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itsallhappening Donating Member (578 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 12:20 PM
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Tired of working hard to provide for people who don't provide for themselves.
Hmmm.


Posted: 1:43 AM, October 27, 2011

The Occupy Wall Street volunteer kitchen staff launched a counter revolution yesterday -- because theyre angry about working 18-hour days to provide food for professional homeless people and ex-cons masquerading as protesters.

For three days beginning tomorrow, the cooks will serve only brown rice and other spartan grub instead of the usual menu of organic chicken and vegetables, spaghetti bolognese, and roasted beet and sheeps-milk-cheese salad.

We need to limit the amount of food were putting out to curb the influx of derelicts, said Rafael Moreno, a kitchen volunteer.

A security volunteer added that the cooks felt overworked and underappreciated.

more:
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/zuccotti_h...

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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 12:21 PM
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1. Headline could have been written about my brother!
The freeloading bastard
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 12:23 PM
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2. This shows that some are in it for the wrong reasons.
nt.
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DonCoquixote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 12:26 PM
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7. maybe
But if you are homeless, is it reasonable to think that you might get a meal? granted, said homeless could also volunteer in the kitchens.

As far as those who get paid without work, I count the CEOS. Even if you work 12 hour days, nothing you do justifies being paid the equivalent of 100 of your workers.
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EOTE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 12:35 PM
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18. Closer to 500 of your workers, actually.
Most European countries have a more equitable distribution of wealth where their CEOs "only" make around 100x their average employee. It's far less equal here.
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 12:35 PM
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19. Feeding the homeless is part of the People's Kitchen mission statement. The article is bullshit.
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 12:39 PM
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25. Yes, New York Post do practice mischievous journalism
hell they're owned by News Corp whose Chairman is Rupert Murdoch. :puke:

Should have known.
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 12:27 PM
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8. as if anyone needs the New York Post to tell us that
I think every thinking person realizes the movement is made up of human beings, and there of course will be internal conflicts. It will be trivial for RW rags like the NY Post to selectively report on these problems to put the movement in a bad light. I don't see the purpose of taking such reports seriously or drawing conclusions from them.
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 12:36 PM
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21. Agreed
but just in case there are those who are complaining about helping the protesters,
then imo they should be escorted out conveniently. This is not a game and yes New
York post is known for demagoguery.
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The Wielding Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 12:38 PM
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24. Absolutely. This seems opposite of how the majority of OWS'ers feel.
It is another wedge that is being used to unsteady their resolve. It smells wrong. Part of this story seems to be missing.
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 12:24 PM
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3. Grilled "cheese" sandwiches on white "bread"..
With pickle slice of course..
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DonCoquixote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 12:24 PM
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4. Hmmm
Not that there are not some homeless people trying to score food (the nerve of them, poor eating at a protest for the poor), not that the kitchen staff is NOT overworked (Hey Whole foods and Ben and Jerrys, time to earn your liberal stripes and donate food) but let us not forget the NYP is murdoch, and that his friends will try to divide the movement from within.
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 01:09 PM
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37. This sign (from Occupy Los Angeles) says it best:
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 12:24 PM
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5. Oh, look, it's from the New York Post!
And if you can't trust their journalism, who can you trust?
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 12:25 PM
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6. Isn't the Post a Murdoch rag?
I'm shocked that they found something negative to write about OWS, just shocked I tell you.

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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 12:27 PM
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9. Why can't someone be an ex-con AND a protester?
:shrug:
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 12:27 PM
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10. More trash from Rupert Mudoch about those filthy, dirty fat hippies . . .
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 12:28 PM
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11. hey OP, a couple of questions
what does "hmmm" mean?

why did you post this?

