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one_voice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 03:25 PM
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RESIGN!!!!!
Edited on Thu Oct-27-11 03:35 PM by one_voice





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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 03:28 PM
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1. Now, THAT'S saying it like it is.Updated at 3:43 PM
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broiles Donating Member (41 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 03:29 PM
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2. Needs editing
Should read "We do not shoot unarmed people period.
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Kaleko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 03:35 PM
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7. Agreed.
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tkmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 05:46 PM
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18. I also concur
I understand fully why the distinction is made, but it shouldn't be. People are people.
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WheelWalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 03:29 PM
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3. Kick
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TBMASE Donating Member (322 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 03:30 PM
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4. Can't there be an investigation first?
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 04:09 PM
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11. So, you are disputing that Olsen was shot in the head by OPD?
Maybe you think there was some dude on a grassy knoll nearby? Or that Olsen did it to himself?
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TBMASE Donating Member (322 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 04:42 PM
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15. Disputing it? Not based on what I've seen
However, I believe in due process.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 11:36 PM
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22. We are asking for their resignation, not prosecuting them. They know they did wrong
whether you do or not. nm
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-11 01:39 PM
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28. You didn't see the video? Plastered all over this site and You Tube. nt
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W T F Donating Member (400 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-11 02:06 PM
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37. Oh, You mean an "Investigation" where they either find no wrong doing........
despite the video evidence to the contrary or, be docked 10 vacation days for an act of terrorism or as we call it when white people do it, "assault"
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 03:30 PM
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5. K&R!
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KILL THE WISE ONE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 03:33 PM
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6. Tell Quan to fire Jordon, then resign.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 04:02 PM
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8. The Mayor and the CIty Council are the responsible ones --
they give the cops their marching orders and they wouldn't have HAD their rubber bullets, flash bang things, tear gas, unless they had been instructed to.

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KILL THE WISE ONE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 04:04 PM
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9. a good policeman, would have refused the order to use them
Edited on Thu Oct-27-11 04:08 PM by KILL THE WISE ONE
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-11 02:56 PM
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39. A good Mayor and other leadership wouldn't have told them
to turn out in riot gear.
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 05:12 PM
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16. But a lot of cops were from outside of Oakland.
Does the Mayor and Oakland's Chief have direct authority over them?
You KNOW this will be blamed on outside cops who were there.
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-11 01:53 PM
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31. self delete
Edited on Fri Oct-28-11 01:57 PM by wryter2000
self delete. I totally missed your point.














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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-11 02:58 PM
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40. Yeah, the outside cops will be a wrench in the works, but it
ultimately (I think) would be up to Oakland's Mayor whether she said "send in reinforcements" or "send in reinforcements with riot gear and crowd controlling devices).

If she didn't want a volatile police presence, the others wouldn't have arrived ready to kick ass. Again, just my opinion on it.

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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-11 03:33 PM
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44. Those danged outside agitators... nt
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 11:37 PM
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23. The cop that shot that projectile at Scott's head is guilty. nm
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-11 02:59 PM
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42. I'm not disputing that, but if they Mayor hadn't instructed them
to even HAVE those devices on them (ready to riot) that wouldn't have occurred.
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 04:06 PM
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10. City Administrator Deanna Santana planned the police action and pulled in
Edited on Thu Oct-27-11 04:07 PM by lunatica
the police from Emeryville, San Leandro, Hayward, Union City and Fremond. She needs to be held accountable for the whole thing. Her plan was carried out by Police Chief Jordan.

