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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 01:21 PM
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This Video Shows Protester Scott Olsen Moments Before He Was Injured
Edited on Thu Oct-27-11 01:46 PM by Hissyspit
http://www.businessinsider.com/this-video-shows-scott-o...

This Video Shows Protester Scott Olsen Moments Before He Was Injured By The Oakland Police

Robert Johnson and Linette Lopez | Oct. 27, 2011, 5:22 AM | 28,742 | 37

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The following video was sent to us by the the aunt of the man who shot the footage, Raleigh Latham. Latham filmed Tuesday's action throughout the course of the day and stood on the front lines with protesters when they confronted police.

Scott Olsen is seen here on the right, moments before he suffered his head injury and those who rushed to his aid were assaulted by police.

Scott Olsen remains in critical condition. Officials at Highland Hospital in Oakland are refusing comment on Olsen's condition at this time and the media is being instructed to call back at 8:30 PDT. We will update his condition then.



VIDEO and MORE AT LINK ABOVE

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Imajika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 01:24 PM
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1. The Navy guy is a protester?
I am pretty sure no military personnel are allowed to protest in uniform.

Olsen is fine since he is just wearing a camo hat and jacket, but the navy guy looks like he is in full service uniform. Perhaps he is just dressed up and not really in the service?
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bayareamike Donating Member (79 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 01:26 PM
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2. A pretty brave one at that.
He was one of the final people who stood up to the oncoming swarm of police. There are a few videos of it.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 01:30 PM
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3. I believe the rules are different if you are no longer active duty, covered by MCC.
I'm not expert. ( also active duty can risk sanction, sacrifice their careers as an act of civil disobedience.)
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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 01:41 PM
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7. keep up the great work reporting the truth Mr spit!
:kick: :thumbsup:
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haele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 02:58 PM
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15. The sailor may also be a vet, not active duty.
United States code 10 USC, Subtitle A, Part II, Chapter 45, Sections 772 discusses the wearing of a uniform by persons not on active duty.
..... (exceptions to the ban on wearing the uniform)
(d) A person who is discharged honorably or under honorable conditions from the Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marine Corps may wear his uniform while going from the place of discharge to his home, within three months after his discharge.

(e) A person not on active duty who served honorably in time of war in the Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marine Corps may bear the title, and, when authorized by regulations prescribed by the President, wear the uniform, of the highest grade held by him during that war.

NAVPERS 15665I (Navy Uniform Regulations) section 10, paragraph 61002 on Reserve/Retired personnel says:
UNIFORMS FOR RETIRED PERSONNEL

1. GENERAL. Retired officers and enlisted personnel,who are not on active duty, may wear the uniform, insignia, and qualifications corresponding to the rank or rating indicated on the retired list.

2. THE UNIFORM IS AUTHORIZED. Retired personnel may wear uniforms at ceremonies or official functions when the dignity of the occasion and good taste dictate. Wearing a uniform is appropriate for memorial services, weddings, funerals, balls, patriotic or military parades, ceremonies in which any active or reserve United States military unit is participating, and meetings or functions of military associations.

(Veterans for Peace might be considered a military association, as IAVA is. And I have seen an increase of veterans on talking heads shows that were representing some sort of veteran's or military rights organization that were also wearing their uniforms on all sides of the spectrum.)

3. THE UNIFORM IS NOT AUTHORIZED. Retired personnel are prohibited from wearing the uniform in connection with personal enterprises, business activities, or while attending or participating in any demonstration, assembly or activity for the purpose of furthering personal or partisan views on political, social, economic, or religious issues.

My main question to those who would complain about this Fire Controlman 2nd Class who was wearing his uniform at the demo...

Is the OWA a "partisan" or personal demonstration? I've seen evidence that pretty much all walks of the 99% and a few of the 1% are participating in OWA - the movement seems to be inclusive rather than exclusionary (unlike the Tea Party and other Freeper type events) so I'd venture to quibble - and so does my boss, who is a retired Marine officer and a lawyer - that it's not really considered partisan. As for personal - the veterans are not profiting off OWA. And the sailor was carrying a Constitution and a Flag - both of which he had sworn to serve.

If he was active duty on leave, or a reservist, there might be repercussions from his command. However, if he was a civilian, most police could care less if he wore his uniform or not. They're more interested if they could bust him for hanging out with the long-haired hippies...

Haele

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SusanaMontana41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 01:31 PM
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4. Great link, Hissy. Now I have to puke
because my country makes me sick ...
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 01:32 PM
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5. k&r nt
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 01:36 PM
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6. Oakland needs a massive change-up. Thanks for the post.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 01:46 PM
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8. The dove on his shirt which was visible after he was attacked
made those photos especially sad to me. He and the other Veterans for Peace went to stand with the people. And an army of cops working for Multi-National Corporations were waiting. That last projectile thrown at the people who ran back to help him, shows how these are not civilian cops who care about 'the health and welfare of the people'. They act more like a military unit facing the enemy. And to the Global Corps the people of the world ARE the enemy.

Does anyone know who those cops are btw? There were reports that they were 'brought in' from other places? But since they are all covered up, no one knows who they are. Shouldn't there be a list of names etc. somewhere, and shouldn't we start demanding that information as they are acting like an invading force at this point?
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 02:32 PM
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14. I was thinking the same thing. Who are these cops?
Because a lot of them don't look anything like police officers. In fact some of them look like they were just released from prison themselves.
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thecrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 01:47 PM
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9. The cop shooting the rifle?
Hey they *said* they didn't use rubber bullets.

This is a great video archive of the confrontation.

Thanks for posting!
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redgiant Donating Member (262 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 02:00 PM
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10. It's a shotgun prob shooting bean bag rounds n/t
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redgiant Donating Member (262 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 02:03 PM
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11. Throwing objects/gas back at cops not good idea
Then it no longer is a nonviolent resistance.
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Capitalocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 02:06 PM
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12. When you're surrounded by cops
where else are you going to throw it? It will injure someone if it goes off next to them. At least the cops have armor.
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redgiant Donating Member (262 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 03:20 PM
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17. Picking up a gas grenade is not smart...
They don't "explode," but I wouldn't want to be holding one in my hand if it goes off. If you watch the video carefully, you'll see somebody pick one up, it starts to fizz, and he throws it away to land at the feet of other protesters. The safest thing to do is to kick it away if you must, or, better still, leave the area before the start throwing them in your direction.
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Evasporque Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 02:10 PM
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13. Honey Badger Squad!
Edited on Thu Oct-27-11 02:11 PM by Evasporque
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 03:04 PM
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16. It's clearly Scott Olsen's fault
If he didn't want to get shot in the head, he shouldn't have brought it to the protest. Refudiate that, you hippies!
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 05:10 PM
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18. Kick nt
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