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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 07:49 PM
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Picture of the #9 LEAD SHOT "Beanbag" that was shot at the protesters!
Edited on Wed Oct-26-11 08:07 PM by in_cog_ni_to
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/blogpost/post/occupy-oakland-did-police-use-flashbangs-and-rubber-bullets-on-protesters/2011/10/26/gIQAL4pOJM_blog.html

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Description

The bean bag round consists of a small fabric “pillow” filled with #9 lead shot weighing about 40 grams (1.4 oz). It is fired from a normal 12-gauge shotgun. When fired, the bag is expelled at around 70 to 90 metres per second (230 to 300 ft/s); it spreads out in flight and distributes its impact over about 6 square centimetres (1 sq in) of the target. It is designed to deliver a blow that will cause minimum long-term trauma and no penetration but will result in a muscle spasm or other reaction to briefly render a violent suspect immobile. The shotgun round is inaccurate over about 6 metres (20 ft) and has a maximum range of around 20 metres (70 ft). Changes to the bean bag round since its inception in the early 1970s have included a velocity reduction from 120 to 90 metres per second (400 to 300 ft/s)<1> as well as a shift from a square shape to a more rounded sock-shaped projectile.<1>

Shotguns dedicated to being used for bean bag rounds are often visibly modified with either yellow or green markings, or bright orange stocks and stops, to reduce the possibility that a user might inadvertently load lethal munitions into the weapon.
Use

Bean bag rounds are used when a person is a danger to themself or others, but is not a direct threat in such a manner that deadly force would be appropriate. The round is intended to disable or stun the person without killing them. Fifty percent of cases are when the assailant has a bladed weapon. Nearly half of the uses also involve a suicidal and armed individual.
Dangers

A bean bag round can severely injure or kill in a wide variety of ways. They have caused around a death a year since their introduction in the U.S.<2> A round can hit the chest, break the ribs and send the broken ribs into the heart. A shot to the head can break the nose, crush the larynx or even break the neck or skull of the subject. This is why many officers are taught to aim for the extremities when using a bean bag round. A strike in the abdominal area can cause internal bleeding or strike the solar plexus which can disrupt breathing or heartbeat, but such a hit is generally safer than most other areas as well as presenting a larger target than an extremity. Fatalities are occasionally the result of mistaking other shotgun rounds for bean bags.<2>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bean_bag_round

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itsallhappening Donating Member (578 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 07:51 PM
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1. Almost looks like a baby octopus.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 07:52 PM
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3. Right. Except it's filled with lead and fired from a shotgun.
:(
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laconicsax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 08:01 PM
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7. Maybe octopi should be too...
:shrug:
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Kennah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 08:25 PM
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11. Squid launcher! Oh yeah!
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ProdigalJunkMail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 08:37 PM
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15. hahahaha... n/t
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Cid_B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 09:16 PM
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24. Been done...
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 08:29 PM
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14. i knew someone who protested in Oakland a while back --got hit with 1 of those in the face
pretty close to his eye.

bloody and bruised.

and i repeat: they shot him in the face with that. near his eyes.

Oakland PD. :wtf:
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 07:52 PM
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2. more like a sock full of quarters than a Beanie Baby
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 07:54 PM
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4. Hooray! Wall Street is a danger to itself and others! We get to bean-bag Wall Street!
:woohoo:
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rgbecker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 07:59 PM
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5. See a problem Here? Inaccurate over 20 feet vs. Officers taught to aim for Extremities!
Extremities; as in hands and feet. Good luck with that.
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Kennah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 09:36 PM
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16. Oops. Was that your dick, or eye? My bad.
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justiceischeap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 07:59 PM
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6. Actual photo
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 08:02 PM
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10. Thank you. I couldn't post the pic...for some reason.
How do you do that? :)
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justiceischeap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 08:53 AM
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21. If you look at the link you provided for the photo
there's, if I recall, a question mark + text after the .jpg. I just deleted everything after .jpg
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 08:28 PM
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13. Thank you for posting this. n/t
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rgbecker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 09:12 PM
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23. Sock Puppet?
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 08:01 PM
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8. Lovely.
You have to give it to us Westerners, we are the absolute best in the world at killing, maiming, or simply "immobilizing" other people.

:shrug:

-Laelth
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Kennah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 08:26 PM
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12. Heh, heh, heh. That's "less than lethal" munitions.
Umm, I think I'm only allowed half a sarcasm tag on this one.
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 04:56 AM
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17. Quite right. n/t
-Laelth
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Abin Sur Donating Member (647 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 09:11 AM
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22. At one point I had a Tru-Flite 37mm "less than lethal" launcher in my collection.


it was manufactured in the 1930's. Perfectly legal to own, I also had a couple of dozen tear gas rounds for it (CS and CN).

What was *not* legal were these 37mm beanbag or rubber bullet rounds:





While these round are legal to own, it's not legal to own them if you also own a compatible launcher at the same time, so I had to stick to tear gas and flares.

I was eventually able to more than double my money on the launcher & ammo. It was an offer I couldn't refuse...

:)
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 08:01 PM
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9. They can fire it at my belly while you people stand behind me
Maybe I won't be walking so good for a half-hour afterwards, but at least I'll have taken one for the team.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 05:02 AM
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18. recommend
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 05:11 AM
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20. Thanks
:hi:
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