I haven't been able to find a photograph of her but I read an article saying she prefers to be behind the scenes and not in front of the public. Gee! I wonder why.
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musiclawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 04:09 PM
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12. I fully expect to see many Oakland Raiders
fans in full frightening regalia , arms folded, surrounding the camp. To protect the people from the cops Purely symbolic. Watch.............
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-11 01:54 PM
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33. Raider fans don't live in Oakland, either
And if they can't get drunk, they won't be there.
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 05:57 PM
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19. Video of her here:
Edited on Thu Oct-27-11 05:59 PM by Lucinda
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTCYr4z95cU

She starts speaking about 6:50 but it's interesting to watch the intros
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 06:03 PM
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20. She also needs to be fired ASAP! - n/t
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Danascot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-11 06:46 AM
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26. Oakland City Administrator Deanna Santana
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Turn CO Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-11 09:17 AM
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27. Here are photos of her here



I agree - if she planned the actions for that evening by pulling in more officers from other cities/towns, then Deanna Santana is the name we should be discussing front and center. I assume that the police chief and mayor were in the planning sessions with her.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 04:11 PM
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13. It's not clear who was giving the orders. There were, from
what I've read, 15 units from outside Oakland brought in to fight the people.

I think we need to know who made that decision first. In fact in some of the video before the attack, some of the protesters mentioned that 'who are you' to the outside forces.

I agree people need to resign. But I would not want it be just the 'underlings' which may be the position the Oakland Police Chief holds and the Mayor. Some higher authority appears to have the opinion that the American people are the enemy and need to be controlled by a huge police force that is not their local police.

Why the riot gear eg? There definitely needs to be an investigation because firing these two won't get to the root of these policies.

Eg, are the FBI involved? Some protesters, in Baltimore eg, saw four FBI agents/employees trying to infiltrate the protesters they say. And the NYPD now works with the CIA, the FBI and Homeland Security.

The similarity of the tactics of the police means someone above them may be involved.

This is an opportunity to start asking those questions and not be satisfied with the firing of a few people if the problem is way bigger than that.
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 04:27 PM
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14. City Administrator Deanna Santana planned the police action and pulled in
the police from other cities in the Bay Area. Mayor Jean Quan specifically praised her in her FaceBook statement.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 05:34 PM
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17. Okay, thanks, I didn't know that.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 06:09 PM
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21. KICK!!!
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 11:38 PM
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24. kr
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 11:38 PM
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25. I disagree...
I think mayor Quan should give the keynote address at the DNC.

She perfectly represents the modern Democratic party.

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Bennyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-11 01:48 PM
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29. HE DID...
AKLAND -- The city with the state's highest violent crime rate is again in search of a top cop after Oakland Police Chief Anthony Batts announced his resignation Tuesday, saying a burdensome "bureaucracy" left him without enough power to fight crime and build community trust in his department.

Batts, a charismatic leader who sought to bring Oakland into step with a trend toward data-driven policing, was hired in October 2009 by then-Mayor Ron Dellums, seven months after four city police officers were gunned down. He said he took the job because of the tragedy and he quickly won over many residents.



Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/1...


http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/1...
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JamesJ Donating Member (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-11 01:49 PM
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30. I say again
This is just the beginning. The 1% have taken our country and won't give it up without a fight.
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-11 01:53 PM
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32. Some of these threads have really gone off the deep end.
Wow.
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lark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-11 02:05 PM
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36. You think it's OK to shoot unarmed people?
You clearly are on the wrong board. Free Republic may be more to your style?
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-11 01:54 PM
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34. A-freaking-men.
K&R
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lark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-11 02:01 PM
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35. How about, have you no sense of shame, Howard Jordan?
Do you think it's funny to nearly kill an unarmed man who posed absolutely no threat to you or anyone? Are you even human, do you have any feelings of remorse at all?
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-11 02:17 PM
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38. When we imprison our soldiers.....
...for exposing corruption and heinous violations of our own and international laws without a trial, -- then it's only a small step to shooting our own soldiers in the head. When we'll assassinate a US citizen and his 16 year-old son without any due process -- then it's only another small step to shooting our own soldiers in the head.

- Clearly the police chief is taking his clues from on-high........

K&R








''All tyranny needs to gain a foothold, is for people of good conscience to remain silent.'' ~ Thomas Jefferson.

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Arctic Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-11 02:58 PM
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41. K&R
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MissDeeds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-11 03:19 PM
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43. Could not agree more
I hope there is a petition circulating to drive them from office.

K&R
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