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one_voice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 10:09 AM
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I wish I knew the story behind this picture...
I found it on facebook...it was on some asshole's profile..but the picture is great...

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FSogol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 10:10 AM
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1. Caption: You go Girl!
:thumbsup:
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one_voice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 10:21 AM
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3. That's the first thing I thought...
too. It's an awesome picture. I bet it has a great story.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 10:13 AM
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2. That is different! The guy reminds me of Schultz (I know nothing, I see nothing) NT
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 10:25 AM
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4. It looks like it was taken during the Civil Right era.
Back when skin color determined how equal you were. That was before money took its place.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 10:34 AM
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5. I gotta say I love that pic! nt
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NBachers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 11:00 AM
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6. That's great! 98 pounds of dynamite
This guy thought he had an easy target 'till she ripped his face off
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ben_thayer Donating Member (344 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 11:02 AM
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7. OOOOWeeee! She's SO
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 12:43 PM
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8. I checked Google Images -- and the picture is getting around
But nobody identifies where it came from.

(To do a reverse image search through Google Images, first get the URL for the image. In Firefox, you do this by right-clicking on the image and then clicking on "Copy Image Location." Then go to Google Images, click on the little camera icon at the right of the search window, and paste the URL in the popup. Google will display images that are the same or in some way similar.)

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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 12:44 PM
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9. hate to find out what happened next.
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Drew Richards Donating Member (507 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 01:11 PM
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10. I believe I remember that photo and it is from the selma riots.
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Drew Richards Donating Member (507 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 03:01 PM
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42. and yes what happened next was she got beat the ^&*( out of and hauled off to jail
for some reason I think her name was maryanne johnson but it has been a looooong time sorry kinda senile at this point and pain medication doesn't help long term memory :)
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 01:22 PM
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11. The right hand looks shopped to me...
:shrug:
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 01:26 PM
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14. ELA doesn't turn up anything unusual- I think that kitty's just got some long paws!
Here. I could be wrong, though. ELA and I are far from perfect.

But you'd think if this was a 'shop job they wouldn't have been too careful.

PB
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 01:31 PM
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19. You could be right....
...
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 01:23 PM
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12. Ripping off the human mask to reveal the monster beneath.
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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 01:24 PM
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13. I find it disturbing
Violence is violence, no matter who is delivering it. Non-violence on BOTH sides.
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newspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 01:26 PM
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15. yeah, violence is violence.
You know what happened to some of the freedom riders back then? Dead is dead.
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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 02:03 PM
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29. You sure are making a lot of assumptions here.
I guess we see what we will see. To me, she looks like the aggressor and I don't see any signs of him assaulting her first.

And some of the freedom riders did wind up killed because of the non-violent approach of the movement. They were told never to strike first, even in the face of overwhelming aggression.

They want you to hit them first. It then provides cover for their use of force.
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 01:30 PM
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17. It is, and I agree. But a kick to a would-be rapist's balls (for instance) don't strike me the...
...same way as the rape. They're both, technically, violence. Agreed. But nothing exists in a contextual vacuum.

PB
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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 01:57 PM
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23. There is no context for this photo
But I guess we should all assume something not in evidence.

I never said people shouldn't defend themselves, but there are no visible signs of an altercation on the woman. We don't know anything about this particular incident. Maybe it's like a Rorschach test.
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 02:02 PM
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28. Do you see what's in the man's right hand & what the woman is grabbing at as her purse slides...
...down her arm?

PB
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 02:04 PM
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30. I see an apparently cylindrical object that seems to be in the grip of both people
Not possible to say what it is or what was happening to it.
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 02:07 PM
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32. No, take another look. Who's wielding that baton-like object? Be honest.nt
PB
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 02:11 PM
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34. Impossible to tell. For all I know she was wielding it and he was taking it from her.
Maybe he was "wielding" it, or maybe simply holding it.

There is not enough information in the image to tell.

