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Modern_Matthew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 11:16 PM
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UNCONFIRMED (starting to look false)... Twitter reports of the NATIONAL GUARD in OAKLAND!
Edited on Wed Oct-26-11 11:42 PM by Modern_Matthew
What could this mean?!

"National Guard is here at #occupyoakland getting ready. #StandwithOakland if you can tonight. #occupy"
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 11:17 PM
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1. Also police converging on protesters in San Francisco - live link
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Arctic Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 11:19 PM
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2. Photos?
If they are there, the governer sent them.

Hmm.
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Modern_Matthew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 11:20 PM
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3. I'm sure someone will take them soon. I am monitoring Twitter quite heavily. nt
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 11:24 PM
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10. Mayor asked before governor sent, though, I suspect.
I don't think the Governor usurped the mayor's authority; he responded to a request, if the report is true.
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 11:24 PM
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11. Jerry Brown was the mayor of Oakland. And now governor. I always liked him. But now I wonder.
Edited on Wed Oct-26-11 11:25 PM by Gregorian
Oops. Posted in the wrong location. Oh hell.
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 11:52 PM
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28. Brown's fingerprints all over it, even without the National Guard

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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 11:20 PM
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4. Soldiers are not trained to be police. If true, this is a dangerous escalation.nt
PB
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 11:23 PM
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8. Look at this on twitter
if they are for the reason I think they might... OPD is under FEDERAL Observation for civil rights violations

MotherJones Mother Jones
MT @garonsen: Quan: "I want to have some time...to open up the dialogue." Says police presence will be low next couple days. #occupyoakland
4 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 11:27 PM
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13. It entirely depends on what they're kitted out with, Nadine. Quan can go fuck herself.
From everything I've read, she is responsible for this grotesque misuse of the Oakland police force.

If this is true, we'll both get a much clearer answer when we see what these soldiers are armed with, if anything. I just finished watching this this video of the '68 DNC riots and right in the opening of the video you can see a light machine gun set up on the ground as well as numerous armed and bayonetted troops. Obviously, times have changed, but if these boots are on the ground it's going to tell me a lot to see what they're armed with.

PB
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 11:29 PM
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15. I am still looking for the at they are here
on the twitter
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 11:31 PM
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17. I would just about guarantee you they will not be setting up tonight, if they are.
Unless they arrived much earlier in the day. That's just my hunch.

PB
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 11:31 PM
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16. She's got nearly 10,000 posts on her Facebook page...
Edited on Wed Oct-26-11 11:33 PM by CoffeeCat
...and every single one of them totally lambastes her, from here to kingdom come.

http://www.facebook.com/MayorJeanQuan?ref=ts
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 11:33 PM
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19. Plus twitter
<------- Yes I am proud of what I told her. Not nice.
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 11:44 PM
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26. Yeah, I told her a thing or two...
...on her FB page. My post had 17 "likes" so I think I did ok.

That mayor must be terrified by now. Her response to this crisis was ludicrious and insulting.
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 11:33 PM
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20. Did you catch Olbermann's piece on her tonight? (VIDEO)
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 12:42 AM
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31. I hope this is the reason...
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 11:21 PM
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5. National Guard?
Doesn't the governor have to call them?
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 11:25 PM
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12. And the mayor would ask for them before he sent them along. NT
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 11:22 PM
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6. hmmm it might be something else
MotherJones Mother Jones
MT @garonsen: Quan: "I want to have some time...to open up the dialogue." Says police presence will be low next couple days. #occupyoakland
4 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
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Imajika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 11:23 PM
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7. These twitter reports are often entirely wrong...
In this case, it is a little difficult to believe the national guard has been called. This protest does not require the military. Oakland has plenty of police and can easily get help from the surrounding area.

I suppose it is possible, but I think that would require Governor Brown calling them in and I just can't seem him doing that at this point.
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Modern_Matthew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 11:36 PM
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23. It's sad that Twitter is all we have to stay informed. :-\ nt
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 11:23 PM
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9. Link for all the livestreams here:
http://occupystream.com /


Someone told that the National Guard is there to "assist"
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Downwinder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 11:34 PM
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21. Protecting the Marines?
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 11:28 PM
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14. Is Mayor Daley back in charge of this operation?
Edited on Thu Oct-27-11 12:03 AM by leveymg

"Gentlemen, get the thing straight once and for all the policeman isn't there to create disorder, the policeman is there to preserve disorder." - Mayor Richard J Daley.( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_J._Daley )


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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 11:32 PM
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18. Ok if the guard is coming for a fight
they are in for a fight... holy shiite!

KeithOlbermann Keith Olbermann
Some Marines have spontaneously joined the #OWS solidarity march with #OccupyOakland and saying #ScottOlsen is "One of our own"
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MedleyMisty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 11:36 PM
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22. I've only seen that tweet so far
After following the Libyan revolution on Twitter for months, I learned about rumors and waiting for confirmation and developed a sense of what stuff sounds too dramatic to be true. I'm taking it as unconfirmed until I see more tweets about it.

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 11:53 PM
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30. Do you have the link?
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 11:36 PM
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24. Holy cow... they did gore something, and pour gas on fire
lorikodama Lori Kodama
RT @occupyoakland: Egyptian revolutionaries announce march in #Tahrir on Oct 28th in solidarity with #OccupyOakland
5 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 11:40 PM
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25. Arent they at the direction of the governor? nm
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 11:47 PM
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27. Unless they were federalized
OPD is under Federal control for yes, civil rights violations. The federal troops they'd used in the past, like the 101st are busy right at the moment
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 11:52 PM
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29. Well, here... no, not guard, cops
moefeministdog aimee lol
police are here, wish us luck. #occupyoakland
2 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

SeanforOakland Sean Sullivan
& then a friend gets robbed at 14th & Madison so no police literally results in no police in DTO #OccupyOakland
1 minute ago

MadSciKat MadSciKat
RT @Org9: RT @sketchesof: I'm at #occupyoakland and I don't see national guard. Super peaceful and organized.
1 minute ago

Still take with grain of salt
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trueblue2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 12:49 AM
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33. my comment
you are a horrible, ghastly woman. YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELF. SHAME ON YOU FOR THIS VIOLENT ACT. I believe you'll regret calling out the pigs. I'm a baby boomer, remember the Vietnam war protests and Kent State!!!
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 12:54 AM
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34. I am just reporting the news ma'am
Take your spleen somewhere else.
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trueblue2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 01:40 AM
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37. what the world is wrong with you? . that is what i put on the Mayors FB page!!!!
Edited on Thu Oct-27-11 01:41 AM by trueblue2007
lololol, i was not directing that at you or anyone here.
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cwydro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 03:13 AM
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38. nadin is a bit full of herself.
Don't take it personally.
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dana_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 12:48 AM
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32. I was there - just got home
no National Guard, no police except for the CHP nearby and four helicopters overhead. Now the protestors are on the march.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 12:54 AM
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35. Good
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 01:29 AM
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36. That would mean the state and Jerry Brown were involved.
I'd like to hear what some of the Oakland protestors have to say about the health and safety conditions at the protest site.

The LA site is very crowded, but those camping out are making an obvious effort to keep it presentable and clean.
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brettdale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 03:19 AM
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39. Dont believe it
Remember Obama is President not Bush.

Speaking of Bush, how would of he handled the Occupy protests?
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cwydro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 03:21 AM
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40. Pretty sure state government calls out the Guard. nt
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