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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 02:34 PM
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MARINES TO OAKLAND POLICE: 'You Did This To My Brother'
Edited on Thu Oct-27-11 02:36 PM by G_j
http://www.businessinsider.com/marine-to-police-you-did...

MARINES TO OAKLAND POLICE: 'You Did This To My Brother'
Robert Johnson and Linette Lopez | Oct. 27, 2011, 4:55 AM | 171,733 | 238

Marines around the world are outraged by the injuries inflicted by police on Scott Olsen at Tuesday's Occupy Oakland protests. Olsen is in a medically-induced coma after getting hit in the head by a police projectile.

Taken from the Reddit thread "How I feel, as a United States Marine, about what occurred in Oakland." http://www.reddit.com/r/occupywallstreet/comments/lqjx2... /

"Fellow veteran here as well. That's OUR fucking brother. I didn't stomp around in the shit to come home and watch my brothers spit on like this."


This man is not alone. In the five hours since the thread went up there have been over 600 comments.


Dear Mr. Johnson,

My name is Jay C Gentile, and I'm the man in the picture on BI's front page. I'm sure you're a busy man so I'll try to keep my words to a minimum. I was wondering if you, as a journalist, and with the resources at your disposal, could tell me a reliable place where I can find updates about Scott Olsen's condition. "Occupy Wallstreet" movement aside, Marines share a bond that escapes the boundaries of the English language. I'd like to be able to "check up" on this young man, my brother, and keep up with his condition.

Thank you very much,

Semper Fidelis
-Jay C. Gentile


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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 02:49 PM
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1. I'm not a vet, or any kind of militarist, but I know that...
You don't want the US Marines after your ass! :patriot:


--imm
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Segami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 03:07 PM
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2. Dupe post.
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PurgedVoter Donating Member (753 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 03:08 PM
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3. K&R
It was at 17 after my rec it jumped to 20. This kind of hit us where we live. I hope and pray Scott comes out of this fine, and the Oakland Police do right by him and take care of ALL expenses and inconveniences that Scott suffers.

Many of us have noticed through the years that the laws often bend a bit when police are taking care of their own. I think Oakland Police need to seriously consider the ongoing impression that they make from this point forward. A cover up might not be the correct choice in this matter. Being clear about who ordered what might be a better choice.
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Eddie Haskell Donating Member (817 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 03:29 PM
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4. Maybe it's time for the Marines to come home and fight
our own war for Democracy.
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Lizzie Poppet Donating Member (255 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-11 01:05 AM
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12. Yes...it does, doesn't it.
Yet another "tipping point" moment...with more and more people coming to the realization that this is more likely to end in violent, bloody revolution than it is in non-violent change. While that fills me with sadness and a degree of fear, I am reluctantly coming to the conclusion that our commitment to non-violence means that the PTB understand they can simply wait us out.

When the cops finally kill a protester, all bets are off.
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Eddie Haskell Donating Member (817 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-11 03:38 PM
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15. The cops need to realize we're on their side or
all bets are off.
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 03:54 PM
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5. Sure enough, at 3:30 in the video Scott Olsen is shown standing peacefully
at the front line next to a Navy veteran, protecting the protesters from the armed policemen -- just moments before they shot him.

The mayor showed the PTB's cards when she attempted to portray the protesters as "violent", then backtracking on their stance of aggression against the protesters by announcing that "nonviolent" protesters will be allowed to remain. The protesters have been peaceful. It has been stressed & openly repeated in the presence of police standing by that nonviolence is their mantra -- until the police used "chemical agents" (the term used by the officer when warning the protesters), along with rubber bullets & beanbag bullets that caused golfball-sized welts. The PTB are wanting the police to incite violence in order to cause the protesters to fight back so that the PTB can destroy their credibility & legitimate complaints.

Thank goodness for modern technology which is getting out the truth. Funny thing is, the PTB have become so accustomed to distorting the truth in their favor that they haven't been able to step off their propagandic soapbox to adjust to this new technology. Their lies are in plain view for the world to see -- including those countries that the U.S. has condemned for abusing their people in the same manner.
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 04:53 PM
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7. Sousveillance .. It 's a new paradigm..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sousveillance

David Brin is a major advocate of sousveillance in "The Transparent Society"..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Transparent_Society
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 08:44 PM
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8. The "power equalizer".
Brin argues that it will be good for society if the powers of surveillance are shared with the citizenry, allowing "sousveillance" or "viewing from below," enabling the public to watch the watchers. According to Brin, this only continues the same trend promoted by Adam Smith, John Locke, the US Constitutionalists and the western enlightenment, who held that any elite (whether commercial, governmental, or aristocratic) should experience constraints upon its power. And there is no power-equalizer greater than knowledge.


Interesting -- thanks, Fumesucker.

:thumbsup:
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-11 12:39 AM
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11.  guess they weren't paying attention to recent events
They should have asked Bloomberg, YouTube is not your friend if you are going to lie.
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 04:49 PM
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6. Kick!
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 09:56 PM
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9. From the ones who served to the ones who had hemmeroids.
Thanks Rush, you went too fucking far. Finally.
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-11 12:27 AM
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10. I had bookmarked this earlier so that I could read the links later.
Edited on Fri Oct-28-11 12:31 AM by pacalo
The reddit.com link you provided that gave a forum to Marines (as well as to other servicemen) was a great read. As one would expect, they are stirred up on behalf of Scott. Whether they've known it all along or have suddenly realized what's been going on, they are well-informed on the decay of democracy & on the hypocrisy & lies, which includes Fox News.

Very good read.

/edited to include excerpt:

captchasarehard 234 points235 points 22 hours ago: People are more pissed because at one point in his life, this man wrote the people of the United States a blank check, for any amount up to and including his life, and this is what he gets in return. That's why its a big deal that they did this to one of our Marines.


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reggie the dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-11 05:55 AM
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13. great comment from reddit
"As a fellow (Active Duty) vet as well, though never a Marine. I can't stand this hypocritical stance that the elected officials are taking this horrible event. Though I was never a Marine, he is a brother in arms. As a family, we must stand together. I do recall that when I took my oath of enlistment that no where did it say that I will protect corporate greed. I know for one, if shit gets out of hand, I stand with the people and not the corporate lackeys."
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-11 07:30 AM
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14. IMO, The hospital should get Olsen's family's permission to disclose
non-detailed information, just simple progress reports. This man is beloved.
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