system is broken. As long as they had hope that a change of party, putting them fully in control, would get the changes necessary, this movement was kept at bay. The few voices who tried to warn us, Ralph Nader eg, were drowned out. I confess to having been among those who thought that once we ousted the Republicans, things would change.

Now the people realize that the whole system is broken. That even a good politician if elected, cannot work within a system that has been hi-jacked.

This movement has identified the root cause of the problem. The next steps will be the hardest, figuring out how to remove the poison of Corporate money from our government and restore the idea of a true Democratic process rather than the current bought and paid for Government we have.

[RKP5637]

10. You really hit the nail on the head for me. During the Bush years I survived

thinking betters days were coming if the Democrats gained the majority in both houses of Congress and the WH. Now for sometime I've been left with an empty feeling thinking now what, we had exhausted the possibilities. And then fortunately OWS came along. That, will be the real difficulty, removing the poison of Corporate money.

[BeFree]

17. Solution to the Corp $$?

When they have spent their fortunes and get nothing in return, they will stop their wasteful spending. The only way that can happen is that we the people overwhelm their media by virtue of our word of mouth campaigning and street creds.

[RKP5637]

20. Yep, what we always have to keep in mind is there are millions and millions

of us, and this cuts across all political parties and walks of life.

[sarcasmo]

27. It's the people VS the corporation. The people have started to rise up

time to see what kind of punch the corporation throws to knock us down.

[Raksha]

36. That's what the catalyst was for me.

Re "The people had to see the results of an election that gave the Democrats a majority in both houses of Congresss and the WH before it became clear that the whole system is broken."

[Pigheaded]

11. I am a bit worried about the trash and violence

Doesn't look good to the media prawns.

PH

[BeFree]

14. Yeah

that stuff at football games is awful, they are such pigheads.

But who gives a damn what the prawns focus on if it isn't their own demise? The media's garbage is what needs to be landfilled first.

[Ron Green]

22. !!!

Well played.

[lunatica]

15. Your 'concern' is duly noted

[RKP5637]

21. One always has to be aware of highly paid provocateurs. Looking at Oakland last night I

wondered how much of that was going on. However, I don't think that's anything MSM will consider and report.

[Kaleko]

24. Prawns are underwater (like the houses of millions of US citizens).

Media pawns are the tools of world bankers who also own all the major governments.

Either way, producing violently harmful trash to mislead the people on earth doesn't make the media look good.

[sabrina 1]

37. No need to be worried. There is no violence, until the cops get

there. And a majority of the people know this. And there is no trash, another fabrication of the Corporate media. So don't worry, leave the worrying to the 1% and their goons and thugs who are trying their hardest to undermine this movement. Which only goes to show how successful it has been.

[MilesColtrane]

96. Just a quick clarification:

Prawn =







Pawn =

[butterfly77]

28. Throughout the campaign ...

Obama kept saying "WE ARE THE ONES WE ARE WAITING FOR" then as soon as he took office a lot of the so called Dems started showing who they really were "REPUBLICONS" and everytime he tried to do something he had no help from the Dems. Many Dems wanted him to be FDR,CLINTON,KENNEDY or some other figure in history and they still do.

Much of what the repubs have gotten away with is with help from the so called Dems and many of his base began asking for everything under the sun before he was even inaugurated and then became angry because they couldn't get what they wanted in the first month..

[sabrina 1]

38. Sorry, Obama himself is responsible for his own actions.

Who forced him to decide to change his position on Offshore Drilling eg? That wasn't Congress, that was Obama.

And who forced him to change his mind on Mandated Insurance? HE changed his mind on that, AFTER the election.

I could go on, but the buck stops with him on so many issues, it is not possible to blame others for his decisions any more.

[kenfrequed]

49. Evan Bayh

Basically cut the heels out from under him by forming a blue dog senate sub caucus in December before President Obama was even elected. It was both a shot over the bow and the last attempt by the Blue Dog/DLC scum to restabalize their hold on and power over the party.

I do agree that President Obama needs to take some responsibility but lets dump the lion share of the blame where it belongs. Squarely on the shoulders of the damned conserva-dems.

[leveymg]

67. Did Obama ever once shoot over the bow of the Blue Dogs or take his case to the people?

Since he took no meaningful action to battle Bayh and the other ConservaDems, it is more reasonable to believe he was actually with them, and still is. Obama must shoulder the blame, as well.

[kenfrequed]

69. No...

It was the Blue dog that shot as a warning. Yes, President Obama bears some responsibility but I want to assure that the conserva-dems get the full blame for this. President Obama will be gone in about 5 years. Evan Bayh will continue writing books long after that squeeling that the Democratic party has moved too far to the left.