What do you think of the story?
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 12:29 PM
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15. Crickets . . .
It's like cow-pie bingo - dump a load, then just walk away.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 12:38 PM
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23. Good questions, all.
:thumbsup:
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 01:10 PM
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39. +1,000,000,000 x 1,000,000,000 - n/t
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 01:11 PM
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41. +1,000,000,000 x 1,000,000,000 - n/t
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 12:28 PM
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12. Do you consider the NY Post a news source? Hmmm indeed.
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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 12:28 PM
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13. The NY Post is about as credible as Fox news
No wonder they are pushing this angle.
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Arctic Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 12:29 PM
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14. What is a "professional homeless" and how do they know they are "ex-cons"?
More attempts to slander they movement.

Another nice attempt at trying to label them as "elitist" because they serve heelthy food.


Their attacks are almost comical.
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backtoblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 12:30 PM
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16. Then they need to rotate shifts...
I'm sure there would be more than enough people willing to step in and help out feeding hungry people. Isn't that part of what the movement is all about---helping out those who need it?
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Change has come Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-11 12:48 AM
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55. This story is from Rupert Murdoch.
This thread was started to "divide and conquer".
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 12:34 PM
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17. Hmmm.... is right. More intentional wedge-driving. Unrec for the OP. nt
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Erose999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 12:35 PM
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20. Murdock's NY Post isn't even fit for use as toilet paper. Its already covered in shit when it .

leaves the printing press.
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Nye Bevan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 12:37 PM
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22. If I was a homeless person in New York
I would get my ass to Zuccotti Park quicker than you can say "roasted beet salad". And who could blame me? Where else could I get free food of that quality?
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 12:47 PM
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26. Oh, but the government takes care of all poor people. That's what the Republics tell us. nt
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 12:49 PM
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27. Doesn't this belong on a Koch Brother teabagger forum? nt
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 12:52 PM
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28. Sandwiches & bottled water seems to be the way to go
the whole "gourmet food" thing always seemed out of place to me :) and of course that was what interested the media too....instead of why the people are so irritated.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 12:53 PM
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29. Need to know more about the NY Post? Sure, you do. Owned by Murdoch.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_Post

"The New York Post is the 13th-oldest newspaper published in the United States and is generally acknowledged as the oldest to have been published continuously as a daily, although as is the case with most other papers its publication has been periodically interrupted by labor actions.<2> Since 1993, it has been owned by media mogul Rupert Murdoch's News Corporation, which had owned it previously from 1976 to 1988. It is the seventh-largest newspaper in the U.S. by circulation.<3> Its editorial offices are located at 1211 Avenue of the Americas, in New York City, New York. The Post is known for its sensationalist headlines."
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ChoppinBroccoli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 12:55 PM
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30. I SO Agree With This Sentiment...................
.................that I'm kicking my children (ages 5, 4, and 18 months--and not a one of them has ever worked a day in his LIFE!!!) out into the street. Why should I have to spend my hard-earned money and time caring for 3 deadbeats who refuse to care for themselves? I say, "F 'em." You know, just like it says on the base of the Statue of Liberty. Being a right-wing mouth-breather, I'm not exactly sure what it says on the Statue of Liberty, but I'm sure it's something about, "Don't come here lookin' fer no free handout, ya bums."
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 12:55 PM
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31. Ignore the hit-and-run post from Murdoch's rag.
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renate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 12:59 PM
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32. "derelicts" ??????
:wow:

What is this, 1890? Who uses the word "derelicts" about human beings?
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 01:01 PM
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33. NY Post BS
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TaupeDem Donating Member (42 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 01:03 PM
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34. Ex Cons are also flooding OWS
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/grubby_low...

Newly sprung ex-cons and vagrants rousted from other parks are crashing the Occupy Wall Street protest, where gourmet meals are free and boozy, drugfueled parties are on tap, the movements leaders griped yesterday.

Theyre telling people who leave prison to go to Zuccotti Park, lamented Daniel Zetah, a leader of the OWS community-relations group.

Volunteer Lauren Digioia, 26, said, We have drug dealing going on here, gang activity, public intoxication. There are a lot of instigators. There are a lot of vultures.

