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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 05:53 PM
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GRAPH: Occupy Wall St. & independents
The center right Dems here are always saying that Obama should ignore progressives to attract independents, but when it comes to Occupy Wall St, it looks like independents agree with the dirty fucking hippies, professional left, and the base of the Democratic Party (who are not right wing Democrats).

Will the Obama administration and Democrats in Congress, especially the Senate, act accordingly?

Or will they look for excuses to agree with the Republicans (or more specifically, their corporate masters) even when their positions are deeply unpopular with the vast majority of Americans?


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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 05:54 PM
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1. I am one of them silly indies
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 05:56 PM
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2. How can only 54% of Dems agree?

That number seems about 20 points low to me
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 06:20 PM
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11. Getting 54% of Democrats to agree on anything is an achievement. /nt
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Cal Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 06:23 PM
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13. Because the OWS movement is almost entirely nonpartisan
in my experience at a couple different sites, and the majority there criticize both sides of the 2 party system.

It's no surprise to me.
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Exilednight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 08:13 PM
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19. I'll answer your question with a question.
If President Obama walked out and said, "just tell me what policy you want enacted, and I will work the rest of this administration until it's either done, or my administration is over" - what policy exactly would it be?
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 05:57 PM
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3. 57% Republicans side with the uber rich
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burrowowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 08:06 PM
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18. Love your moniker
I lived for 20-years in Levallois-Perret where Rosa lived.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 05:57 PM
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4. K & frickin' R!
We're a progressive nation, for the most part. When Dems move to the right, we just give credence to the right.

Thanx yurbud. :yourock:

NGU.

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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 06:00 PM
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5. the numbers were similar on the public option for health care reform and pulling out of the Iraq War
for the last five or so years, but those didn't seem to effect our elected ''representatives'' either.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 06:07 PM
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7. I know it.
NGU.

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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-11 12:44 AM
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22. it doesn't stop the corporate wing from lying that they represent the views of most Americans
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 06:03 PM
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6. As long as they spend four out of five days fund raising they will remain bought
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TNLib Donating Member (683 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 06:11 PM
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8. They'll look for excuses to agree with Republicans.
IMHO
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 06:15 PM
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9. The illusion that independents are centrists has caused a great deal of mischief
Not only does it pull the Democratic Party to the right, but it creates the illusion that there is a vast reservoir of "moderate" solutions that the two parties could agree on.

Meanwhile, everyone who has become fed up with both parties from a progressive perspective is effectively disenfranchised.

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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 06:56 PM
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14. +1
NGU.

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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 06:17 PM
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10. The excuses to go right have seldom added up.
We've been warning that much of the frustration of the left is exactly why we are hemorrhaging independents.
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 06:22 PM
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12. Exactly!
Not only will the left feel alienated, but Democratic politicians that attempt to compromise will also bleed independents.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 11:49 PM
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21. .
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-11 01:06 PM
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24. .
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-11 09:59 PM
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26. .
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-11 12:45 AM
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23. nobody can join you when you stand for nothing
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 07:57 PM
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15. don't worry ... the "liberally-biased mainstream media" will
somehow make this out that it was all the Republicans who started this (well, all except the "violent protesters" and the overturning of trash cans) ...
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 07:58 PM
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16. 10 days ago a majority of Repubs agreed with Occupy
oh the power of Fox News
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 08:04 PM
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17. K&R
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Huey P. Long Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 09:10 PM
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20. Good graph. Why is this so self evident but to the PTB, they refuse to see?
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-11 12:36 AM
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25. Darn those Portland Trail Blazers!!
:rofl:

Couldn't pass it up...

NGU.

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