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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 08:44 AM
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TEARS STREAM AS CITY COUNCIL UNANIMOUSLY AGREES ‘OCCUPY TENTS ARE A FORM OF SPEECH’
Source: Occupy OC

Late last night after a 5 and-a-half hour marathon city council meeting,
in which 72 speakers took the floor to express the need for the Occupy OC
Tent Village to be accepted as a form of free speech, the city council
passed an emergency motion to add the needs of “The 99%” to their official
agenda. This was a feat which, according to one more conservative
Councilman, he had never seen in 7 years of service.

The council members each spoke in turn to the civility, articulateness and
peaceful process represented by the Irvine Occupation at contrast with the
several other Occupational Villages in California, which were, at that
very moment being tear-gassed. The general sentiment being: “This is quite
clearly the model. And the occupation most in tune with city needs.”

One councilman stated clearly, “I disagree with most of what you’re
saying. But you’ve clearly shown that this is an issue of free speech. So
if you need to sleep on our lawn… by all means… sleep on our lawn.”

Shortly after, a motion was brought to the council to grant license to the
occupiers to occupy the public space overnight citing the unusual form of
the movement. (Another first in council history.)

(...)

Read more: http://www.occupy-oc.org/tears-stream-as-city-council-u... /



Chilly bumps! This is Fabulous!
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 08:47 AM
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1. I'm thrilled for you, but which are you referring to - Irvine only or Orange Co? It is unclearl
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 09:10 AM
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9. It is unclear...
At LEAST Irvine. Not sure.... sorry
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 09:17 AM
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10. Thanks.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 12:18 PM
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21. Can the Irvine City Council speak for all of Orange County?
The group is called Occupy Orange County, but the ruling came from the Irvine City Council.
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Atypical Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 08:54 AM
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2. This is the way to do it.
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peace frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 08:54 AM
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3. Wonderful news!
Thanks for sharing.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 08:55 AM
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4. Does that work for the homeless too?
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AlecBGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 08:58 AM
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5. more of this please
One councilman stated clearly, “I disagree with most of what you’re
saying. But you’ve clearly shown that this is an issue of free speech. So
if you need to sleep on our lawn… by all means… sleep on our lawn.”


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justiceischeap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 09:28 AM
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11. It's their lawn too, Mr. Councilman. nt
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backtoblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 09:31 AM
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13. + 1
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SwampG8r Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 10:56 AM
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18. he said "our" lawn
that our includes all
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 09:35 AM
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14. Wow, it takes guts to publicly disagree that cheating is wrong.
:-)
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seacaves Donating Member (321 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 09:07 AM
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6. Whow. Wonderful. Thank you.
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 01:59 PM
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26. Ah... if you're interested.
I noticed you've been using 'whow'. Just so you know, the generally accepted form is 'whoa'. Not that it's a big hugh deal, but it's hard to tell if you're meaning 'wow' or 'whoa'. ;)
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Plucketeer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 09:08 AM
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7. This really IS heartening!
Let's hope this thinking "goes viral" with other cities. :kick:
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 09:10 AM
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8. I was there last week. This is great news.
I loved the people there on the lawn, and when we arrived a city employee went out of her way to give us directions to the lawn from the building, she heard us talking about the 99% and came back to show us a shortcut to the protest. They did the right thing, I will call today and praise them directly.
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barbtries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 09:31 AM
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12. in orange county no less.
very happy for this. more cities need to follow their lead.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 12:21 PM
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23. I just googled. I think Democrats hold a majority of the seats on the Irvine City Council, which
surprises me as Irvine is the birthplace of the Trinity Broadcasting Network, among many other things. And in spitting distance of Anaheim, home of DisneyLand.
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 09:39 AM
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15. Oh Hell Yes !!! Occupation IS a free speech issue. They got it right.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 09:42 AM
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16. Yes!
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 10:04 AM
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17. Wow! K&R nt
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 11:30 AM
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19. kick
:kick:
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 11:32 AM
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20. K&R!
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AsahinaKimi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 12:19 PM
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22. K&R
Good on it!
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 12:24 PM
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24. I believe that Democrats hold a majority of the seats on the Irvine City Council
(she typed proudly).
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arbusto_baboso Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 12:26 PM
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25. This happened behind the Orange Curtain?!?!?!?!?
Nice! Unexpected, but nice!
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Dont call me Shirley Donating Member (396 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 03:19 PM
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27. If money is free speech then tents are free speech!
Thank you OC City Council for recognizing this.
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BEZERKO Donating Member (564 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 03:27 PM
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28. It's usually the best practice to err on the side of free speech.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 03:53 PM
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29. The Orange Underground remains stalwart, lol. Freedom for the people
trapped behind the Orange Curtain looms.
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RoccoR5955 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 03:54 PM
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30. Sorry, my bad
Edited on Thu Oct-27-11 03:55 PM by RoccoR5955
looking at too many topics at once.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 03:57 PM
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31. Kicked and recommended.
Thanks for the thread, Why Syzygy.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 04:24 PM
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32. K & R !!!
:kick:
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blackspade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 04:31 PM
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33. Awesome!
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 04:34 PM
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34. K&R n/t
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 04:47 PM
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35. someone needs to show the fascists in Oakland the error of their ways and say why aren't you
protecting freedom of speech?


Get it here now, or one of a million other designs! http://www.zazzle.com/republicans_2012_keeping_millions...
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Bluestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 04:58 PM
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36. A little conclave of Liberals exist here in Irvine...
in the big red sea that is Orange County. Obama carried Irvine in 2008. Lots of liberal faculty members from UC-Irvine.
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demigoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 05:48 PM
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37. not just speech, political speech!!
political speech is inviolate, pure speech, not always.
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 06:03 PM
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38. great K&R
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 06:20 PM
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39. Turn about is fair play! We often email our anger - I think this is a
time we should email our thanks.
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99th_Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 10:43 PM
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40. This is brilliant ... I'm loving it .. esp that it's Orange County of all places.
A REAL AMERICAN ----> One councilman stated clearly, “I disagree with most of what you’re
saying. But you’ve clearly shown that this is an issue of free speech. So
if you need to sleep on our lawn… by all means… sleep on our lawn.”
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louslobbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 10:44 PM
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41. K&R n/t
Lou
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 11:25 PM
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42. How did I miss this? K&R
Edited on Thu Oct-27-11 11:26 PM by woo me with science
What a wonderful post.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 11:57 PM
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43. kr
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bloomington-lib Donating Member (513 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-11 05:01 AM
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44. if you need to sleep on our lawn… by all means… sleep on our lawn.
Glad to have his permission but it's the public sleeping on the publics lawn, not his lawn.
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Xicano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-11 05:29 AM
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45. Great news! But there's also a little bit of double talk there..
Great news about concluding its a form of free speech, therefore protected activity. But then on the other hand they issue out licenses. Rights don't need licenses, and licenses can be revoked.
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-11 03:37 PM
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46. I agree..
but, some of these people still need the 'security' of a connection to authority.
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-11 04:35 PM
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47. Kick nt
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-11 04:38 PM
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48. Too late to rec, but thank you for posting this.
I can understand the tears as it was a wonderful example of Democracy which so rarely see anymore.


:applause: for them, especially those who did not allow their disagreement with the protesters to interfere with their judgement. That takes a lot of strength of character.
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