Everyone knows we give out free food and sleeping bags, and its a perfect opportunity for squatters.






We can't really complain though and it pisses me off because if we do complain the repukes will just throw it in our faces that we're being selective in who we choose to care for.
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 01:16 PM
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42. Funny. No such person as Daniel Zetah listed as a member of the Community Relations
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TaupeDem Donating Member (42 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 02:25 PM
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48. He's listed at The Huffington Post as a Board Member
Scroll down about halfway, they list several Board Members

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/26/occupy-wall-st...

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TygrBright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 01:04 PM
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35. Keep trying, Roopie. Ain't gonna work, but keep trying. n/t
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 01:05 PM
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36. I wish DU would simply ban any purported articles from
Murdoch propaganda rags.

I suppose that's wishing for a bit much.
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 01:09 PM
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38. The usual menu of chateaubriand and truffle risotto and arugula will be replaced....
...with nutraloaf and swampwater.

:)
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 01:11 PM
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40. Someone posted this yesterday - garbage - it's the New York Post!!!
Edited on Thu Oct-27-11 01:13 PM by Avalux
Murdoch rag that wants people to think OWS is full of less than desireable people so that:

1.) People will be afraid to show up
2.) The movement isn't taken seriously

We should know this though, shouldn't we??
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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 01:21 PM
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43. What?! No arugula on the menu?
This is an outrage that shall not stand.
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ceile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 01:27 PM
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44. Is this from the Onion?
"For three days beginning tomorrow, the cooks will serve only brown rice and other spartan grub instead of the usual menu of organic chicken and vegetables, spaghetti bolognese, and roasted beet and sheeps-milk-cheese salad."


:rofl:
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Aerows Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 01:32 PM
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45. It's the NY Post reporting this!
That in itself makes this story suspect, not to mention a supposed "community relations leader" isn't even listed as on the community relations group.

This story smells to high heaven, and I don't believe a word of it.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 01:37 PM
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46. The post is going hard at the propaganda
To be fair yes the invisible have come. But this is a post story and follows a theme.
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SwampG8r Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 01:40 PM
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47. cooks are always feeling
overworked and underappreciated
i know from my own experience
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 02:28 PM
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49. Not me, but hubby tells me regularly how much he loves my cooking
And the conures dance at meal time.
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 02:29 PM
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50. uh oh. class warfare between the 99%!
;-)
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 11:55 PM
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51. IF this is actually happening, then the solution is simple: no food distribution, everyone
provide for themselves. No handing out sleeping bags or anything else. The people who are genuinely protesting will do it without any freebies. I've said before and I'll say it again: just do this during the day, or the evening--there is no need to permanently camp out.
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999998th word Donating Member (555 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-11 12:21 AM
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53. Forget something ? don't worry, happens to all of us.
:sarcasm: -tag ,hope that helped. Someone might have thought you really meant that.
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Change has come Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-11 12:53 AM
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56. So, you believe the new york post?
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-11 09:23 AM
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60. You might have missed the all-caps-for-emphasis IF in my subject line.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-11 01:00 AM
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59. "camping out"
...is the whole point of the Occupation.

Read this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonus_Army
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-11 09:31 AM
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61. I'd heard about that. That said, these are different times, and this movement
isn't looking for a very tangible and concrete thing such as back-pay owed to them. I think they would have more staying power if they only were out there morning thru evening, (not overnight), at least through the winter. I expect that it will happen that way anyway in the north, because of unrelenting bitter cold. I don't think it weakens the effort one bit.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-11 12:02 AM
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52. And the New York Post certainly has a reputation for its accurate reporting
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-11 12:40 AM
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54. What thee fuck?
What is the deal with DUers posting all these horrid Murdoch rag stories on DU?
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Change has come Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-11 12:56 AM
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57. and believing this shit.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-11 01:00 AM
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58. NY Post is toilet paper.
Anything to be like their big brother.
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