And the whole thing could simply be a fake.
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 02:13 PM
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35. Look at how each of them are gripping it. I take it you've not seen "12 angry men"?nt
PB
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 02:38 PM
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38. 12 Angry Men is a motion picture of high technical quality
This is a shitty still photo that could easily be staged or photoshopped, or worse. It's not possible from the information presented here to determine what was actually happening.
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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 02:10 PM
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33. And how do you know he was trying to hit her?
He could have been holding it and she grabbed it to prevent him from hitting her as she struck him. That's just as plausible as anything else. I've gone to protests and the cops all hold batons, but I can't just grab one and say he was planning to use it on me.

Frankly, I have no idea what's really going on, which is what I said all along. I just won't applaud an ambiguous photo depicting violence. I guess I am just a bad liberal and an apologist for authority.
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 02:23 PM
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37. This is just a friendly chat about what can reasonably be deduced from a simple picture.
No reason to throw your hands in the air over and storm away over it.

There are two figures, one dressed in combat gear one in civilian clothing. The figure in combat gear is holding a baton or baton-like item with a grip for swinging while the civilian is gripping it with the weakest possible grip- a defensive one. Furthermore, she is gripping the object with the arm her purse is on and it's sliding down her arm- hardly an advantageous position either by the hand she's using (statistically, her "off" hand) and using an arm which has a purse sliding down it.

Throughout our conversation on the matter you've made statements or insinuations as you do above: "That's just as plausible as anything else."

Plausible is generally understood to mean "Seeming reasonable or probable."

I'm not sure what word you should be using but "plausible" probably isn't it.

PB
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 02:40 PM
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40. It could be two drunks in costume hamming it up at a Halloween party
Edited on Thu Oct-27-11 02:41 PM by slackmaster
For all we know.

Rosa Parks vs. Sergeant Schultz. But in real life they're happily married. Both are schoolteachers at a Christian academy.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 01:29 PM
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16. Interesting how "her" wrist and hand are lighter than her forearm......
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 02:05 PM
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31. That could be a result of reciprocity failure from a flash
Or not.
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NeedleCast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 01:30 PM
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18. The Assumptions On This Thread Are Interesting
Without having any background information on the story many posters so far seem to think it's perfectly acceptable to punch a dude in the beak. After all, she's a minority female and he appears to be a while, male member of the authoritarian establishment.

Maybe I'm just being devil's advocate.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 01:32 PM
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20. I see a woman assaulting a man
What do you see, one_voice?
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one_voice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 01:38 PM
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21. Obviously I see the same thing you see...
a woman punching a man.

I said I wanted the story behind the picture. Which is a little different than what you asked me.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 02:01 PM
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27. Your only comment was that you thought the picture was "great"
I see an image of shitty technical quality and obviously questionable veracity, with no context other than it came from Facebook.

I don't think it's great in any sense of the word. It's a lousy picture portraying an act of indeterminable moral value.
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one_voice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 02:13 PM
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36. That was not my only comment...
I guess you didn't read the SUBJECT LINE...in which I clearly stated..."I wish I knew the story behind this picture"

You're entitled to your opinion. I don't agree with you. I personally would like to know the story before I trash something. For all you know she was defending her child.


Have a nice day.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 02:39 PM
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39. For all I know the man and the woman might be BFFs posing for a stupid photo
That's how little we know about it.
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one_voice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 02:42 PM
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41. True...
which is why I said I wish I knew the story behind the picture.

Don't know why we had to have this dance just to go back to my original statement. Oh, that's right, it was so you could trash a picture you know nothing about...

Whatever....
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 03:43 PM
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43. I've been an amateur photographer for more than 50 years.
I know a shitty photo when I see one.
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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 01:53 PM
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22. Delete
Edited on Thu Oct-27-11 01:59 PM by Contrary1
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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 01:59 PM
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24. Can't follow the logic
Please help me.
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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 02:00 PM
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26. I was deleting while you posted your reply...
mainly because I thought it over, and came up with the same conclusion you did. :hi:
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 01:59 PM
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25. Tineye image search engine says the same image is at the second link...
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