[truedelphi]

88. It spoke volumes when Obama appointed Rahm Emanuel to be

His Chief of Staff. For years, the DLC had used Rahm to go to districts where a people's candidate was running, and then Rahm used his influence and his money-raising abilities to have that person defeated by A Blue Dog candidate.

I personally view Obama as being Blue Dog.

[saras]

29. DIdn't Obama say something once about making him do the right thing?

[SemperEadem]

44. exactly

He said "yes WE can", not "yes I can".

[Firebrand Gary]

30. We are the ones we've been waiting for.

[DeSwiss]

31. ''....the abuse of power was continuing unabated...''

- Precisely.


K&R



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hklqkwyISuk">''All tyranny needs to gain a foothold, is for people of good conscience to remain silent.'' ~ Thomas Jefferson.

[nadinbrzezinski]

34. Ok that is a nice mini.

:-)

[Jim_Shorts]

39. Franklin D. Roosevelt 1938, message to Congress

The first truth is that the liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than their democratic state itself. That, in its essence, is fascism—ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power.

[Fantastic Anarchist]

53. And it's not just one nation ...

Via globalization we have the "internationalization of capital" - the inverse of international socialism (many of the neocons and neoliberals are ex-Trotskyists). They've figured out how to rob the working class globally (once resources at the home nation are exhausted, or consumption decreases due to poverty). Capital can cross international boundaries and set the rules. Labor can't, and precisely because capital is global, Labor is at an extreme disadvantage. Notice that the big European powers are forcing Greece to ignore their population and their votes, because they have the money that Greece so desperately needs. Nevermind that the financial elites in those very same countries robbed the Greeks of their money playing financial games - and now that Greece is heavily in debt, the chicken has come home to roost.

Just my two cents ...

[xxqqqzme]

65. good point - money moves.

labor stays at home.

[socialist_n_TN]

87. If there were a Hell, there would be a special place

reserved for people who'd take the strategy of a lifelong champion of the working class like LD and pervert it into a tool for the owners. The owners that he despised all of his life. That's just sick.

But it does point out the need for a worldwide working class response to this.

[Enthusiast]

40. Excellent explanation for this phenomenon.

Allowing corporate rule is just ridiculous. Just look what they have done to the nation.

[catbyte]

43. To be fair, Obama always said WE are the change--not HE

[peace13]

45. Exactly!

I heard ...I was there. I make no excuses for Obama. I have felt that he needed a stronger backbone but this awakening is what was needed and although the long way around the barn, Obama did help bring the people to the streets.... around the globe actually!

[JTFrog]

46. You mean we actually have to do something?

Besides sitting on our asses all day trashing Obama and Democrats on the internet?

Whodda thunk it? :shrug:

:sarcasm:

[TBF]

51. He's right - he's in a position where he works for the powerful

it's up to us to fight back

[Duval]

59. TRUE!! And we ARE!! n/t

[UrbScotty]

85. Indeed. He himself has said he can't do it alone.

I am proud to stand with Obama and OWS!

[closeupready]

52. K&R

nt

[DallasNE]

55. Speaking Of Abuse Of Power

Just take a look at how law enforcement has behaved, or misbehaved, against this movement, especially in Oakland, CA. These are military operations. If there was an issue of safety or public health then first responders would be remiss in not moving in right away. This is not what is happening. This week here in Omaha the police evicted our small Occupy Omaha group. The eviction notice was given for Tuesday night at 10PM. Police made a recon run with 5 cruisers at around 10:30PM and decided to do nothing at that time. The group leaders said that the police would be back at a time of their choosing and that it may not happen that day. They also discussed the possibility that they would return at 4AM when everybody was asleep and then went over the plans should that happen. well, it happened exactly 24 hours later(4AM Thursday moring). The Occupy Omaha Facebook page has someone posting that bail was set at $7,500 but I can't verify that. Thanks Citizens United for opening the floodgates on corruption and abuse of power.

[Butch350]

56. So, what has changed?

You got a bunch of people roaming around with no direction or leader or goal! And winter is a comin! Just sayin.

[fascisthunter]

60. it's annoyed, informed and scared the shit out of people like you

and done much much more.... enjoy!

[coalition_unwilling]

61. The Occupy Movement gives new meaning to the phrase "Be the

change you wish to see" (in all the best senses of the words). It is truly awe-inspiring.

[stubtoe]

62. I think you got it, there. Paradigm shift.

[polichick]

64. In spite of the rhetoric, it remains to be seen whether or not this president will...

...stand with the people in meaningful ways.



Just two points, among many, that counter the idea that Pres. Obama is standing with the people:


Bankers have been fined and not sent to jail, making it necessary for state attorneys to fight the administration on this.

