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RandySF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 12:18 AM
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SF elected officials at Occupy site
Public Defender Jeff Adachi, Board President David Chiu and State Senator Leland Yee are at Justin Herman Plaza hoping to stave off a potential police raid. Labor leaders and members of the clergy are also there.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 12:21 AM
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1. Do you feel the change in the atmosphere?
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RandySF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 12:23 AM
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6. SFPD is not Oakland PD to begin with.
As much as we gripe, SFPD does not have the same brutal track record as Oakland PD. I think our police command is also better experienced at working with these kinds of demonstrations.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 12:26 AM
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8. Yes but beyond police department culture
And that matters. It's more the we fucked and the peasants are revolting. This is a real fire.

Was down at my local today and cops were present en force but...mostly relaxed.
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occupyeverywhere Donating Member (324 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 12:43 AM
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10. There are so many jurisdictional police depts in DC
Edited on Thu Oct-27-11 12:44 AM by occupyeverywhere
DC Metro was awesome, no problems. Capitol Hill PD, not so much.

I'm sorry, that's U.S. Capitol Police.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 01:17 AM
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21. Ingleside is full of thuggery and so is Mission.
Plus, one of Mojo's sources told them OPD may be assisting SFPD tonight. I'd go on tv for Taraval Station or Park Station but there are plenty of thugs at SFPD.
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 12:21 AM
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2. I just got back. Quite a few people out supporting. I think the events in Oakland
has rallied the population to protect SF Occupiers.

Live stream here:

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sflpov#utm_campaign=t.co&...
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 12:25 AM
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7. From the stream it looks like mayoral candidate Avalos is sitting down prepared to get
Edited on Thu Oct-27-11 12:25 AM by Luminous Animal
arrested protecting the camp.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 12:44 AM
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12. Now that will put a wrinkle.
We have definitely crossed a line.
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 12:53 AM
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13. Avalos has been there from the beginning.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 12:58 AM
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15. Still when that happens it means some in ruling elites
Are with people.
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 01:10 AM
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18. Haha! Avalos is not a "ruling elite"! Oh that is hilarious.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 01:13 AM
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19. So he is not a member of the council?
His bio says otherwise.
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 01:26 AM
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23. Yes. He is a city supervisor but you'd have to know the SF political system to
understand the ruling elite means in this city. There are, indeed, political machines and the candidates that they champion and (if they win) become the "ruling elite". Fortunately, we have ranked choice voting and district elections so the ruling elite's power in the supervisors chambers has waned. Many of the supervisors are, in fact, citizen representatives. This may change in light of the Citizen United decision. San Francisco maintains campaign limits and matching funding despite the threat of a Supreme Court challenge by the ruling elite.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 01:33 AM
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24. You mean like the rest of California.
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 01:39 AM
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25. What the fuck are you talking about. You response clearly shows your ignorance of SF politics.
I know that it is difficult for you to reign in your deluded self-importance but I suggest, in this situation, you put a plug in it.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 01:40 AM
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26. Whatever
Deluded, nope no personal attack there either.

Have a good one...no use in talking to ya.
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 09:37 AM
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27. SF pols are no different and no better than pols anywhere else
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occupyeverywhere Donating Member (324 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 12:22 AM
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3. Yes please.
More of this.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 12:23 AM
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4. this moment calls for a song
I feel like singing:

Lyrics to People Get Ready :

People get ready, there's a train comin'
You don't need no baggage, you just get on board
All you need is faith to hear the diesels hummin'
You don't need no ticket you just thank the lord

People get ready, there's a train to Jordan
Picking up passengers coast to coast
Faith is the key, open the doors and board them
There's hope for all among those loved the most
There ain't no room for the hopeless sinner whom would hurt all mankind
Just to save his own
Have pity on those whose chances grow thinner
For there is no hiding place against the kingdoms throne

People get ready there's a train comin'
You don't need no baggage, just get on board
All you need is faith to hear the diesels hummin'
You don't need no ticket, just thank the lord
People get ready, there's a train comin'
You don't need no baggage, you just get on board
All you need is faith to hear the diesels hummin'
You don't need no ticket you just thank the lord

People get ready, there's a train to Jordan
Picking up passengers coast to coast
Faith is the key, open the doors and board them
There's hope for all among those loved the most
There ain't no room for the hopeless sinner whom would hurt all mankind
Just to save his own
Have pity on those whose chances grow thinner
For there is no hiding place against the kingdoms throne

People get ready there's a train comin'
You don't need no baggage, just get on board
All you need is faith to hear the diesels hummin'
You don't need no ticket, just thank the lord

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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 12:23 AM
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5. Finally someone looking out for the people. Good for them
for doing this, if that is what they are doing.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 01:20 AM
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22. This is confirmed. Dr. Yee tweeted he was talking to a PD commander
and Avalos has been very active in advocating for the rights of the occupation. There are some really good people in politics in San Francisco.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-11 01:09 AM
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28. Great, I am glad to hear that. They were definitely
Edited on Fri Oct-28-11 01:11 AM by sabrina 1
expecting a raid and when it didn't happen, they were wondering why. Seems like this was the reason why. Good for them, I bet after seeing what happened in Oakland, they are glad they did not go ahead with it.
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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 12:39 AM
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9. The cops in Atlanta arrested a State Senator last night that was at Occupy Atlanta. n/t
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 12:44 AM
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11. Oh that's a good one
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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 12:53 AM
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14. Here's a link

http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/united-states/police-ar...

p.s. I know there are many more links that I saw earlier today but I don't remember where they were.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 12:59 AM
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17. Elites are not united.
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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 12:58 AM
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16. Here's a link with good info ...
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 01:13 AM
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20. During the WTO, Seattle City Council members and a republican County Council member
got hit with tear gas and rubber bullets.
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