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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 07:58 AM
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The Newest MSM Talking Point re OWS:
Edited on Thu Oct-27-11 07:58 AM by Le Taz Hot
It's costing municipalities thousands and thousands of dollars to police the protesters. Here's a thought, let the protesters police themselves and use your municipal police force to go out and catch bad guys.

Anyway, I've heard this one echoed via CNN, MSNBC, HLN and all the local stations. How quickly they get the memos and how efficiently they spread the propaganda. Goering would have been proud.
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 08:30 AM
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1. K&R.
And the whole "golly, the protesters were throwing bottles at the cops" without noting-- a few protesters were throwing bottles at the cops in full riot gear with shields-- which still did not warrant the chemical warfare and rubber bullets and batons.

And it is amazing how readily so many of us will accept the premise that if any of the protesters fought back with anything, that excuses massive police brutality.

I didn't think about that contrast until Lawrence O'Donnell interviewed one of the OWS protesters in Oakland. When he asked if they threw bottles, she pointed out quietly that yes they did, at police in full riot gear. And I've seen the full riot gear on lines of cops-- armor, helmets with face plate to protect them from the gases they use on protesters, and shields to deflect tossed objects. So I could picture what she was talking about.

I got mad at Ed Schultz buying into the MSM line about the protests "entering a new phase"-- no they aren't! They are still trying to remain nonviolent. It is the police that "entered a new phase" and I'm glad Laura Flanders was there to point that out.

If lines of police in full riot gear were not advancing to shut down the peaceful encampments, the municipalities would not be spending nearly as much as they are.

And we have seen right wing infiltrators brag about their exploits. Maybe it is those anti-OWS infiltrators that are "entering a new phase."



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safeinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 08:38 AM
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2. Cut taxes and lay off more cops.
Can come back to bite ya.
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rms013 Donating Member (105 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 04:21 PM
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14. Kinda
My daughter has been at the Oakland Occupy since it's inception. During the police riots we stayed connected through texts as I was watching the live camera feeds from news organizations. She did tell me some and I mean a few people threw plastic water bottles at the police but most of the flying water bottles were being tossed to people who got gassed and were trying to rinse their eyes out.
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 08:38 AM
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3. Yes, it is disgusting...
I work at home and have various channels on in the background all day.

Yesterday on CNBC, Maria Bartaromo and some "reporter" had cross talk about
the "one percent" that OWS is protesting. They discussed how the one percent
is not just bankers--it's small-business owners, Hollywood stars (hint, hint--lefties),
and even farmers.

In other words, we're so stupid--we're protesting the poor farmers in Iowa.

In other words, we're so stupid, we're protesting ourselves (lefty Hollywood actors).

Expect all kinds of lie-based memes out there. They can't stop OWS. Lies and propaganda are
all they have.

If you really want to puke out a lung--listen to right-wing radio. They're carrying the rancid
water for the corporatists who want OWS decimated with lies. Beck says OWS is anti-Semitic. He
spends hours on this. All of right-wing radio is united in positioning OWS as dirty hippie types,
criminals, Marxists and anti-Semitics. Right-wing radio says what the right-wing MSM cannot say.

They're attacking OWS at multiple angles--and it's all lies. Expect more of this. It's all they've got.
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 04:05 PM
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11. Maria Bartiromo's Jeopardy performance proved her to be an ignorant asshole.
Jaw-dropping ignorance.

On *CELEBRITY* Jeopardy yet!
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 04:29 PM
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16. The only reason she's there is Jack Welch had the hots for her.
Maria is Jack's girl, all the way.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 10:48 PM
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20. Funny, I own a small business and the 1%ers make about 1,000,000X
what I do.

I'm in the bottom 40%, that much I know, THANKS TO HOW THE 1%ERS WRECKED THE ECONOMY.
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 08:42 AM
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4. Occupy Tuscon has no police presence
I'd be interested in finding out if they have had any increase in costs because of the encampment.

If there is none it proves our side correct.
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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 08:47 AM
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5. Occupy Fresno has been peaceful as well.
The police will stroll through every now and again but everyone has been really careful about cleaning up after themselves. Though, admittedly, our groups are MUCH smaller in size, but goddes love 'em, they're diligent.
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 04:03 PM
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8. apparently Oakland's was too...OWS there even put down wooden boards to protect the grass
and it's not like the police in Oakland don't have real crime to deal with (see, "homicide, rate of")
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 11:17 AM
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6. They mainly need protection from brutal, violent cops! nt
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BR_Parkway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 03:58 PM
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7. If they'd have spent that money arresting bankers, we might not be at this
point
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 04:03 PM
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9. Yes, it's a very efficient wurlitzer that TPTB have in place...
Edited on Thu Oct-27-11 04:04 PM by redqueen
I'm also enjoying the "poor, poor, misunderstood billionaires" narrative.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 04:04 PM
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10. Well it is
But that's not the point.
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 04:08 PM
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12. Republicans pick and choose when they want big government and regulations
Libertarian principles change with the wind. Corporations can police themselves entirely. Movements of the people apparently can't.
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Magoo48 Donating Member (315 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 04:14 PM
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13. Isn't there any real crime going on in Oakland, Atlanta, really?
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 04:22 PM
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15. Maybe they ought to tax some billionaires.
Edited on Thu Oct-27-11 04:23 PM by Matariki
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 04:33 PM
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17. Saw it for myself last night on Fox 11 News at 10 p.m., following Glee,
here in Los Angeles.

How about using the municipal police force to go out and round up capitalists and expropriate some ill-gotten gains?
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MrsCorleone Donating Member (844 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 10:24 PM
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18. Heads are exploding all over RW radio!
Edited on Thu Oct-27-11 10:25 PM by MrsCorleone
Lots of outright lying and freaking out in efforts to discredit protestors.

OWS has hit the CorpWhores where it really hurts!

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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 10:27 PM
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19. Uh-huh. And do those same municipalities complain about policing sporting events?
Hmmm...


Hell, I went to Party City a couple of days ago and there was a local cop inside next to the checkouts.


Why???


Of course, he looked like 19 and fresh out of the Marines, so I'm assuming he got rookie duty or something, but still, Party City with taxpayer-funded security???
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Bjorn Against Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 11:06 PM
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21. I wonder if they will ever report how much the police spend patrolling corporate sponsored events
I bet it is a hell of a lot more than they spend on the Occupy protests. I have seen police provide security at a number of businesses, but I have never heard the media publicize the cost of that.
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