BP is once again drilling in the Gulf of Mexico - an outrageous slap to every American's face.

[leveymg]

68. I think we've seen who this President, indeed, stands with.

[polichick]

93. Yes, I suspect that those are his true colors - and *hope* they're not.

[defendandprotect]

72. Obama's benefiting the 1% certainly woke up the 99% -- !!!

[Uncle Joe]

74. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, BeFree.

[WiffenPoof]

75. EXACTLY!

I think that this point has been brought in different ways for a few weeks now, but it is good that your post puts it so simply and to the point.

I have been saying this for a number of months now. Obama's campaign for the Presidency was probably the best in my lifetime. It nearly had a life of its own. It wasn't simply a campaign to try and achieve the highest office in the land...it was a movement that struck a chord...a populist movement that promised to address the most fundamental concerns from the past 30 years. The planets were aligned and we, the people, were ready to take our country back. And then, as if a curtain had been pulled back, we discovered that OUR candidate was not who we thought he was.

As far as I'm concerned, the Occupy Movement is a direct result of President Obama's failure to follow through on the promises that he made. You may argue all you want on what he has accomplished and I agree that he should receive credit for a scattering of successes. Unfortunately, his efforts have not addressed the "fundamental" issues that are the centerpiece of the Occupy Movement.

Finally...we need no more evidence than a President not aggressively fighting for Democratic principles to tell us that we had no chance of getting our country back. I would rather have had our President fight and fail than not fight at all. And if you are wondering if he would have had the support he needed to be the President that he promised to be, all you have to do is look to the people "occupying" the streets today. We would have been there for him. Now, since his unwillingness or inability to set things right, the people have decided to do it themselves.

Rant over.

-P

[concord]

79. Good Rant

This is awesome:

>> Obama's campaign for the Presidency was probably the best in my lifetime. It nearly had a life of its own. It wasn't simply a campaign to try and achieve the highest office in the land...it was a movement that struck a chord...a populist movement that promised to address the most fundamental concerns from the past 30 years. The planets were aligned and we, the people, were ready to take our country back. And then, as if a curtain had been pulled back, we discovered that OUR candidate was not who we thought he was. <<

It doesn't matter any more if Obama is unwilling or unable. The fact of his election and presidency is all that was needed to ignite the change that's going on now.

[WheelWalker]

76. "Fired up and ready to go!"

[MilesColtrane]

97. "Fired up and ready to glow"?

I don't think the OWS protestors are going to go the self-immolation route soon.

[PatrynXX]

77. Key word ON HIS OWN. saddle up unlock and load...

down data down..

[Cleita]

78. Just heard about our local occupy movement on the radio. When the

authorities demanded that they leave at 10:00 p.m. last night and take their tents and stuff with them, they pitched three new large tents and more people arrived and it's cold and raining! It's early afternoon here and nobody has gone home.

[RBInMaine]

81. If the "giant" doesn't become a viable political and media force, it will be slain. Marching won't

cut the mustard forever. The corporatists don't care how much they march. Occupy the media, and occupy the voting booth.

[Ghost Dog]

83. The 1% / 99% meme or frame is being taken up and used in many places

in the world's media, I observe.

[Skittles]

84. uh, what?

Then, once the reality set in that Obama was not strong enough on his own accord to bring real change, the people decided to get up, stand up, and make their dream come to life.

a lot of people are pissed at OBAMA too

[Imajika]

89. No, not THE people - SOME people decided to get up...

There is just as many people on the other side who direct their rage at government and hate the idea of doing much of anything to help people in need. It's why this nation is so divided and has been for so long now. There is a fundamental divide in this country over whether government or corporations are more at fault for our problems. The issue just hasn't been settled yet. Yes, the party's have very different points of view and we are far better off with the Democratic party in charge - but because both party's really rely on the same group of people to finance them, they aren't radically different. Our system is designed to prevent big changes. Checks and balances are build so strongly into our system that even when the better team wins, the Democratic party, not all that much can change so we have a difficult time to really show the people our policies work. Additionally, our media is build around conflict. No matter how stupid the Republican position is, it is treated equally with rational mainstream policies.

[Bryn]

100. Kick

This is a very nice thread. Great OP and discussion by others.

[BeFree]

101. Turned out pretty good

Been away.... gawd is the venom in DU running deep these days, or what?

Have noticed out here in the real world that Occupy is doing pretty well. We are getting attacked by some serious players,so that tells me Occupy is having quite the impact.

The awakening of the people is well under way, and with the peaceful mantra and the inclusive feelings pervading, Occupy will change the world.

Thanks, and good to be here again ... for at least a little while.